MY COUPES SECRET PAST!!

[sjbaltimaproject]

so last year in april i bought my 08 coupe used. the history was clear and they said it was in prestine condition and i thought i was getting a super good deal. shortly after i noticed the passenger door wasnt flush so i took it in and it was fixed no problem. they told me it was prolly the wind takin it and bending the hinge. over the winter my passenger side rear wheel well started to rust so i took it in to get it looked at for the corrosion warranty and they said it would be covered. So today i went to the shop to get the estimate for the dealership. thats when the guy tells me the reason my wheel well was rusting was bc it was just primer in there and on some of the other edges of that quarter panel and he even found more rust i hadn't. so he tells me he knows for a fact the car was in a wreck and nissan wont cover it. this monday im takin it to the BMW dealership i bought it from and ripping them a new a** hole!!! im soo pissed off bc im thinking it might not even have airbags bc i always noticed the airbag light goes on and off whenever but i figured someone prolly had taken off that piece with the vents to put in a new stereo maybe n it got messed up or something? idk but i seriously cannot believe this!!

[srwong]

which is why i never buy anything used.... personal preference. u never know if someone is telling u the truth.... sucks that that happened tho

[DJ_B_Easy]

i always noticed the airbag light goes on and off whenever

There was a recall for this, maybe the idiot driving it before you didnt get it fixed.

[mmx23z]

man... i feel for you!!
b4 my altima i had a used mazda 6, drove it for about 11 months & the engine went out.... blown engine outta no where, warranty covered it... & then 2 months later the transmission.... then i got my altima brand new & 2 yrs old next week without a problem

[nig1]

the title makes it sound like ur coupe had a secret past as a hooker hehehe. But yeah, sorry to hear that, shady dealership. Karma, son.

[Infinite-T]

Dude that is seriously messed up! Im no expert in this particular field, but i think that might fall under the umbrella of fraud. If they knowingly sold you a car that had been in a wreck and told you it hadn't been... Did they give you a carfax report, or did you have one done? Did the dealer give you title insurance? Are you financed thru a bank?

The downside I can see to this is: You have had the car over a year, they can claim that you did something to it. Also, being able to prove that they KNOWINGLY [lied] told you is was not in a wreck and it has been.

If you had a carfax report done and it came back clean, check to see if carfax has any type of garantee of accuracy. If they said it was clean, and it was not, maybe they have some kind of guarantee.. i dont know.

If you have title insurance, this may be covered under that. Did you have a title check? Was it reported wrecked, salaveged, lemon, rebuild, etc?

If you are financed thru a bank, you may be able to talk to them. Since they are the legal owners of the car (unless you paid cash or paid it off allready) They may be pissed and go after the dealer or W/E for loaning you money for a wrecked car.

I have a hard time believing that a dealer would not know a car had been wrecked when they get ready to sell it, they usually go over them pretty well, especially when they brought it on to thier lot. Im sure they would have checked that out and knew they they were buying a damaged car... even to resell it. I hope you don't get F***ed over.

If worse comes to worse, maybe it could be covered under your comp. insurance? That may be iffy too. Rust is something insurance usually wont do anything about.. but you could agrue the car is damn old enough to be rusting under natual conditions. But, insurance companies are always trying to find loopholes to get out of paying up.. Kinda funny, if you are a day late on your payment to them, they raise hell. But when it comes time for them to do their part, they drag their asses hard core.

Its probably a good idea to go to the dealer you bought it from and ask them WTF is going on. Stay clam about it, or they could claim you are just a crazed loony and ignore you or blow you off. Stay firm and strong. Dont let them walk all over you. Ask to talk directly to the manager that sold you the car and told you it was clear.. call him on it. If he isnt around, talk to the highest manager possible. Just maybe if they see you are reasonible (not a raving loony) but serious and cant be pushed around they will admit they F'd up and make it right. Let them know you are not going to take it lying down and will be talking to the bank, or the title company, or even an attourny. You are an unsatified customer and you want it made right! If you can have the dude that looked at it give you a statement on what he found and that he believed it to be wrecked (especially if that was a Nissan dealer you took it too) that may help your case. Treat it like a court case, have all your s*** together, walk into the dealer, lay it all out there and ask them what they are going to do about it. If they blow you off, its up to you.. you can suck it up and deal with it yourself, persue another avenue (insurance or something), or escalate the issue legaly.

