My hesitation issue...

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Acecool
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jdm online said 150 across the board....

I made a video... with the old spark plug (denso or so) with the sharp tip, it actually ran quite a bit better....

Not bucking a lot, but the hesitation was still there.. give gas but will not go anywhere....

Im editing the video together to make it smaller and will upload to my website...

Couple minutes..

Videos show it running AWESOME with it cold..

but when warm, like on the bridge run it was a little harder to accelerate and on bridge run 2 it was as well...

foggy night out there :-)


AxiOn419
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Give me a link when you get it up.

Is your clutch slipping?? I remember in a previous thread you posted and it sounded like you were having clutch issues.


Acecool
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Traction issues... wet pavement plus bald tires to not match!!! :-)

Wasnt clutch because my car rear end would go sideways a little...

Videos are compressing now...

vid 1 will be about 100mb...

the others will be smaller, and the audio quality isnt that good.. I shouldve put a cloth in between the rearview and the camera...

Edit: 30 minutes until the first one is uploaded....

Acecool
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Acecool
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http://www.acecoolco.com/user_files/rb20det3.avi (10.99 mb)

ready...

1 and 4 still uploading... give it about 1 hour from this post until downloading... ill write another message once they are done

2 videos uploaded - 1 and 4 still uploading as of this post..... make sure they are the right size before downloading fully...http://www.acecoolco.com/user_files/rb20det1.avi (95.73mb)http://www.acecoolco.com/user_files/rb20det2.avi (9.56 mb)http://www.acecoolco.com/user_files/rb20det3.avi (10.99 mb)http://www.acecoolco.com/user_files/rb20det4.avi (48.53 mb)


Acecool
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Acecool
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Acecool
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sparkplugs pregapped at .9

old sparkplugs at 1.1

Acecool
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Ok, so I tried what driftingmy240sx said...

Started her up, put the screwdriver on the injector... car shuts off....

cranks but no longer starts... I hear the fuel pump priming, the fuse is good... but it will not start.. damnit!

relays still click, wiring is still the same...

bah!!!!

Edit: After pulling a random coil - number 2, and trying to crank it with the tip of the spark plug against the valve cover.. NO SPARK!!!

Could this have fried my igniter?

AxiOn419
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Have you tried a different relay? I would try that. One of my green relays clicked on my car in my previous s13 and I removed it and the car still ran. Though I have been told the wiring was probably done wrong in that case.If you must, you should be able to pull one of those blue relays near the fuel pump relay just to test.

Acecool
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Im getting no spark now though....

I am pissed :-(

both of the green relays are clicking, I feel them...

Holy.... I can not afford one of these igniters, if this is bad.....

I am about to just say **** it, and sell the project :-(
Modified by Acecool at 12:06 PM 12/10/2007

AxiOn419
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Ahh, where is the diligence man. You will get the thing running right. Your problem could be something simple. Also, this may not be as bad as you think. Your whole ignitor may have just givin out. Not a huge deal. Check the resistance between the pins on the ignitor with a voltmeter. Go from pin 1 to pin 1 on the other side, then pin 2 to 2 ... See what it reads.

Also, you can check to see if you ECU is giving spark by sticking the positive probe into the plug that connects to the ignitor. Unhook the ignitor on the left side (if you are facing the front of the engine bay). Stick the positive probe into the metal prong of the harness that is associated with the #1 spot on the ignitor, do so for all 6. Make sure to ground the black probe on the chassis before doing this. Have someone crank the car over (it wont start, the ignitor is unplugged) and see if you are getting a signal. You want the voltmeter set on AC current for this test. You will see the number bouncing up then down, thats normal because its sent as a pulse. Just make sure you are getting signal across all 6.

Dont give up

Also, If it is the ignitor then dont stress out.. I do have a spare that I suppose I am willing to part with if it means another RB will be up and on the road. They are not that expensive.
Modified by AxiOn419 at 4:57 PM 12/10/2007

Acecool
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Well, I talked to carl for a bit..

I got code 11 (which was from my eng cont fuse being out which is the CAS)

No problem... cleared codes.. code 55 = all good...

Left it in diag mode, and tried to start.. code 21... no ignition signal = igniter...

Ill probably do the j30 igniter swap, and the buick coil swap :-(

AxiOn419
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Well you can assume that your hesitation issue was caused by the failing ignitor. So hopefully once you get those parts replaced it will run great. Though the route you are going is going to cost a good penny, it will be worth it as you will have new parts that you know will last a while. Atleast you are past the troubleshooting phase and on to the fixing stage, which is a good thing.

Acecool
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It might have to wait until I am back from Germany, but maybe I can do it..

Ill try the j30 igniter first, and then if it still misses then the coil conversion, otherwise I will leave the coils alone until the time comes!

Josh

Acecool
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SOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was my igniter.... replaced it with a z32 igniter from nissan dealership and the hesitation is 100% GONE...


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