My car won't turn off completely!

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tigerclaws1318
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This use to happen like once every 3 months where when I turn off the car the screen would stay on. Now it's doing it pretty often. No idea what's going on with the car but when it happens all I can do is let the battery die and jump start the car. I recorded a video a while back of this happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMItEkx-Zpc

Can anyone tell me what's going on with the car?


tigerclaws1318
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DRAM reset?

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Ok thanks a lot.

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So it happened again today. Walked to my car with a dead battery. Jumped started it again and drove it around. The screen still wouldn't turn off but I get this message when I try to start the car.

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tigerclaws1318
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I did perform the procedure above and it didn't do anything besides making me set up my personal setting again. I guess I'm gonna have to take it to the dealership.

tigerclaws1318
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It's probably gonna cost and arm or leg to have them reprogram the system. =/

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Nope my warranty expired last april.

cruzad3r
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ok how about disconnect the system and leave it off for a while then reconnect and reboot. i'm thinking like a computer, after a hard reset/reboot thing will be fine again.

p.s - i haven't experienced this problem myself therefore i'm just guessing at the situation. please do not be mad if $h!t hit the fan :)

dr_scifi
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did you ever fix the problem?

Mine is doing something similar. It will start in neutral, or turn on, but wont turn off. I have to disconnect the batter everytime

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so are you guys putting the shifter in park? the car will not turn off if not in park. and if you replaced the shifter with an aftermarket one then it may not properly send the correct signal in park

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Thanks for your reply. This issue is driving me crazy. Most cars I have in the past, you can easily google for help. It is really hard for this car. So, I figured the issue may be on the park/neutral switch. I called the dealer, and they did not know where the switch is located but said it comes with shifter. I got a another shifter on ebay, but it seem different from mines. All the internal parts the same, and I saw a small ECU with the shift lock. I figure this was the park/neutral switch. I put it on, the car would not displace P... fo park. I will show me R N D and everything except for P. I then figured I still have the issue. I did recall once the car starts in neutral, it will not turn off. I guess I can try putting it on P to see if it turns off. I do recall it wouldn't shut off either and it had to do with the car not going on park. BAsed on your info, if car is not on park, it will not shut off on the 2006 M35x


I will either need another shifter, or take car to dealer cause something may be wrong with car ECU

What do you think?

dr_scifi
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Okay, I got the issue resolved. The PArk Neutral switch is inside the transmission. After fiddling with everything, I discovered all of this. The dealer and junk yard was no help!


The Rod slecter was off, so the car never went into park all the way. This is why it would not start on Park... or display a P on the display. The car was stuck between R and P. I just took the rod slecter off. Then adjust the nut under the shifter. Just bring it close to the tranny. Then it works!


I my car can now go to park, no issues.

I just need to fix the push start issue now, as the car wont stop if it is started. I believe the ignition switch prolly got damaged while messing with it.
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anotheraznguy
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glad you got it working!..

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dr_scifi wrote:Okay, I got the issue resolved.
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Great you got the issue fixed and actually took the few minutes to post the solution. I hate it when people don't post an update to a problem!

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So about the screen not turn off ? .. did you resolve that issue im havin the same problems

Ahz541
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dr_scifi wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:20 am
Okay, I got the issue resolved. The PArk Neutral switch is inside the transmission. After fiddling with everything, I discovered all of this.
I my car can now go to park, no issues.

I just need to fix the push start issue now, as the car wont stop if it is started. I believe the ignition switch prolly got damaged while messing with it.
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I have a 2013 Nissan Maxima, and I lost my only key so I had to have a locksmith come out to make me a new one. They couldn’t get a new one reprogrammed because every time they needed to power off the car it wouldn’t turn off when this specific fuse was plugged in. I had this issue a few months back and just had the fuse unplugged because my car wouldn’t turn off when it was in P. The problem is is now I have no key and no way to make a new one

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Failure to turn off during a key repro is almost always from the "detente switch" in the shifter being stuck on. This is usually caused by aftermarket foam knob covers depressing the lever. It's also possible the detente actuator shaft inside the tubular shifter shaft is hung or has a broken return spring. If the problem isn't external (i.e., a knob cover), it will show up on CONSULT3+ as a detente switch that doesn't change states when the lever is pressed. This can be checked in either the BCM or IPDM, both devices monitor the detente signal.

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Thank you so much!

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You're most welcome, hope it helps you out.

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VStar650CL wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:52 am
Failure to turn off during a key repro is almost always from the "detente switch" in the shifter being stuck on. This is usually caused by aftermarket foam knob covers depressing the lever. It's also possible the detente actuator shaft inside the tubular shifter shaft is hung or has a broken return spring. If the problem isn't external (i.e., a knob cover), it will show up on CONSULT3+ as a detente switch that doesn't change states when the lever is pressed. This can be checked in either the BCM or IPDM, both devices monitor the detente signal.
So this makes a lot of sense because when I got the car the shifter knob wouldn’t stay on. So I just ordered one online but it just kind of sits on there there’s no button to push I just have to slide the shaft into whichever position. So it sounds like the broken return spring might be an issue. I am not car savvy or a mechanic or anything, just a single mom trying to figure something out so I don’t have to pay an arm and a leg to a dealership. Is this something you think I could fix on my own? Even though I don’t have a key?

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With the knob off, the switch will be on all the time. The knob actually depresses the switch to "off", then the lever lets the shaft rise to the "on" position when you press it, pushed upward by the return spring. Tell the locksmith to tape the plastic shaft into the down position during key reprogramming, then it will program normally.

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VStar650CL wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:18 pm
With the knob off, the switch will be on all the time. The knob actually depresses the switch to "off", then the lever lets the shaft rise to the "on" position when you press it, pushed upward by the return spring. Tell the locksmith to tape the plastic shaft into the down position during key reprogramming, then it will program normally.
You are a lifesaver!

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Happy to help. Have a great New Year!


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