My engine rebuild and plans

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xxtrizz
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ok I figured I would giv eyou guys a run down on what I am doing with my engine since I havent really said anything about it yet.

about 1/4 of this stuff im waiting on or havent purchassed yet and there are some things on here that I havent listed but ill keep it updated

INTERNALS

Pauter Rods

Fidanza Flywheel

SI Valves 8 Intake and 4 Exhaust oversized --

ARP HEAD AND MAIN STUDS - --

ROSS FORGED PISTONS 8.5 CP/R - --

SCE Copper Head Gasket - ---

Crower Reground CAM - ---

Main Bearings - ---

Rod Bearings - ---

Thermostat - NISMO ---

SPEC stage 3 CLutch Kit -

SWAIN COATINGS - 343.00 SwainTech

BALANCE TO PERFECTION!!!

EXTERNALS

OBX Headers -

PDM MAGNAFLOW CAT -

BRM Exhaust Stainless Steel Dual Tip -

Transmission Moint ---

Engine Moint--

Engine Moint --

Oil Pan -

300zx fuel filter -

Underdrive Pulley ASP --

Walbro Fuel pump -


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1) this forum is for turbos. you mentioned you are putting on HEADERS so I don't think this is in the right place.2) this forum is exclusively for the ka24e and de, four cylinder motors. They use one header. Since your engine uses multiple ones, I again believe you have misposted.3) wow you sure have spent a lot of money on something. good for you.

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good point but if it was NA why would he go with forged pistons and at a lower CR??

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it is a mystery. maybe so he can water down his gas? ****'s expensive these days.

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xxtrizz, your list is really disorganised and in some spots just plain wrong. It kinda seems like you dont really know what you're talking about. I'm not gonna assume though, I'll just ask: do you know wtf you are doing or are you still just trying to feel all this out right now?

Either way its fine: we're all here for different reasons!

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oh screw it.

NEEEWWWWBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB!!!!!!!!! GO SEARCH YOU IDOT

lol jk

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Haha it seems to me some of you guys are actually ignorant lol, alot of you guys are seasoned pros yet you manage to overlook the fact that there is a reason to this madness. I am turboing the actual SOHC engine however I have this planned out. There is alot of money being spent here however I am going to break the engine in NA before I actually turbo it since there is alot of money spent on the engine I dont need all of it wasted on irregular tuning. So that is why im getting a header for the engine my current one is broken and the replacement for it would cost 180 ish new. I assume I could go buy a used one but might as well get my bling bling on right away.

The engine will become turbo once its broken in fully. I have that completely setup however if a post will incure such responses as yours then Im a little reluctant in regards to actually posting it.

This is all planned out the actual initial post doesnt contradict itself although I didnt instruct in any way what my plans where I was very tired and decided on jsut posting on it. It wasnt to gloat on how much I spent that is why I took off the pricings next to the item. I figured that as a community you would have enjoyed reading that someone is so dedicated to the KA engine as I however from your salty response I guess no matter where I go I will always get bashed even if im trying to bring a little life to the KA section in regards to "this can be done" and this has potential.

Cmon guys I know your better than this.

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Let me ask you a couple of questions, that way I can better analyze your situation.

What turbo do you plan on running?How much boost do you plan on running?What engine managment are you running? What is the vehicle used for, drag, road course or street?What is the final WHP your looking for?

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Hey buddy well honestly I know when I set my goals there is gonna be debate in regards to what is necessary for parts etc. However aside from the fact that im getting really extreme performance parts that is in most part because I want to build a strong engine. To start off with im probably going to look into 300 hp.

I was initially going to start off with a kit you were going to suply so the hybrid turbo t3/to4e or I might even bump it up but I would like to get ahold of the AEM EMS system for tuning. Its a SOHC so im limited in regards to manifolds and I believe I will probably get a LOG JGS or the equal length IAP one.

