My exhaust smells....

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really rich, I dont even know if its rich but it is really strong, and seems to put out more steam(on colder mornings) than other cars on the road. Car does not smoke at all. Any ideas?


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If it passes emission test ok, V8 with big exhausts systems tend to smoke white [steam/water vapor] in the morning.

The smell may be the ethanol in your gasoline converting to acetylaldehyde and other chemicals you never smelled before the addition of ethanol last May.

There is an on going question concerning whether ethanol decreases cat life compared to MTBE + gasoline............we'll know for sure in a few years.

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Q45tech wrote:There is an on going question concerning whether ethanol decreases cat life compared to MTBE + gasoline............we'll know for sure in a few years.
yeah, at the expense of the consumers vehicle, nice to know my car is now a lab rat. I should have also mentioned my car suffers from the jerking/hesitation disease that is plaguing some of us.

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You are not a lab rat , just a part of the greatest wealth transfer to corn and other grain farmers and ethanol producers since the US government existed.

An almost instant doubling of the prices of corn and wheat....and land.

""It is not the investor that is pushing up land prices, it is the surge in corn prices from ethanol demand," said Jim Farrell, chief executive officer at Farmers National in Omaha, Nebraska, which manages almost 1.2 million acres of farmland on 3,700 farms...."

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Q45tech wrote:You are not a lab rat , just a part of the greatest wealth transfer to corn and other grain farmers and ethanol producers since the US government existed.

An almost instant doubling of the prices of corn and wheat....and land.

""It is not the investor that is pushing up land prices, it is the surge in corn prices from ethanol demand," said Jim Farrell, chief executive officer at Farmers National in Omaha, Nebraska, which manages almost 1.2 million acres of farmland on 3,700 farms...."
If the result of all this is the doubling of corn prices or other "home grown" staple in this country and thus resulting in higher profits for american farmers, I'll pay twice as much for gas.

Anything to get us 1 step closer to being free from the ties to foreign oil.

Who's with me?

I'd stuff a freakin corn cob right down the into the gas tank if I thought the car would run.

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brymax wrote:Who's with me?
I'm with you under two conditions:

1) This stuff didn't do massive damage to my fuel injectors2) My fuel system and (maybe) cats. wouldn't suffer.

Sadly, neither of these things are true...

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3.) If it doesn't require an equal amount of petroleum to produce, and therefore also release twice the global warming emissions as petroleum alone.

Once all the farm machinery runs on soy diesel or ethanol, and the corn dryers run on solar and/or wind, as well as the distilleries, and if we find a way to produce fertilizers from something other than petroleum, etc. ... then it might make some sense. As it is, it's just a waste of resources we can't afford.

And there isn't enough cropland in this country to supply all the ethanol feed product we'd need to replace petroleum in vehicles.

Google is a great resource. Maybe legislators and their staffs could avail themselves of it sometime, and learn something. Oh, and Google might help the mass media news "professionals", too - odd that they never seem to have heard of the problems with trying to replace gasoline with ethanol.


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96Qowner wrote:3.) If it doesn't require an equal amount of petroleum to produce, and therefore also release twice the global warming emissions as petroleum alone.

Once all the farm machinery runs on soy diesel or ethanol, and the corn dryers run on solar and/or wind, as well as the distilleries, and if we find a way to produce fertilizers from something other than petroleum, etc. ... then it might make some sense. As it is, it's just a waste of resources we can't afford.

And there isn't enough cropland in this country to supply all the ethanol feed product we'd need to replace petroleum in vehicles.

Google is a great resource. Maybe legislators and their staffs could avail themselves of it sometime, and learn something. Oh, and Google might help the mass media news "professionals", too - odd that they never seem to have heard of the problems with trying to replace gasoline with ethanol.
Let's get down to it though, there are more ways to produce energy than just corn. There are current studies out there that show common prarie grass has potential, water is a huge potential and the technology is already there with that option, and Canada is sitting on the largest source of common near surface coal on the planet.

Last I checked we don't have any issues with Canada, we like Canada and they are probably the 1st place we should be looking to assist us in energy resources, for obvious reasons.

But let's face the facts, we're looking to the government and big business to take the lead on this issue and that is obviously the worst source for forward thinking there is in this country.


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