I hope this helps and I hope you get things taken care of and dont get screwed by a shady-a** dealer.. Remember, consumers have the power, you chose to buy a car from them, and they are in buisness because others choose to buy from them. Go online to like google reviews and speak your mind, let the dealer know that you are speaking your mind, it may help. I have done this in the past. Even though my issues were smaller, after blowing me off, then seeing i was letting others know about it, THEY contacted ME, I got what I wanted, and some extra goodies too. A reputable company will want to make it right.


Sorry for this long post, but I hate to hear about this kind of s***. It has happened to me and some family members before (on a lesser scale) and standing up and calling them on it has always gotten results! Good luck!

[blackteam02]

Nice novel Infinite!

[mmkeller]

I agree with Infinite-T, Carfax should tell the history of the car but I've also heard it can have gaps in the history. Out of the 15 vehicles I've owned only 3 were used, 2 were from friends I knew took care of their cars and 1 was from my dad. I've only had one lemon out of all those and it was a 93 TBird.
It may come down to getting some advise from a lawyer. Sorry man, hope things work out and keep us posted.

[DJ_B_Easy]

I agree with Infinite as well....HOWEVER if the previous owner wrecked it and didnt claim it through insurance or even have it repaired at a shop then Carfax wont catch it.

Example: My previous vehicle was a Dodge Durango (kinda miss it at times!). One of the dealers from the dealership I bought it from was driving it as his personal vehicle before they sold it. He wrecked it, they repaired it in house. They told me that it had been in an accident, showed me where the damage was, and all was OK. I still made them give me a Carfax report and the dealer's accident and repair were NOT on it. When I brought it to my mechanic, he said the same thing the OPs mechanic did. From the undercarriage there was clearly visible body work and paint done. I already knew that, but he spotted it immediately. Food for thought...

Take Infinite's advice, play hardball, get it made right. Godspeed....

[sebaslatino]

Men dats real messed up wen I was lookin 4 a a car dis kid is peob around here in dis website lol tried 2 sell me his ac dat had a rebuild title 4 about 10k. It was nice only 14k miles 20' crome rims BUT I cldnt deal wit da rebuild title, he said he bought it from a miami dude who repaired it, suposely sum damage 2 da door an dey totaled dey car. Idk I cldnt trust it who knows if it was gun start messin up in da future den I woulda been screwed. So I just went an bought me. 2010 ac. It was kinda hard passin da good a** deal but I prob woulda end up payin 4 it in da future. Wit da new car I dnt hab 2 worry bout netin 4 a while so way more comfortable wit a new car

[Infinite-T]

I agree with Infinite as well....HOWEVER if the previous owner wrecked it and didnt claim it through insurance or even have it repaired at a shop then Carfax wont catch it.

That is a good point, and absolutly true. If the accident was never reported, and the repairs not done by a shop (which may be the case since it seems to be a half-a** repair), this wouldnt show up on carfax.

But i still think that there is no way the dealer he bought it from didn't know it had been wrecked. If they "bought" it or took it as a trade, they inspected the hell out of it, and unless they are real idiots, they saw the repair work, and knew it had been wrecked.

Then they sold it to this poor guy/gal and told him/her it was a good clean car!

[sjbaltimaproject]

thanx for the support guys im definatly not takin it lightly and im gunn take pictures and make a list of everything that i know is wrong with it or out of place. i personally think they know it was wrecked bc when i took it in bc the door wasnt flush with the body they fixed it know questions asked, just brought it in they didnt even inspect it they just pulled it into the shop when i showed up and was out in an hour.

for those of you that asked i did get a carfax and it was clean. the guy that found all this out at nissan told me he knows it wasnt professionally done. also i just noticed today and it never hit me before, on the passenger door is there supposed to be a key hole like on the driverside bc there isnt and that small piece that its supposed to be on isnt entirly flush with the rest of the handle?

oh yea, do you guys think it would be best if i took my underbody led kit off when i take it in so they cant say it might have been me that did something? also my interior leds ? that would be alot of pain in the a** work so i really dont wanna if i dont have to but idk if it would maybe be best.

