My temporary plans if I get a J30

[#1 Sailor Scout]

This is a temporary plan for when & if I get a J30. Let me know what you guys think. I'm open to any suggestions.

Project VIP Sleeper

Note: This project may take @ least 2-3 years until it is completed.

I. SubjectA. 1992-1997 Infiniti J30 or J30t (“t” denotes that it is the “Touring Edition”)B. Engine size, type, & code: 3.0L DOHC V6 (VG30DE)C. Factory rated horsepower (stock): 210D. Factory rated torque (stock): 193E. Factory rated curb weight: 3527 lbsF. Type of transmission: 4-speed automaticG. Maximum RPM (revolutions per minute): 9K RPMH. Engine redline: 7K-9K RPMI. 3 areas of focus: PERFORMANCE, EXTERIOR, INTERIOR

II. PERFORMANCE UPGRADESA. Remove factory airbox & paper filter, then install K&N cone filter (estimated 3-5 HP gain & 2-3 lb-ft torque gain)B. Remove factory exhaust system (from catalytic converter back), then install custom 2.5” piping with (2) mid-section mufflers (Magnaflow, Borla, or Flowmaster) & custom dual tip @ rear of car with rear muffler removed (estimated 5 HP gain & 3 lb-ft torque gain)C. Install NX nitrous kit (no more than 50 shot). Estimated 50 HP gain; torque is unknown. This upgrade is optional.

III. EXTERIOR UPGRADESA. Remove dents & dings if needed. Also, re-paint body black or green if needed.B. Purchase & install 18” chrome rims with low-profile tires. Rims are to be 5-spoke if possible. Keep stock 15” rims in case one or more of the aftermarkets are damaged.C. Remove stock headlight bulbs & replace with aftermarket high-powered bulbs.D. Install an undercar neon/LED light kit.E. Convert rear doors to 180 degree suicide doors. This upgrade is optional.F. Install exterior decorative vinyl on top of paint in door area. This upgrade is optional.G. Install window tint to darkest limit allowed by law enforcement. This upgrade is optional.

IV. INTERIOR UPGRADESA. Get entire interior detailed.B. Remove factory stereo & install mid-power aftermarket stereo w/backlight matching the color of the interior & exterior. (Sony XPlod, Kenwood, Pioneer, JVC) Power output of stereo must be @ least 160 watts peak, must have AM/FM/CD functions with MP3/WMA playback (auxiliary input/IPod connection optional), must have preouts for amplifier(s) and subwoofer(s), & must have clean look after install in dash.C. Remove factory 5x7” speakers (front doors) & factory ¾”-1” tweeter (A-pillar on front doors) & replace with aftermarket tweeters & 2 or 3-way speakers. Speakers must be @ least rated 160 watts peak; tweeters @ least 50 watts peak. (Kenwood, Pioneer, Kicker, or Infinity)D. Remove factory 6x9 speakers (rear deck) & replace with aftermarket 2 or 3-way speakers. Same requirements as for Part C.E. Install (1) amplifier in trunk of car with (1) pair of 12” subwoofers. Power output of amp must be @ least 300 watts peak & rating of subs must be @ least 300 watts peak. (Kicker, Pioneer, Rockford Fosgate)F. Install Dynamat in trunk so rattle is @ least kept to a minimum if not eliminated.G. Install neon tubes in floorwells (2 front, 1 rear) & in the trunk (optional). Make sure color matches the interior & exterior. (Optx, Street Glow, Pilot)H. Remove factory dome lights & replace with aftermarket color-matching dome lights. Follow the same rules as with the neon lights.I. Install aftermarket gauges (air/fuel ratio, nitrous [optional], oil pressure, voltmeter, & shift light [optional]). Use pillar pods, steering wheel columns, & any other empty space in the dash area if possible.

