(My Baby Works!) Pic's of my Mani, Wastegate, and more!

[Red-KAT]

So not much to talk about except I love this car so much... After driving other cars for 3 weeks it is bliss to drive mine again.

On with the pic's Tell me what you think... Other points of view are always welcome... Unless you suck...



This is why I'm Red-KAT... Nothing to do with my car color.

I think thats the AC line it kinda touches? I hate it... It will die next time the mani's off.

Nice way to block the HUGE empty space the old WG was in.

Who said the black was bad idea? I like it ya schmuck! kinda... black...

hehe... I took the front plate off the wash under it... Bad idea.. the clips were broke and the damn thing wont go back on... Guss I have to go rice and have it in my window.

Got Intercooler? I need a better bumper so this thing can breath...

I know the E-01 stick way out sitting there... But its got warning lights I would like to see...

Hehe... They did nto have my car at the shop when they made this... So I needed to mod it a little to fit... Other then that its bad-***!

Got 2 new 2" connectors and the T-Bolt clamps from atbturbo.com <-Someone tell them to advertise here... they ship ultra fast!

My Areomotive hangin with the greddy pressure sensor.

Hmm no point to this shot...

Happy show... And I'm so glad the damn thing runs like a champ!

[S14tat]

wow your old!! j/p anyways that new setup looks waay better then the original greddy setup, and i love that flex pipe for wastegate dump. how does the car feel compared to the old setup?

[Red-KAT]

It sure spools a lot faster with this wastegate... I'm going to re-run the vacuum line from the intake manifold to see what that does... I think it should increase my spool by adding more vacuum to hold it shut.. It will also get my boost closer to the spring setting... With the wastegate pressure right off the turbo the intake only shows 6psi... So I'm at a 1.25psi loss... through my system...

its also nice to be able to dile a # into the EBC and have it work... I set it to add 65% and it got me close to 10psi with a 7psi start point I can hit full boost fast. I just need to set my gain and all will be good.

[TurboKA37]

After seeing you talk about this in your older thread i was interested in this type of set-up. i got screwed over awhile back with the hopupracing turbo kit but bought the E-01 in anticipation of tuning with the emanage. Anyways, the greddy kit is a possible choice ive been looking at but didnt like the internal wastegate and a few other minor things that can be changed/added. i'm glade that this worked out for you and am interested to see how it holds up. if you dont mind me asking, how much did it cost to get external wastegate work done to the manifold. btw, i would probably run an open dumb. thanks

[TurboKA37]

oh, and forgot to add, is the plate blocking off the internal wastegate inside the turbo necessary?

[D-UNIT]

Wow that looks really great. Where did you get that elbow running into the intake manifold? That is exactly how I what to run my boost pipe, so I don't have to relocate my battery. How come you moved yours?

[Red-KAT]

$375 for the custom fab up.... He had to build up the surface of the mani with nickel in order to get a large enough flat spot.

all in all I think I got to near $900 for this side issue... That's all new studs, nuts, and other little things. **** just exhaust gaskets are $10 each from the dealer.

And yes the Block off plate inside the turbo was a must... My flapper broke off and unless I left a 20mm hole open all the time it had to be done. (better then adding a flapper)

Also I wanted it routed back to the exhaust because I am tired of the noise... I also added a Catco CAT just to prevent noise. so tired of the stupid droning... Its way better now.

Stay away from the Greddy kit... This is just a fix for a poor design... And bad judgment on my part.

[TurboKA37]

yea, i noticed the weld added to the manifold. thanks for the help man

[Red-KAT]

Wow that looks really great. Where did you get that elbow running into the intake manifold? That is exactly how I what to run my boost pipe, so I don't have to relocate my battery. How come you moved yours?

All the intercooler stuff came with the Greddy intercooler package... It can be had for about 700... Try http://www.EnjukuRacing.com <- Where I got mine.

I moved my battery in preps to go turbo... As you can see I didn't need to... Once I get a new mani/turbo setup I'm going to have all new pipes made that will take the battery spot up... (Also my catch can will go there)... I don't like these intercooler tubes they are hard to put on and off... Not like I take them off all the time... But that's not the point.

EDIT: And btw I will be 24 on the 25th... So I'm not that old... I just dislike shaving...

[S14tat]

so you would never recommend the greddy kit to anyone? i'm kinda disapointed becasue they make excellent honda kits. oh wellz. how much power do you think your making?

[d-ta]

I think thats the AC line it kinda touches? I hate it... It will die next time the mani's off.

yep, that's the a/c line. mine's does the same thing. anyways, setup is lookin' nice.

[93240sxS13frontend]

how many miles were on your car before you added your turbo???

[Red-KAT]

so you would never recommend the greddy kit to anyone? i'm kinda disapointed becasue they make excellent honda kits. oh wellz. how much power do you think your making?

I have run into so many issues that are going to need addressed...

I'll list them out.

1: The Greddy Mani is hard to install. You cant torque it down right and a short 14mm is needed for the bottom 3 nuts due to the Manifold blocking access.

2: The wastegate does not let upgrade your exhaust. Its to small to flow correctly... If I had a built engine and larger injectors it would be fine I guess.

3: The intercooler piping rubs on the small power steering line (mine wore through it) it also hits the AC stuff and wore through the plastic cap on the discharge nipple. The 1st bend is almost rubbed through the pipe due to the power steering. The second pipe is rubbing on the body because the engine movement... So that's going to blow out soon. The left side of the pipes seem to be doing fine...

4: The E-Manage is a ***** to tune... I am starting to get my AFR's in order again but it takes forever unless you hit the dyno.