[DJ_B_Easy]

I wouldnt worry about the lights. If anything just the exteriors because they might say "you installed these lights, why didnt you notice it and say something sooner?"

[Bretahn J.]

Hey man, you cant always trust CARFAX, but you can take the car to CARMAX and they will inspect it for you. Just act like you are trying to sell it to them. They dont want to by any cars that have been in accidents. Make sure you take it there when you are still in that thirty day window or what not. I experienced the same thing with my old car. Good luck man.

[PHENOMenalVinyl]

the title makes it sound like ur coupe had a secret past as a hooker hehehe. But yeah, sorry to hear that, shady dealership. Karma, son.

i thought he was gonna say he found pics of it on here then he joined lol woulda been kool

[obstacle]

carfax also doesn't list certain accidents/damages for up to a year or two, depending on the extent of damage, if and when the state released the info to public files, etc.

and that's if the owner claimed any damages/accident as DJBeasy said.

[sjbaltimaproject]

so do you guys think i would even have a case if the accident was never reported by the previous owner? obviously it wasnt but you would think the dealer would inspect the car. i left the manager a voicemail and he called back and told me that they wouldnt inspect it because the carfax was clean? that doesnt make sense to me because obviouly anyone could pay out of pocket to get something fixed then get rid of the car and it could be unsafe to drive.

[Infinite-T]

I think I would call on that one. As everyone has pointed out carfax isnt always accurate and up to date. Any dealer worth a damn would know that too. Besides it wouldnt report any mechanical issues the car might have. If they just run a car fax and say' "ok here's some money, or your new car" that would be really stupid. What if the engine had a cracked head, or the transmission was going out? Any time I have seen a car get traded in they go over it pretty well to decide how much they think it's worth, and they would be stupid not to.

Im sure they inspected it well enough to spot something like that!

[sjbaltimaproject]

yea thats what i think too. i already typed up an email explaining the whole situation in detail and sent it to my insurance agent who is gunna forward it to several attorneys that they work with and see what can be done about it. worse case im gunna end up droppin like 1000 dollars to get everything completly restored but best case scenario is i get them to fix everything and i sell it for a brand new one!

[sjbaltimaproject]

yea thats what i think too. i already typed up an email explaining the whole situation in detail and sent it to my insurance agent who is gunna forward it to several attorneys that they work with and see what can be done about it. worse case im gunna end up droppin like 1000 dollars to get everything completly restored but best case scenario is i get them to fix everything and i sell it for a brand new one!

[dangeris]

Just as someone stated, carfax is NOT always correct. A car can be in a serious accident and if the car was repaired by a shop in cash, you'd never see it in carfax! When I look at cars, I look at all the door jambs and hood/trunk latches and bolts to make sure that a wrench/socket was never put on them. If I see evidence that there was, I scrutinize the car even more..

[toxik]

Just as someone stated, carfax is NOT always correct. A car can be in a serious accident and if the car was repaired by a shop in cash, you'd never see it in carfax! When I look at cars, I look at all the door jambs and hood/trunk latches and bolts to make sure that a wrench/socket was never put on them. If I see evidence that there was, I scrutinize the car even more..

plus isnt there some kind of a tool that measures the levels of paint on each body panel, which tells you if the panel was repainted or not.

[sjbaltimaproject]

plus isnt there some kind of a tool that measures the levels of paint on each body panel, which tells you if the panel was repainted or not.

so r u guys sayin it shoulda been me who spotted these things or the dealership shoulda jw? it was my first time purchasing a car and i was really anxious so ik i shoulda taken all the things i saw off the bat into consideration. the attorneys still havent gotten back to me yet but im thinkin bout takin it to a collision center right down the street to see if they will insect the car for me and see if i find anything else wrong.