My thoughts and fears...

[WDRacing]

The slope towards Socialism is a very steep and dangerous one. At least it is if you cherish free will and the chance to pursue happiness as you see fit. If you don’t care about giving up control of your life and are fine with someone else making decisions for you, Socialism probably sounds pretty good.

The dangerous thing about Socialism is the appeal it has for so many people. When your Nation has a large group of people dependant on “assistance” the appeal for a Socialist type of Gov is very strong. Have you looked at how many programs we have in place to assist those that “cannot” help themselves. Some of these programs are severely abused without any type of accountability or control. These programs hemorrhage money that comes from every citizens taxes. Yet there concern and no talk of fixing the programs we already have, only developing more and more programs. These programs are designed to “help” people. Well helping people that actually require it is far different from handing out money just because people can qualify for it. Notice I said “can” qualify for it. I truly believe that we have far exceeded providing assistance and have gone into what I call Enable Mode. We have been creating and supporting assistance addiction by enabling people to give up for so long that people have lost their will to succeed.

You have to ask yourself a few simple questions:

Who is easier to control, a people that are making their own decisions and standing firmly on their own two feet or a people so used to being spoon fed everything that they have actually lost the will to better themselves?

Who is easier to control, a people in fear or a proud and self-reliant people?

Who is easier to control, a people that can vote or a people lead by others that vote for them?

We are being slowly reprogrammed on all levels. Some of us have become addicted to handouts and programs to the point of total reliance. Our children are taught that we are all winners no matter what and we are all equal, no one is better then anyone else. We I’m sorry, we are not all created equal, that is just simple fact. That’s not to say some people are just wastes of skin, but rather a realistic statement meaning that some of us are just smarter, stronger, better, faster in then others.

A Socialist Gov is the perfect means for total power and total control. People don't even realize it's happening because it's disguised as reform or assistance and it comes wrapped with a big bow and lots of mail in rebates. People will sell their souls for the promise of something better. People that choose the easy path are also the easiest to control because they are 100% predictable. That is how we reached the current state we are in. We have become so reliant on the Gov that we have totally lost who we are as a people. We are certainly not the same people that told England to go F themselves. We don’t even understand the phrase “taxation without representation” anymore.

This has been a long time in the making and it is not just the current administration. The people have been shaped and molded to become almost completely dependant. This takes years of manipulation through every means possible. Be it free credit to welfare, we have become fat and addicted. What we have now is the culmination of pour governing that goes all the way back to the very first lobbyist. How can you have a Gov “for the people by the people” when companies give you money based on which way you vote or what laws you support? We have finally reached the point where the Gov feels it can step in and seize total control through manipulation and enablization. The list of freedoms we have surrendered is a long one. Yet we go about our daily lives without a care in the world. How did we become so complacent? How did this become the norm?

The real problem is that this will absolutely never get better. In fact it will only compound itself until what we have is a Gov that mirrors all those movies that are based in the future where everything is the Gov and all our freedoms have been totally dissolved. Where laws and rules have been made to strictly govern the herd so as to not require independent thought. What reason does the Gov have to change? Why would they want to reduce their own power and influence?

I fear that we the people have totally lost control. My thoughts on how something like this is resolved will make me out as an extremist by the Gov and I could be detained indefinitely according to something the last administration installed under the guise of protection and safety from the bad people that are waiting behind every corner to kill us.

Call me a conspiracy theorist. Call me a nut bag. I care not because the truth is already written in the years past. Have a look, educate yourselves. Find out something on your own instead of being educated by the media. We're on a course that ends badly and the only way for actual change is to derail the train and fire everyone working for the railroad.

WD

[audtatious]

[WDRacing]

I could have gone on and on with examples of other Gov related schemes and failures, but it's hard sometimes to keep a train of thought going well enough to convey your actual feelings.

Suffice it to say, I have a deep routed fear that we're turning into a unrecoverable Socialist society.

When free enterprise is attacked and made to look like the enemy, things have gone bad.

[audtatious]

The growing pandemic of entitlement will be the end of the USofA

[themadscientist]

At some point the end-game will play out and those of us who know the plan will fight. I comfort myself with the Jeffersonian idea of the tree of liberty being periodically fertilized with the blood of patriots and tyrants. By that I mean that liberty and freedom is a human's natural state. There will be times when it's tramped down: all the ancient empires, the dark ages, various 20th century dictatorships, communism, our evolving nannystate, but in every example humanity could not be kept from the natural state of liberty. It may never come in our short lives, we may be the ones that are spoken of in a later golden age, those exterminated or cut down in the struggle, but a later generation will know freedom again. It's the best I can do to keep my head up when confronted with the realities of where the world is headed. I'll do my best to change the system while playing by rules they set, but at some point I, and those like me who believe in liberty first and arbitrary government will push back regardless of the "rules" set down by those that seek to secure power for themselves and their confederates.

[srellim234]

WD- I understand and share a lot of your frustration, but your statement that "we the people" have lost control is incorrect. The ability to control through the ballot box is there, but the majority of the "we the people" choose not to use it. The mere fact that you use the ballot box puts you in a minority any more in this country and even among that minority you are even a smaller minority since the majority of those voters are supporting what is going on.

An insurgency against a constitutionally elected government in this country only lends itself to failure, whether it be now or the fact that any constitution you would choose to set would be worthless simply by virtue of your actions that got you in as a minority ruler.