V. Price estimatesA. Price of vehicle: $5,000B. Price of cone filter (K&N): $90C. Price of exhaust1. Mufflers: $1802. Tip: $803. Custom welding & enlarging of pipe: $200D. NX Nitrous Express Import Kit: $1,100 (optional)E. Body work (exterior): $1,000 (if needed)F. 18” chrome rims w/low profile tires: $1,500 (for set)G. 6000K high-power Xenon lights: $600H. Undercar neon kit: $400I. Suicide doors w/shave: $5,000 (optional)J. Tint job: $200K. Interior detail: $100L. Aftermarket head unit for stereo: $300M. Aftermarket speakers1. A-Pillar tweeters: $302. Front speakers: $1503. Rear deck: $150N. Amplifier: $400 (includes wiring kit)O. Subwoofers: $400 (includes box & wires)P. Dynamat: $50Q. Interior neon tubes: $120 (set; 2 front, 1 rear)R. Aftermarket dome lights: $40S. Aftermarket gauges: $300 (including gauge pod)T. ESTIMATED TOTAL (without optional parts): $10,290 plus tax, installation fees, etc.U. ESTIMATED TOTAL (with optional parts): $17, 390 plus tax, installation fees, etc.

[kbflip02]

This is a temporary plan for when & if I get a J30. Let me know what you guys think. I'm open to any suggestions.

Project VIP Sleeper

Note: This project may take @ least 2-3 years until it is completed.

I. SubjectA. 1992-1997 Infiniti J30 or J30t (“t” denotes that it is the “Touring Edition”)B. Engine size, type, & code: 3.0L DOHC V6 (VG30DE)C. Factory rated horsepower (stock): 210D. Factory rated torque (stock): 193E. Factory rated curb weight: 3527 lbsF. Type of transmission: 4-speed automaticG. Maximum RPM (revolutions per minute): 9K RPMH. Engine redline: 7K-9K RPMI. 3 areas of focus: PERFORMANCE, EXTERIOR, INTERIOR

II. PERFORMANCE UPGRADESA. Remove factory airbox & paper filter, then install K&N cone filter (estimated 3-5 HP gain & 2-3 lb-ft torque gain)B. Remove factory exhaust system (from catalytic converter back), then install custom 2.5” piping with (2) mid-section mufflers (Magnaflow, Borla, or Flowmaster) & custom dual tip @ rear of car with rear muffler removed (estimated 5 HP gain & 3 lb-ft torque gain)C. Install NX nitrous kit (no more than 50 shot). Estimated 50 HP gain; torque is unknown. This upgrade is optional.

III. EXTERIOR UPGRADESA. Remove dents & dings if needed. Also, re-paint body black or green if needed.B. Purchase & install 18” chrome rims with low-profile tires. Rims are to be 5-spoke if possible. Keep stock 15” rims in case one or more of the aftermarkets are damaged.C. Remove stock headlight bulbs & replace with aftermarket high-powered bulbs.D. Install an undercar neon/LED light kit.E. Convert rear doors to 180 degree suicide doors. This upgrade is optional.F. Install exterior decorative vinyl on top of paint in door area. This upgrade is optional.G. Install window tint to darkest limit allowed by law enforcement. This upgrade is optional.

IV. INTERIOR UPGRADESA. Get entire interior detailed.B. Remove factory stereo & install mid-power aftermarket stereo w/backlight matching the color of the interior & exterior. (Sony XPlod, Kenwood, Pioneer, JVC) Power output of stereo must be @ least 160 watts peak, must have AM/FM/CD functions with MP3/WMA playback (auxiliary input/IPod connection optional), must have preouts for amplifier(s) and subwoofer(s), & must have clean look after install in dash.C. Remove factory 5x7” speakers (front doors) & factory ¾”-1” tweeter (A-pillar on front doors) & replace with aftermarket tweeters & 2 or 3-way speakers. Speakers must be @ least rated 160 watts peak; tweeters @ least 50 watts peak. (Kenwood, Pioneer, Kicker, or Infinity)D. Remove factory 6x9 speakers (rear deck) & replace with aftermarket 2 or 3-way speakers. Same requirements as for Part C.E. Install (1) amplifier in trunk of car with (1) pair of 12” subwoofers. Power output of amp must be @ least 300 watts peak & rating of subs must be @ least 300 watts peak. (Kicker, Pioneer, Rockford Fosgate)F. Install Dynamat in trunk so rattle is @ least kept to a minimum if not eliminated.G. Install neon tubes in floorwells (2 front, 1 rear) & in the trunk (optional). Make sure color matches the interior & exterior. (Optx, Street Glow, Pilot)H. Remove factory dome lights & replace with aftermarket color-matching dome lights. Follow the same rules as with the neon lights.I. Install aftermarket gauges (air/fuel ratio, nitrous [optional], oil pressure, voltmeter, & shift light [optional]). Use pillar pods, steering wheel columns, & any other empty space in the dash area if possible.

