My ka24de hesitation

Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
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x91s13shawnx
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Car: 1991 240sx hatchback

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my car has a lot of hesitation. i just swapped this engine in 1000 miles ago and it has 175 compression all the way across, it sounds great no knocking but when i try to accelerate my rpm's go up really slow and im not going anywhere. i know it just a ka but my old one was nothing like this can anyone help?


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lcs_96_240
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Car: 240sx

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check all you connections. sometime when you do swaps they tend to get dirty or water in them. if not that check you fuel filter.

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x91s13shawnx
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kk. i will try it, thanks

liquid_cool
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Car: 1990 Nissan 240SX KA24DE-T swap 8.6:1cr, duelsprings, ti retainers,supertech pistons, K1 H-beems balanced internals ect ect

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its your timing...100% positive..redo the timing and problem should go away...this is a common issue with the dual cams..sometimes there rebuilt thining there running fine when infact there a tooth off and lack power...to check this ...

remove the valve cover..and all the spark plugs...put the ebrake on..and leave car in nuetral.slowly rotate the engine till you are lined up with the TDC or Top Dead Center mark..thats the second to the last mark on the left side of the crank as you face the front of the car....your looking for the #1 cylinder cam lobs are facing away from eachother..thats the compression stroke...once your on the mark..look at the cam positions...

they should be pointing away from eachother..but slightly upwards..if they are even slightly different..redo the timing..it's off.

hope this gets ya in the rite direction..good luck...keep us posted.


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x91s13shawnx
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i checked it. its still running the same, anything else you think i should try?

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SkinnyKibbles
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Clutch slipping?

liquid_cool
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x91s13shawnx wrote:i checked it. its still running the same, anything else you think i should try?
well if its not timing..and your shure its not that...try pulling codes off of your ECU..you may have a bad sensor..a few sensors can couse issues simmilar to this...TPS,throttle Position Sensor....MAF,Mass Air Flow sensor...knock sensor...all of these have the potential of cousing that same symptom..keep us posted.

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x91s13shawnx
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i really think that is what it is. i have no codes

hrc8969
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I'm having the same problem.. if you find anything out let me know

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x91s13shawnx
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yeah i will for sure. its driving me crazy!

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x91s13shawnx
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if you find anything out please let me know too

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SiDwAyZ240
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Gentlemen I may have your solution. My kade had the same problem with no codes, timing was good and all sensors checked ok. I even changed spark plugs, fuel filter, fuel pump and wires. Hesitation went to flooding and not starting. Traced it to the distributor and the camshaft position sensor. You have to pull your distributor to check it with a multi meter. Make sure to note the position of the dizzy, or have the understanding of were its supposed to be at TDC. On my six terminal plug on the dizzy you measure the volt reading between the middle two wireswith the connector pluged in (back probe, ie: shove the probes through the back of the connector while its hooked up) with the ignition on. Hold the dizzy with with a pair of channel locks or you might get zapped while you turn the shaft slowly and note the volt reading. Should move between 0 and 5v as you turn. Mine was faulty, only gave me reading no higher than .5v.

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SiDwAyZ240
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Just make sure you unplug your spark plugs, and dont start your car, just have the ignition on. Grab a used dizzy for a few bucks, a new one is a couple hundred.

P.S. Actually Liquid Cool had it right cause dizzy is part of timing. I lost that bet with one of my other friends.

bens240sx
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Car: 1993 240sx fastback KA24DE kitted

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before that make sure your running on all four cyl check the plug wires that was my problem that it was arking in my heads wall so check that by pullig each wire one at a time and c if your engine changes idle if it doesnt thats the bad wire but other wise hesitation is mostly 100% time all the time

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KA24DE-T Bound-Drfter
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Yeah it's your timing, it has to be if it's compression testing perfect(like you say). . because when i advanced my timing too far or retarted it too far i would pull really slowly and would sometimes die. . . so do some rechecking.


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