This country probably won't wake up until it's too late, but we must respect our constitution and the laws created since. It has to be fixed from within.

Not wasting your vote on a Democrat or a Republican and working to reform the laws that allow gerrymandering is a start.

[seang]

WD, that was an awesome writeup. The only thing I could have asked more for is details regarding the freedoms we have surrendered, but that's my ineducation talking.

I did not pen these next words, but they are brilliant. Unless someone hunts down who wrote this, the author will remain anonymous because I feel that if people knew who wrote it, they might dismiss it. Such a dismissal would be a fallacy of relevance on their part. -SeanG-

"People tend to assume that because a revolution involves a much greater change than reform does, it is more difficult to bring about than reform is. Actually, under certain circumstances revolution is much easier than reform. The reason is that a revolutionary movement can inspire an intensity of commitment that a reform movement cannot inspire. A reform movement merely offers to solve a particular social problem. A revolutionary movement offers to solve all problems at one stroke and create a whole new world; it provides the kind of ideal for which people will take great risks and make great sacrifices."

"Reform is always restrained by the fear of painful consequences if changes go too far. But once a revolutionary fever has taken hold of a society, people are willing to undergo unlimited hardships for the sake of their revolution."

"The big problem is that people don't believe a revolution is possible, and it is not possible precisely because they do not believe it is possible."


Modified by seang at 8:05 PM 1/10/2010

[WDRacing]

Unless someone hunts down who wrote this, the author will remain anonymous.

Theodore Kaczynski

http://xahlee.org/p/um/um-s19.html

[BusyBadger]

your statement that "we the people" have lost control is incorrect

This country probably won't wake up until it's too late

These two statements appear somewhat...contradictory.

[srellim234]

Not at all. The majority of the people who actually vote, together with the people who don't vote, are going to continue to support what is going on until the situation is unsustainable and/or intolerable (many of us in the minority would contend that it already passed that threshold). At that point there will be no one left to pay the bills for the programs instituted and too many civil rights will have been deferred to government control.

When that majority realizes what they have "accomplished" it will be too late to bring it back to a reasonable level.

[audtatious]

What happens when you can't believe the votes? The Dems screamed and screamed about Bush "fixing" his elections, all the way to the Supreme Court. Acorn and others have stepped up their efforts to beg, steal and cheat to get their preferred representative in office. Now we have Dems wanting to mandate that all citizens are automatically registered to vote which can easily lead to more tampering (on both sides, though it primarily seems to be the far-left who commit fraud from a voting perspective). Seems for every proper vote there is 1.5-2 coerced or "paid for" votes to contend with. The majority dislike the direction things are going with today's Gov but nobody is listening.

[srellim234]

Yet people continue to vote for Republicans and Democrats. That includes most people on this forum who talk a good game but aren't willing to stand up to the two major parties in the voting booth. Instead they continue to support the current trend to plutarchy by both parties.

A majority of the people need to have the guts to say no to both and get the country back in the control of the citizens in a peaceful manner.

[audtatious]

From a Presidency perspective, I agree. From a state perspective, I sure won't be voting based upon Rep or Dem but upon what they stand for. Of course, that's hard to say in many cases as politicians talk out of each side of their mouth.

[audtatious]

From a vote perspective it seems the scuttlebutt is should the Massachusetts people elect a Republican to fill Kennedy's Senate position (held by a temp Dem today that was put in place by the Dem Gov regardless of the bill that Kennedy helped put in place to stop such from happening) he won't be fully seated for up to 30 days. This stall tactic is to keep the temporary Dem in office until after the HC votes so the plan is to not seat him until after the State of the Union in February. The special election will be taking place on Jan 19th. Reasoning?

“Because it’s a federal election,” spokesman Brian McNiff said. “We’d have to wait 10 days for absentee and military ballots to come in.”...Even with that they have plans to continue the stall to ensure they don't lose their precious vote.

Of course, the above didn't stop Rep. Niki Tsongas (D) from being sworn in two days after that election was completed in 2008 and there were quite a few others who were seated the next day.

The Dems in control (out of control) have no respect for the people and simply want to press forth their power grab.

[AZhitman]

From a vote perspective it seems the scuttlebutt is should the Massachusetts people elect a Republican to fill Kennedy's Senate position (held by a temp Dem today that was put in place by the Dem Gov regardless of the bill that Kennedy helped put in place to stop such from happening) he won't be fully seated for up to 30 days. This stall tactic is to keep the temporary Dem in office until after the HC votes so the plan is to not seat him until after the State of the Union in February. The special election will be taking place on Jan 19th. Reasoning?

“Because it’s a federal election,” spokesman Brian McNiff said. “We’d have to wait 10 days for absentee and military ballots to come in.”...Even with that they have plans to continue the stall to ensure they don't lose their precious vote.

Of course, the above didn't stop Rep. Niki Tsongas (D) from being sworn in two days after that election was completed in 2008 and there were quite a few others who were seated the next day.

The Dems in control (out of control) have no respect for the people and simply want to press forth their power grab.

^ THAT is just plain disgusting. How can anyone on the Left stand in defense of such a disparity in treatment?

I'm all eyes if someone smart wants to educate me. I won't hold my breath.

[audtatious]

Same as how Obama supporters can easily overlook him breaking the majority of his promises.