"My nissan motor knockin, because it is a lemon" (W/video)

[Caveit77777]

So I've had my 240 for about 2 months and I paid 5 grand for something I thought was a good running stock car. Wrong. Previous owner said he changed the oil right before he sold it to me and my dumbass took his word for it and never bothered to check. Well either he didn't do it right or I leaked 4 and a half quarts of oil and I don't think it's the second one because my car isn't leaking. So no oil, plus an auto cross, plus daily driving equals a nice rod knock. But hey you live and you learn right? So the engine hasn't thrown it out yet or anything and can still run and with that said I need help on choosing what's next.

I've always wanted an sr and plan on putting one in over summer but my parents would have to help me out and i'd basically be giving all my paychecks to them till it's paid off. How much I am looking at for a stock sr? I looked and im thinking about 2,300 but then again it seems everytime i post a price there's always some SUPER deal finder on here who got has rb26 for $12.99

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcCJxmDljn8

Next I could get a rebuild kit from where ever and either replace the stock parts or build the hell out of it and go ka-t.

Or I could just get a new ka.

So out of these 3 options I need help on deciding or if you guys have any ideas feel free to chime in.
Thanks

[PyR0NiAk]

So I've had my 240 for about 2 months and I paid 5 grand for something I thought was a good running stock car. Wrong. Previous owner said he changed the oil right before he sold it to me and my dumbass took his word for it and never bothered to check. Well either he didn't do it right or I leaked 4 and a half quarts of oil and I don't think it's the second one because my car isn't leaking. So no oil, plus an auto cross, plus daily driving equals a nice rod knock. But hey you live and you learn right? So the engine hasn't thrown it out yet or anything and can still run and with that said I need help on choosing what's next.

I've always wanted an sr and plan on putting one in over summer but my parents would have to help me out and i'd basically be giving all my paychecks to them till it's paid off. How much I am looking at for a stock sr? I looked and im thinking about 2,300 but then again it seems everytime i post a price there's always some SUPER deal finder on here who got has rb26 for $12.99

Next I could get a rebuild kit from where ever and either replace the stock parts or build the hell out of it and go ka-t.

Or I could just get a new ka.

So out of these 3 options I need help on deciding or if you guys have any ideas feel free to chime in.
Thanks

You're looking at about 3k for an SR after it's in the car. That's if you do it yourself. You could also build a KA-T for a pretty low price. A friend of mine is running a KA with a T3/T04e. If I remember right, he spent less than 2500 on the build itself. Of course, that was a nicely running KA and one you'd get from a junkyard, wouldn't likely be as nice...

Given you're having trouble figuring out if you can afford an SR swap... I recommend forgetting any RB series swap.

[Caveit77777]

I know i can afford an sr... just not at the moment. I planned on getting it in and running by the end of summer, maybe fall at the latest and I'd be swapping it in with a few buddies of mine. I'm staying away from the rb. I was origianlly a ka-t fanboy and now i want an sr but I'm still open to either. I just don't want to build up to ka-t only to have this happen again. All the horror stories are sort of scaring me off of it so idk.

[PyR0NiAk]

I know i can afford an sr... just not at the moment. I planned on getting it in and running by the end of summer, maybe fall at the latest and I'd be swapping it in with a few buddies of mine. I'm staying away from the rb. I was origianlly a ka-t fanboy and now i want an sr but I'm still open to either. I just don't want to build up to ka-t only to have this happen again. All the horror stories are sort of scaring me off of it so idk.

I'm an SR guy because of convenience and I love turning high RPMs. The only weakness with the KA is it's long stroke. Most horror stories exist with the KA because of people not building/treating them correctly.

[OM3GA]

I'm an SR guy because of convenience and I love turning high RPMs. The only weakness with the KA is it's long stroke. Most horror stories exist with the KA because of people not building/treating them correctly.

Exactly, with ka's Tuning is key dont do anything cheap either go full standalone or do a JWT Tune and get an AFC to fine tune it. You could get a KA and do a full SR turbo setup on it with the injectors and everything for fairly cheap. However after you add it up you'd be pretty close to the same amount of money that it would take to get a stock SR.

If you are thinking about doing RB then be sure to do all your research on that engine because YOU will be working on it a decent amount. It is definitely one of those "Do the work yourself" type of motors. They are great engines for sure but parts for those are harder to find (RB20 at least).

Think wisely, rebuild the SR maybe with all stock parts?

[Caveit77777]

So can I replace the parts needed in my ka now with parts that are stock or do I need a bigger bore? I'm leaning towards just getting this one to running condition, buying another ka and building it up on the side so I'm not rushed to get anything done with it then put the built one in when I'm ready. Not sure yet still plenty of ideas floating around but that's just one of them

[NYIntensity]

Have you put in any lucas oil stabilizer? Mine knocked liked that one time; I threw in the lucas oil stabilizer and it got the knock out...

[Caveit77777]

Have you put in any lucas oil stabilizer? Mine knocked liked that one time; I threw in the lucas oil stabilizer and it got the knock out...

