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Going to grind out the centers of the Chevy wheels.

I also need to know what wire is power and what wire is ground on the TBI injectors along with their size (Lbs/hr or CCs/Min).


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I'll look in my manual later if ya want.

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breadbox wrote:I'll look in my manual later if ya want.
Please do, thanks!

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Bumper rendering!


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Big news coming, but first, a come to dumbass moment.

As you know I have the Megasquirt built and modified to use Ford EDIS-4. Followed the plans, then a few weeks later tried to flash the new firmware. First mistake was trying to use a 9V Battery because the Stimulator does. Well, that works for the Stimulator, but not when just working with the MS. So, after trying to build a 12V battery pack, I just used a car battery. Great, now I have enough juice, but still couldn't flash it. I would run Port Check and two ports would come up. Moving the tuning cable helped find the right port to use (or rather which number not to use).

Well, tried to flash it again, no go. After trying another port, I then tried flashing with the MS unattached to my computer. Same error, (the "expected this but got '""' error) meaning the MS wasn't receiving power. WTF? I started to panic then get ticked off as I started thinking "CRAP, I JUST KILLED IT!:" Went up to the house, got some sleep, this morning got up and read some trouble shooting instructions. "Diodes could be backward" read one of the thoughts, so I figured I did that. Went to work and started thinking of plan B. Every time I thought up plan B, I kept thinking, "come on, you don't need a plan B if you haven't done all of plan A!"

After getting done with Brent and Redbeard: UNLEASHED on 1340whap.com, I get home and start looking at the diodes, they're all correct. CRAP! Read through the EDIS mod instructions, get to adding a wire from the bottom of Resistor 10 to the... "NO! I didn't," I thought! The instructions read "Fit wire between bottom of R10 and right of D9 (banded side)," you take a guess (yeah, unbanded side). So much for following directions! Gah, all the worry over nothing! Or so I thought, after fixing the wire I try flashing again, but as a check I run Port Check. Sees it, as it's supposed to, but when I tried flashing, still wouldn't do it. COME ON, why is this thing being so stubborn?

Then a thought hits me, "My Boot jumper wire, what if it's too small? The holes are pretty big." So, I go back to my old mechanic self and grabbed a paper clip, cut it, then flashed one more time. It counted to 1750 lines! It worked! Ran Port Check and all is well with the world!

Proves, never give up on plan A so quick and be more stubborn than the equipment!

Now, on with the big news!

Local NAPA Parts Dealer and Psycho Drifting Team Up

Exclusively through Powers NAPA Auto Parts of Petersburg, VA and Psycho Racing's Drifting Driver, Justin Banner, also of Petersburg, VA, bring you one more way to get quality parts at inexpensive prices! When you come in to your Powers NAPA Auto Parts stores (25811 Cox Rd or 201 N Market St) and mention "DRIFT27," you will receive a discount on parts and items not already on sale.

Thanks to the partnership of Psycho Racing's, Justin Banner and Powers NAPA Auto Parts, the quality of NAPA Parts, and the demand of OEM or better quality parts, you can "GET THE GOOD STUFFtm" at great prices!



"NAPA, GET THE GOOD STUFFtm"

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Just a reminder, Motor Radio will be on tonight at 6pm EST and is a one hour show at 1340whap.com.

Tonight:

Autocross ExplainedNASA Mid-Atlantic Championship Autocross #1 reviewedFD UpdateD1 UpdateProject Hardslider Update

If you want to email it's [email protected] or call in live at 804 452-4999! Looking forward to your calls and comments!

Recorded broadcast to up by Sunday/Monday!

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If you haven't already gotten the 4x4 centerlink, you might want to check one of these out. HooHaa centerlink at http://www.grassroots4x4.com, ask for it by name : )

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seang wrote:If you haven't already gotten the 4x4 centerlink, you might want to check one of these out. HooHaa centerlink at http://www.grassroots4x4.com, ask for it by name : )
Yeah, I haven't gotten it yet and will still do it. However, there has been a big change in the direction of my racing career. I've hinted at it every once in a while when I post here.