I did pull some timing... WD posted you don't need to back off timing before 8psi so I took all my timing out of 6psi and did -2 at 7 and -4 at 8 -6 above 8... The car scoots allot faster... ( I need something to read my total timing...)

I think I was near 120k when I did mine... And I use to red line it all the time... Now I'm close to 140k I think... so almost 20k on the kit... And now I can redline more!

EDIT: ohh and my 1st dyno I got like 193hp out of 8psi with a poor tune... That will almost make you cry after spending 2900 on the kit 1200 exhaust and 700 intercooler... and 500 for the Profec E-01...

[S14tat]

oh damn, theres soo many bad things about it. i wonder if greddy ever addressed these issues? i mean they took forever for that kit to come out, and it turns out to be rubbish. ( no offense ) hmmm

[Red-KAT]

They quote 220hp at 6psi for this kit...

If I sat down and spent some cash on tuning I might be able to hit that.

[Jookmasta]

what size tubo does that come with again? i also have to complement that cold pipe for not having to relocate the battery. whats the diameter of it? also what do u mean that the wastegate doesnt allow u to upgrade the exhaust?

[Red-KAT]

what size tubo does that come with again? i also have to complement that cold pipe for not having to relocate the battery. whats the diameter of it? also what do u mean that the wastegate doesnt allow u to upgrade the exhaust?

1: Its a TD06-20G said to be able to pump 400hp... We will see...

2: I don't know the Cold pipe size off the top my head. It changed throughout the connections.

3: What I mean is... The kit was made to use the stock exhaust... Which means you have a good amount of back pressure fighting the turbo. This in turn enables you to run a small wastegate (The 20G has a 20mm wategate). When you take away to much back pressure off the exhaust system it enables the turbo to spool faster, but now the wastegate needs to pick up the slack by dumping more air... The 20mm wastegate does not have enough flow to keep the turbo from pumping 14psi... And that was only at 5k... If I would have held the gas who knows what would have happened...

Also there is not enough metal to port in this turbo to make it worth while to even try... You could take out 1mm - 2mm tops... That would give 10-20% more flow... But I felt I needed more then that.

[:: orion ::]

Looking good...glad to see you're getting it all fixed.

- Brian

[boringdrifter]

it's looking good, can't wait to take my ka apart and build it up

[fast_s14]

Nice job on your turbo set up. Do you like the Profec E-01? Is it worth the moneY?

[Dattebayo]

Keep the car & turbo, shave the beard.You could get alot out of that mod...

[DammitBobby]

Wow Red that is some interesting modifications. It looks like a PITA to work on and I was complaining because I have to use allen screws for the wastegate! I attached a pic of my setup BD wastegate. The more I work on this car and read other post the more I like my setup.

[Red-KAT]

Nice job on your turbo set up. Do you like the Profec E-01? Is it worth the moneY?

Well the diff with and without it is huge... it makes my car spool a lot faster.

Keep the car & turbo, shave the beard.You could get alot out of that mod...

I like it... it keeps the girls away for now :P. Or I could just talk about D&D... that always makes em leave.

Wow Red that is some interesting modifications. It looks like a PITA to work on and I was complaining because I have to use allen screws for the wastegate! I attached a pic of my setup BD wastegate. The more I work on this car and read other post the more I like my setup.

Are you saying my setup is ****!?!? j/k

Yeah its a pain in my *** to work on. One day... one day. It will be better.

[Jookmasta]

i just realized myself that when the cold pipe is ran like that, where does the BOV mount? my cold pipe will be ran like urs but im gonna have to get the BOV placed on the hotpipe due to the serious lack of room on the cold pipe. also i know you had to remove another resonator in the front to get the cold pipe down there........was that hard to remove? i kinda forgot to take that out b/f getting the car to the muffler shop so we will see how that goes. kudos to u for making it work.

o ya, what is that that u used to wrap ur ac line in? ur wastegate is touching it, but that line was in the way for my oil return line (needless to say the oil return line is magically on there due to my friend's expertise)

[DammitBobby]

Mine is located on the hot side.

[D-UNIT]

This might sound like a stupid question , but it is an honest one. Is that intercooler in your sig from the KA Greddy kit?

[Red-KAT]

i just realized myself that when the cold pipe is ran like that, where does the BOV mount? my cold pipe will be ran like urs but im gonna have to get the BOV placed on the hotpipe due to the serious lack of room on the cold pipe. also i know you had to remove another resonator in the front to get the cold pipe down there........was that hard to remove? i kinda forgot to take that out b/f getting the car to the muffler shop so we will see how that goes. kudos to u for making it work.

o ya, what is that that u used to wrap ur ac line in? ur wastegate is touching it, but that line was in the way for my oil return line (needless to say the oil return line is magically on there due to my friend's expertise)

Its just cloth heat wrap... You can get it from summitracing. and the Item near the coldpipe that had to move... The Greddy kit came with a bracket to move it forward...

This might sound like a stupid question , but it is an honest one. Is that intercooler in your sig from the KA Greddy kit?

Yes... I like the intercooler... But not the hotpipe's...

[pr240sx]

As for the wastegate, can you run a pipe and move the wastegate lower.I plan to install a external wastegate on a cast iron manifold but I have no space to put the wategateWill this work?

[Red-KAT]

I dont see why this would not work...

[Jookmasta]

so it came with a bracket to move that resonator???? if you wouldnt mind showing pics or explaining a little more, id greatly appreciate. This may help speed up the making of my cold pipe at the muffler shop