V. Price estimatesA. Price of vehicle: $5,000B. Price of cone filter (K&N): $90C. Price of exhaust1. Mufflers: $1802. Tip: $803. Custom welding & enlarging of pipe: $200D. NX Nitrous Express Import Kit: $1,100 (optional)E. Body work (exterior): $1,000 (if needed)F. 18” chrome rims w/low profile tires: $1,500 (for set)G. 6000K high-power Xenon lights: $600H. Undercar neon kit: $400I. Suicide doors w/shave: $5,000 (optional)J. Tint job: $200K. Interior detail: $100L. Aftermarket head unit for stereo: $300M. Aftermarket speakers1. A-Pillar tweeters: $302. Front speakers: $1503. Rear deck: $150N. Amplifier: $400 (includes wiring kit)O. Subwoofers: $400 (includes box & wires)P. Dynamat: $50Q. Interior neon tubes: $120 (set; 2 front, 1 rear)R. Aftermarket dome lights: $40S. Aftermarket gauges: $300 (including gauge pod)T. ESTIMATED TOTAL (without optional parts): $10,290 plus tax, installation fees, etc.U. ESTIMATED TOTAL (with optional parts): $17, 390 plus tax, installation fees, etc.

The VG30DE can handle up to a 75 wet shot of nitrous...ive seen a 300zx NA w/little mods that had 125shot

[Leuthesius]

I would suggest that if you're going to be building a sleeper to go with twin turbos/supers, high performance plugs, new Cops, and a double injection system connected to a secondary fuel tank in the trunk with higher octane gasoline, say.. racing fuel.

Second, remove the battery and build in a second aftermarket box with a second k&n cone filter. Place battery in enclosure in the trunk, double insulated to protect against a spark that blows the gas tank up and kills you.

Get a stiffer suspension for racing/cornering (if that's even possible).

Also, find a 6 spd manual transmission that'll fit to the engine.

oh, and switch out the rear differential with something that will actually let you go zoomiezoom.
Modified by Leuthesius at 9:32 AM 6/28/2008

[naladude911]

if you find some lowering springs, tell us, and we will call you a J30 God. (If you make them yourself, make a DYI ASAP)

[#1 Sailor Scout]

if you find some lowering springs, tell us, and we will call you a J30 God. (If you make them yourself, make a DYI ASAP)

Don't know that much yet. But I'll be looking.

The J30 will mainly be for VIP purposes, but for the racing world, it'll be for drag. There's no auto-x in Alabama, remember?

Well...I take that back...we may get it with the new Dale Jr track that will be built here in 2010ish.
Modified by #1 Sailor Scout at 9:53 AM 7/3/2008

[naladude911]

btw, i noticed ur saving for a J30. You can get one off eaby for like $3000. BTW, how did you put so many miles on a civic so soon?

[#1 Sailor Scout]

btw, i noticed ur saving for a J30. You can get one off eaby for like $3000. BTW, how did you put so many miles on a civic so soon?

It's EBay.

I travel a lot. Plus, I drive every day, & seeing that the Civic is my only car for now, I rack up the miles.