No I haven't. In chronological order: Car had low oil (didn't know), cars starts ticking and I realize oil is low, bring it to jiffy lube (buddy works there), cars still ticks, tick turns into loud knocking, im typing this message. That was all over about the course of a week. I'm thinking that when I went to the autocross a few weeks back my oil could have been low then and that might have done it.

But like I said i'm open to anything so I'll try it. I'll get a video up soon too so instead of me describing the noise as a "knocking/ticking" sound you guys can hear it too.

[NYIntensity]

That's pretty similar to what I had. I added the Lucas oil stabilizer and within a few miles it went away. Even if you can't fix the damage that's been done, the Lucas will help mitigate any further damage.

[OutToWinPAHC]

Okay... you buy a car without going over it top to bottom. You dont notice oil puddles, or an oil lamp after leaking the entire crankcase. You take your car to events and beat on it, all with out even changing the oil and checking the car out before hand.

I hate to be a jerk, but I am a prick bastard by nature..... what the hell did you expect, man up, some of this is your own fault.

[NYIntensity]

I hate to be a jerk, but I am a prick bastard by nature.....

You sure as s*** owned up to that. The internet was made for d!ck like you I suppose. Thanks for your help!

[Caveit77777]

Okay... you buy a car without going over it top to bottom. You dont notice oil puddles, or an oil lamp after leaking the entire crankcase. You take your car to events and beat on it, all with out even changing the oil and checking the car out before hand.

I hate to be a jerk, but I am a prick bastard by nature..... what the hell did you expect, man up, some of this is your own fault.

Ok... I never said I wasn't going to own up to it. I clearly stated in the first post that I made a mistake and yeah it is my fault. I'm 16 I still have plenty of time to learn. Thanks for the help anyways... o wait nevermind.

[OutToWinPAHC]

You sure as s*** owned up to that. The internet was made for d!ck like you I suppose. Thanks for your help!

d!ck, no, honest as hell without dancing around the fact yes. Now call me or any other staff member a d!ck again and you can say bye bye to Nico cupcake.

[Caveit77777]

At least you gave a warning before banning him, they just went ahead and banned me forever on zilvia and the reason was none haha. Seriously though lets all be friends, back to the topic.

[whyteboi]

sounds like its just starting to get a knock, i mean its not super bad, mayb run a heaver oil and\or an oil additive till you get another engine

oh and nice shorts btw

[OutToWinPAHC]

At least you gave a warning before banning him, they just went ahead and banned me forever on zilvia and the reason was none haha. Seriously though lets all be friends, back to the topic.

But on the real oil and coolant are crucial to engines. Always check it, dont take leaks and consumption lightly. To loose 4.5 quarts is serious, buy a good used motor, freshen it up with a fresh gasket set (quality brand), shim the lifters, replace tensioners / guides as needed, replace valve stem seals, and enjoy a good clean engine.

[gigabit240]

Im sorry about your knock man. In my opinion I'd go SR unless you have all the time in the world.

[Gabes13]

Bearings and bolts are like $200,
Why's everyone saying SR?
Imo,
not that it matters,
Tear down the ka.
Play with it.

[Caveit77777]

Bearings and bolts are like $200,
Why's everyone saying SR?
Imo,
not that it matters,
Tear down the ka.
Play with it.

Jesus I feel like I have way to many options. Here's the deal. My buddy is calling some people to see if he can find a spare ka for me to put in just so I have a driveable car. I'm wondering if my ka that has the knock is too screwed to play with. Meaning I'd ideally like to have a ka-t with around 280-300hp, and was wondering if it would be possible on my engine or is it just sorta screwed for life? Can a ka handle 280-300 on stock but new internals?

Btw, real men wear pink... and/or salmon haha

[zerepdivad]

Hmm you did an autocross event without even changing the oil? Was this your first car or something? Sorry to hear but it obviously could have EASILY been avoided...

[NYIntensity]

Your question for the KA-T up to 300hp is answered in the KA-T subforum, but with new internals, in short, yes, the KA can handle it.

[gigabit240]

Bearings and bolts are like $200,
Why's everyone saying SR?
Imo,
not that it matters,
Tear down the ka.
Play with it.

Yea thats what im sayin. If he has the time to fool with it then by all means do it. It'll be a great learning experience. If you don't have the time, then go SR because #1 part sourcing isn't that difficult, #2 It's stock 200hp, #3 From what I read theres not much re wiring and other necessary things you have to do to drop it in. Since your getting another KA though then you could probably rebuild your broken one depending on how damaged it is, and with just a rod knock you could probably rebuild with forged rods and pistons and have it run like new.

[Caveit77777]

Hmm you did an autocross event without even changing the oil? Was this your first car or something? Sorry to hear but it obviously could have EASILY been avoided...

Actually yes it is. I had a bimmer for about a year but I never worked on it. Figured the 240 would be easier to learn on just turns out that I'm doing it the hard way. I already started taking apart this engine just because, well I don't really know why but I took the valve cover off. I'm just sort of learning about my engine this way haha.

Thanks for the help so far everyone I think I might go ka-t.
Looks like some sludge in there. bleh