The idea is still the same, cheap DD truck that will be raced. The racing I will be doing has changed because of an opportunity I have been given by RuDawg Racing. I will still be sliding, but not all of it will be on pavement.

If you have the chance, listen in to 1340whap.com at 7pm EST (don't worry, I will record it) and you'll hear this crazy thing I'm doing. This crazy idea also required me to close the radio show (for now). It's going to get fun and dirty real quick!

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Concept of the gauge pod I will be building tomorrow!


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great to see another challenger!

this your first time? the main event is in the parking lot at night hopefully you got your room at the best western, it's the most fun thing I do all year, this will be my 7th challenge and I don't see not going any time soon

no time to build the car I wantedd this year so I'll be taking my Z31 back for it's third challenge appearance, tow vehicle issues is the only reason I spotted this thread

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Well, sorry to disappoint you (maybe not considering the idea is still the same), but I will not be doing the $2K9 Challenge this year. The Hardbody has changed from a Challenger, to a Drifter, and now it's going off road in Best In The Desert while still being inexpensive and allowing me to express myself as not only a driver, but as a builder. Right now all I'm waiting on is the Hot Chisel I'm getting from work to cut and shape the foam I have and make the Gauge Pods.

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too bad, the challenge is a freaking party

I'd like to do the lemons sometime as well, it's a lot of the same people, and looks like a freaking hoot, just too dang many cars to make room for another right now

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evildky wrote:too bad, the challenge is a freaking party

I'd like to do the lemons sometime as well, it's a lot of the same people, and looks like a freaking hoot, just too dang many cars to make room for another right now
That would be great to try. Maybe once I get established in BITD, I can get a LeMons or a cheap drift car going. Guy here at work put a bug in my ear about a 4.3l conversion into a GM G-Body. Regal Drifter?

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eww, if you are gonna build a tank like a G body (btw the gran prix is the only g body to get factory subframe connectors) why not big block or turbo 3.8? you get the slihtely less weight of the V6 with big power form the turbo, and the chassis is big enought o fit the big block or small block which will amek mroe power than the V6 for less money, not sure why anyone would choose the n/a v6 when there are such better options

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Guys put 350s and 400s in G-Bodies all the time. As a matter of fact, the Regal and Monte Carlo are popular cars to use in entry level Stock Car racing.

The 4.3L is also more powerful than you give credit for. At stock level, it produces any where from 210-260 lb/ft of Torque. Just depends on what year you look at. Also, bigger power can and has been realized. Quote from Hot Rod Magazine on a N/A 4.3L build they did:

"The result was 301 hp at 5,500 rpm and 312 lb-ft at 4,700. Puny, but let us remind you that it's still 50 hp per cylinder (a similar 350 V-8 would make 400 hp), which is pretty good for the very mild parts we used. Besides, at 0.060-over, it's just 270ci. Naturally aspirated, our V-6 should put an S-10 into the 14s, and with forged pistons and studded mains, we're ready to nitrous this thing to at least 400 hp or add a Vortech blower for an easy 450 to run in the 12s or better. Even more interesting, Allstar Performance sells brackets to swap a 90-degree V-6 where a V-8 used to be, and the resulting engine setback could make this thing killer for handling applications in, say, a third-gen F-body."

So, not only can you get small block V8 type power from the 4.3L, you also get much less weight than the V8. Great for handling and for drifting.

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the 4.3 is a 350 with 2 cylinders cut off, and well, there si no replacement for displacement, the V6 using a carb is likely going to get a better air fuel mixture across allt he cylinders than a V8 as the runers are lessnot angles as much, if they would do an injected itb setup on both engines the result should be about equal per displacement aside fomr a slight harmonic gain, a V6 does have a better naturalharmonic than a V8 but an inline 6 has an even better harmonic

as for weight the V6 isn't much lighter than the V8 but again if you want to do the V6, run the turbo 3.8, tons of power potential

and fwiw my junkyard L28 made 299 whp and 305 lbft of torque with 2 cracked pistons

my challenge VG30ET made 315 whp and 295 lb ft

I know the gm v6 has potential it's just not the easist way to make power,sbc has far more aftermarket making parts cheaper and more available, and the turbo 3.8 well, just crank up the boost

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Well, lets get back on subject, the G-body is probably a year away for now.