My uncle is supposed to be finding me a J30 for that price. I don't think he's buying it off EBay, though.

I forgot to mention that I bought the Civic when it first hit the lot, so...yeah. I've been driving & racing in it ever since.
Modified by #1 Sailor Scout at 1:53 PM 6/30/2008

[yodawill2000]

Craigslist is as far as I would go.Gotta lay hands on anything I'm about to spend money on.

[#1 Sailor Scout]

What is "Craigslist?"

[kbflip02]

What is "Craigslist?"

http://mobile.craigslist.org/car/

[#1 Sailor Scout]

Thanks for that link. I don't shop online, though; I'd rather buy it in person. I just do my research online (like on these forums).

[#1 Sailor Scout]

I would suggest that if you're going to be building a sleeper to go with twin turbos/supers, high performance plugs, new Cops, and a double injection system connected to a secondary fuel tank in the trunk with higher octane gasoline, say.. racing fuel.

Second, remove the battery and build in a second aftermarket box with a second k&n cone filter. Place battery in enclosure in the trunk, double insulated to protect against a spark that blows the gas tank up and kills you.

Get a stiffer suspension for racing/cornering (if that's even possible).

Also, find a 6 spd manual transmission that'll fit to the engine.

oh, and switch out the rear differential with something that will actually let you go zoomiezoom.

Modified by Leuthesius at 9:32 AM 6/28/2008

Good point, but I'm not looking for crazy power. Just something in the 300-350 HP range.

Like I said, it's going to be mainly for VIP. I'll just have the bare necessities to smack these ricers in drag racing. Also, since we're getting an auto-x track in 2010ish, I may not need that nitrous.

So if I'm going to put a custom box for my battery & stuff in my trunk, where will I put the subs & amps?

[#1 Sailor Scout]

btw, i noticed ur saving for a J30. You can get one off eaby for like $3000.

& just to clarify a few things...I have close to enough for a J. I just need somewhere to put it. I can't leave it @ my uncle's all the time, & since I live with my parents still, there's no room for anymore cars in our driveway. When I get my apartment & get my bills straight, then I'll get the J, b/c by then, I'll have somewhere to keep it.

[kbflip02]

Good point, but I'm not looking for crazy power. Just something in the 300-350 HP range.

Like I said, it's going to be mainly for VIP. I'll just have the bare necessities to smack these ricers in drag racing. Also, since we're getting an auto-x track in 2010ish, I may not need that nitrous.

So if I'm going to put a custom box for my battery & stuff in my trunk, where will I put the subs & amps?

you can get 300-350 hp @ the crank naturally aspirated...if youre looking for that power @ the wheels youll have to do the TT swap....i have a custom box w/two tens in the trunk with the amp mounted to it and theres still room if i wanted to relocate the battery back there....if you wanted to spend $$$ you could get a custom box...relocate the amp to the spare tire well...and go from there....

in order to get that much power naturally aspirated youll need1-intake2-exhaust3-headers(custom b/c the steering column is in the way for stillen on anything else)4-ecu tune Z1 or jim wolf5-cams6-pulleys7-injectors(stock TT are 370cc)8-fuel pump(walbro 255)i have an aeromotive tsunami but thats just over kill9-adjustable fuel regulator(nismo or aeromotive)10-port and polish the heads and port match the intakes11-maybe a valve body job on your transmission if you plan on dragging it

and you might want to invest in an electric fan....if you do happen to run short on power an alternator from a 96 maxima will fit....it puts out 125 amps where as the stock one on the J only puts out 90 amps...you just have to fabricate a bracket which was suprisingly easy and i suck @ fabrication

i havent dyno'd my car yet but i still need to do the port and polish, headers,adj fuel reg, and i need some transmission work....i was also told that a custom aluminum driveshaft wouldnt hurt either....but thats overkill too...ive heard from many different sources that a stock VG30DE would be able to handle a 75 continuous wet shot but im not balsy enough to try it....hopefully this helps clarify a few things for you-K

[yodawill2000]

Be ready to by a few trannys if you put NOS in these things.