It would be hard for me to supply a boost goal seeing as how my goal is more HP oriented and with correct tuning a lower more precise level of A/F - tuning output will yield better results.

Mostly for Street , and maybe for dragging but as I said im doing this for self exploration mostly, I intend to learn as much as I can from this and apply my knowledge later in life. I might not even intend on racing this car rather keep it as a classic such as a corvette. But I will decide upon that once the time comes.

ANy input would be nice constructive or destructive as long as the destructive is in a constructive tone.

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No comments? haha

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Why do you want oversized valves and a hotter cam?

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well I the need for the oversized valves was to allowe for better flow of the gases when there is more suface area for the gasses to excape from it allows for a quicker draw out of the system.

The hotter cam would be for higher top end power although Ill probably go for a mild upgrade something definitly streetable. I would still like to retain the quick off the line power but have a higher top end as well. I must compromise I dont have CVVT so im at a loss for accomplishing such a feet

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Look, if you're planning on a mild 300 hp, there's no point in making less power down low by adding larger valves and a hotter cam. Why do you want it? Most of the things you listed are just a waste of money. It won't do anything for you. Since you say you're investing so much money into this engine, including an EMS, you should get your money's worth by tapping into bigger hp.

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Why woudl I want top end power unless this is going to be only a track car? The more low end power the quicker the start and quicker the finish of the 1/4 mile. I would like the top end power as well but its a compromise either one or the other one to which I am debating lower end seems more logical as Ill probably only hit the 1/4 mile and have little to no track time.

This may seem liek a waste of money to you but its a investment to me. I could probably end up selling it to some chump ricer who just wants to look cool and go fast. They dont care as long as its cool looking haha and its hyped up. Or I can hold on to it as rememberance of the project that I worked on. I dont need advice on what I purchased as I have purchased most of it anways. I was just putting it out there. I could go for bigger HP but then the car would not be streetable and require really high octane gases. Why pay for the difference in parts for gas? When i would much rather have the parts then a potential hazard on my hands at the hands of bad tuning in the higher HP region.

This car is going to be a crown here where I live alot of people put trust into the SR20DET and they dont even know what the hell the hp reading is on it. lol its great to listen to them talk but when I roll up in a 240 with the BOV going pshuuuuu they calling out a sr and im rockin a ka truck wha? Hell yeas my friend that will put some big smiles on my face. I woudl be able to smoke a handful of people down here at 300 hp. The only other people that have good cars are like one supra TT and one mr2 rated at 400 hp.

Am I doing this for everyone else? no mostly for me and my goals are set i was jsut curious about comments on the parts really. Like oh that is good or no man watch out with that part.. etc. Thanks for the input so far however. Who knows I might keep the stock camshaft but why **** aroudn when the engine is out of the bay put that **** in now and dont even worry about it later.

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Ok dude just relax a little bit. I didnt mean to come off "salty" at all, hence my careful wording about not assuming as well as the joke right after my 1st post. Obviously someone is going to say something if you list a header under turbo parts and leave no explination for it. Now that I understand what you are doing it makes a bit more sense, no?

Anyways good luck on your project, it sounds like you're going to have fun with it.

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Well not to bring something dead back to life persay but I finally got the car up and running after the rebuild, initially I was a little skeptic about the rebuild that was done, as the actual craftmanship was far from proffesional, however it wasnt to bad for 1000 dollars, they put the timing system in 180 degrees backwards so the car ran crappy took it to nissan had them fix several items that were vaccum related and electrical that cost me 1000 dollars and then had a radiator leak, well now shes running good idle is strong shes at about 500 miles gonna get an oil change soon and she should be rocking. Next suspension then Turbo fellas. Im excited are you? Im going to have the EMS tuned with this vehicle, would have it no other way but perfectly tuned, even if it wasnt intended to be turbo.

Now im getting baggedby my friends cause they want my car to look good, rather than drive good and be fast.... children.... to bad its my car and not theirs haha so im gonna smoke them when the time comes hehe.


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