Out of curiosity, since the BITD allows any engine in Class 7200 so long it is no bigger than a 6 cylinder and not turbocharged/supercharged/N20, how well would a RB25DE take to desert beating? What is a realistic power number I could extract from it?

Also, another radical idea, which independent rear would be best for the desert? Z32 diff, S13 diff, something else?

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There are also rb30de's. You are really going progressive on this thing.

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It's that drifter influence (which will be more than just the engine and drivetrain), but it's not guaranteed to be this year either one would be installed. I mean, everybody has a solid rear, V6, and usually a Ford. I'm being different by simply using a Hardbody, why stop there? I want this truck to stand out like a sore thumb and look great doing it.

Realistically, though, the rear end has a better chance of being installed before I go to California, but it will depend on sponsor money. I do feel that the Press Release that BITD will put out and the fact that I will cater to the younger drifter and off road crowds will bring the money.

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You could also do a vg30de, or a vq35/40de engine and really f*** those Fords up. The rb30de is also out there. As for power expectations for the rb25de, I guess about 250 is probably possible, maybe more. It depends on how fast you are gonna spin it, and you still want enough reliability to get through the race. vq40de already has like 265hp and 280 tq.

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seang wrote:You could also do a vg30de, or a vq35/40de engine and really f*** those Fords up. The rb30de is also out there. As for power expectations for the rb25de, I guess about 250 is probably possible, maybe more. It depends on how fast you are gonna spin it, and you still want enough reliability to get through the race. vq40de already has like 265hp and 280 tq.
And the sad part is I had a VG30E not too long ago that I traded/sold for a KA24DE that I later sold. Wow, kinda feel like kicking myself in the . But, hey, back then ( ) I didn't even think I would be doing something THIS crazy. Oh, well, just means I can get something faster and stronger.

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Yes, I'm trading my '87 Nissan Hardbody Project truck. It comes with:

Megasquirt 1 V2.2 Flashed for EDISInnovative LC1 with Bosch 02 SensorFord EDIS-4 ModuleBrand New NAPA EDIS-4 coil packBrand New NAPA 94 Ford Escort WiresReMan'd Front CalipersNAPA Front Pads91 Nissan Pathfinder front end body panels91 Nissan Pathfinder V6 radiatorOE 87 Nissan Hardbody ECU (no body or engine harness)OE 87 Nissan Hardbody DashHonda Civic seatsCustom 17" Limited Alloy Wheels with Goodyear Tires'94 Pathfinder Wheels with two 235/75/15 Goodyear tires5 steel 16" GM wheels2 Aluminum 16" GM wheels with BF Goodrich tiresAuto Meter Tachometer and SpeedometerNAPA Fuel, Water Temp., and Oil Pressure GaugesGrant Polished Steering WheelXBOX 360 with Skate, Baja Edge of Control, and Dirt2$100 CASH!

There is many more parts that I haven't listed, but you'll see when you come look at the truck. You will have to tow it out. I want a Nissan or Infiniti 4 cylinder, 5-speed car. I'm moving out of VA and don't want the baggage.


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All I can say is I've got some drama I'm tired of dealing with and it ain't the truck.

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Drift21_Hardslider wrote:All I can say is I've got some drama I'm tired of dealing with and it ain't the truck.
And it continues.... Folks said if I can get it running and driving by Friday, I don't have to sell it. Pray to the car gods for her, and to god for my sanity.

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You can do it!

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Oh and I'll buy the X-box 360 off of ya for $100

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Well, I'm starting on the right foot by getting a header. I have to modify it because it's really for a Toyota pickup, I have to use the flange for my manifold and cut the top of the tubes and rotate the 180*. But, at $100 I shouldn't complain too much.

Then all that's left for the exhaust is a flex pipe and extension (Purple Hornies header muffler coming out of the bed, 12" behind my head per VA State Inspection). Then comes the ECU and gauge wiring, dash modification, then the light wiring, and then the seat. Then insurance and tags.

... You know, this isn't sounding as bad as it did.


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