[naladude911]

Port and Polish, does that mean going deep into the engine and cleaning out the piston shafts?

[gr8scott72]

you can get 300-350 hp @ the crank naturally aspirated...if youre looking for that power @ the wheels youll have to do the TT swap....i have a custom box w/two tens in the trunk with the amp mounted to it and theres still room if i wanted to relocate the battery back there....if you wanted to spend $$$ you could get a custom box...relocate the amp to the spare tire well...and go from there....

in order to get that much power naturally aspirated youll need1-intake2-exhaust3-headers(custom b/c the steering column is in the way for stillen on anything else)4-ecu tune Z1 or jim wolf5-cams6-pulleys7-injectors(stock TT are 370cc)8-fuel pump(walbro 255)i have an aeromotive tsunami but thats just over kill9-adjustable fuel regulator(nismo or aeromotive)10-port and polish the heads and port match the intakes11-maybe a valve body job on your transmission if you plan on dragging it

and you might want to invest in an electric fan....if you do happen to run short on power an alternator from a 96 maxima will fit....it puts out 125 amps where as the stock one on the J only puts out 90 amps...you just have to fabricate a bracket which was suprisingly easy and i suck @ fabrication

i havent dyno'd my car yet but i still need to do the port and polish, headers,adj fuel reg, and i need some transmission work....i was also told that a custom aluminum driveshaft wouldnt hurt either....but thats overkill too...ive heard from many different sources that a stock VG30DE would be able to handle a 75 continuous wet shot but im not balsy enough to try it....hopefully this helps clarify a few things for you-K

I still want to see proof that you can make 85 - 135 MORE hp than stock with those mods.

[gr8scott72]

Port and Polish, does that mean going deep into the engine and cleaning out the piston shafts?

no

[kbflip02]

I still want to see proof that you can make 85 - 135 MORE hp than stock with those mods.

dont worry bro im gonna get on a dyno as soon as i get a chance i just havent been able to since my wife is prego and im always on the run for cravings and such...hopefully soon

[gr8scott72]

dont worry bro im gonna get on a dyno as soon as i get a chance i just havent been able to since my wife is prego and im always on the run for cravings and such...hopefully soon

My wife is also.

You didn't get a before dyno so you don't have anything to compare it to. Or did you?

[yodawill2000]

Not to argue Le'Scott but we kinda know what the J is stock.

Its da' Afta' the Matta' .

hehe

[gr8scott72]

Not to argue Le'Scott but we kinda know what the J is stock.

Its da' Afta' the Matta' .

hehe

Cars are different from one to another and so are dynos. To guess what the before was and then show the after isn't very accurate.

[naladude911]

Did you darken your headlights KB?

[kbflip02]

My wife is also.

You didn't get a before dyno so you don't have anything to compare it to. Or did you?

no i should have though...its alright though....i just found out today from my friend who works for lamborghini that theyll dyno my car for $80 for 5 passes

[kbflip02]

Did you darken your headlights KB?

LOL no thats just condensation...i need to reseal the housings

[naladude911]

It looks nice though, it complements your wheels, you should paint the inside charcoal....

[#1 Sailor Scout]

I still want to see proof that you can make 85 - 135 MORE hp than stock with those mods.

So do I, because I only plan on installing nitrous as a last resort. I've heard too many horror stories about it.

Good thing you brought that up, because $ is low for me, which means I won't be able to do the VG30DETT swap.

[Jakw]

[#1 Sailor Scout]

Good news!!! I talked to my uncle & he said he does know a person who will sell him a J for a decent price. No pics as of yet, but it's in good condition. Has about 150K miles on it. Engine runs excellent, but needs some TLC in the cosmetic dept. The radio has been stolen out of it (which is no problem for me; I install stereos). So this is a good platform for me. My uncle said that he'll hold on to it until I finish paying for the Civic (which will be in 4 years), then he'll sell the J to me for $2500, modded or stock.