My answer to increasing fuel mileage and cleaning emmisions..........

[redmanfx]

Just add 3 ounces of acetone per 10 gallons of gas!! Simple.... OH and the government is wrong--- Acetone does not evaporate from gasoline!!!!!! So why hasn't there been a push for this addition of acetone in gas from producers????

Good Question.. I suggest research because you'll be blown away. Here is just a scratch..http://www.pureenergysystems.c...etone/Did you know that research on this has been covered up? Serious, it has.

It's already in gas cleaners. What say you chemist out there?

[Desmoquattro]

Two things - what kind of effect does an extra does of acetone have on your fuel system? Lines, o-rings, etc. If it's going to eat into your rubber bits, ala ethanol, it's not a great idea.

Second, didn't Mythbusters try it without any appreciable results, along with all the other fuel-economy quick-fixes?

Really, if you worry about fuel economy you are driving the wrong car...

[Haitian_King]

Just add 3 ounces of acetone per 10 gallons of gas!! Simple.... OH and the government is wrong--- Acetone does not evaporate from gasoline!!!!!! So why hasn't there been a push for this addition of acetone in gas from producers????

Good Question.. I suggest research because you'll be blown away. Here is just a scratch..http://www.pureenergysystems.c...etone/Did you know that research on this has been covered up? Serious, it has.

It's already in gas cleaners. What say you chemist out there?

Isn't acetone harmful to rubber and plastics? How would the injectors react to it? Maybe initially, it won't do too much harm, but over time, I think the fuel lines will be eaten away or suffer some sort of damage. http://www.digg.com/mods/Aceto...leage

I'm not really much of a complainer about gas and mileage. If I was, I wouldn't drive a Q. Only 92 or higher goes in it. I also live in Jersey. Cheap gas, and I don't have to pump it.

If gas prices are really affecting your way of living, it's either time to get a more "fuel-efficient" car or ask for that raise.

These cars were built to compete with Mercedes-Benz and BMW V8 sedans. You wouldn't toss acetone and apint thinner into their tanks. Why treat the Q any different? Because it's a Nissan?

I think methods like acetone and other solvents to improve mileage and fuel effiency are more harmful to an older vehicle like a VH45DE equipped Q and are more suited to the newer engine designs. I don't think the Engineer-Sans at Nissan envisioned gas prices going this high when designing this engine.

[maxnix]

Old thread with extensive posts.

Been there, done that.

[bullittandy]

I heard it whitens teeth too.

Ideas like this also should include a link to an explanation of the "placebo effect."

[qship96]

Hey, cocaine will help you lose weight too.

[Haitian_King]

Hey, cocaine will help you lose weight too.

If only it didn't kill.

Save a couple bucks or increase the frequency of fuel system component replacements?

Tough call.

[Desmoquattro]

Oh man, I just read through the whole discussion on Diggs and I have to say, there is a lot of BS still floating around. Someone quotes the infamous Pogue 200 mpg carburettor hoax as a fact! Bahahaha.

This is great, everything this guy claims is complete nonsense:

"I read an article in a Popular Hot Rodding magazine in 1979. It showed was to improve gas mileage in your gas guzzling V8. I tried most of what they said. FACT: My mileage in my 1967 Plymouth Fury III with the 383 PI went from 8 MPG at 50-55 mph to 27 MPG at 50-55. FACT: I put a tornado in my 1993 Ford Taurus SHO, my mileage jumped from 17 MPG to 21 MPG. I created a straight tube out of PVC for my 1983 Toyota Supra, which everyone said would not work and I needed to purchase a custom made tube for 200$. My mileage jumped from 21 MPG to 24 MPG, also the throttle response jumped and I gained an addition 5mph on a speed test. In 1936 there was a carburetor that was designed and placed on a 1935 Ford model T. This carburetor heated the fuel up and help to vaporize the fuel before it was ignited in the combustion chamber. This carburetor achieved 205 mpg. There is still information about this floating around the Internet. I believe that an oil company in Canada purchased the patent for it. Obviously it was buried. Someone mentioned using Slick 50, I've been using that product and others like if for years, and have never had and engine ruined nor an oil filter clog up on me."Pogue Carburrettor 1936http://www.snopes.com/autos/bu...r.aspAcetone mythhttp://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/acetone.aspFred Rau's article on "Snake Oil" additiveshttp://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/snakeoil.htm
Modified by Desmoquattro at 10:53 PM 2/9/2008

[StarPD]

P.T. Barnum was wrong.There's a sucker born every second, not every minute..

[bullittandy]

The thing that keeps ideas like this going is the fact that most of these claims are possible (improved MPG, more power etc etc) its just that nobody would pay for them.

Want to improve mileage drastically? Make the entire car out of aluminum, save 500-750 lbs. Or maybe make the unseen crap in the dash out of aluminum, or even better, titanium.

Does anybody know how much the bottom half of a front seat from a 97 Q weighs? 40 lbs!!! That's no seat back, just bottom, motors and structure. you should see all the metal bits that support the dash, easily another 100 lbs.

If it costs money then the interest goes away, the only thing that sparks this kind of interest is the idea that the crap sitting on the shelf works wonders and that combines with the few random reports about when the govenrment actually lies to us-like Iraq and then the conspiracies start showing up.

[redmanfx]

Acetone does increase gas mileage, but not by 40 mpg.. heheh. My girlfriend back in the states has increased her gas mileage by 4 - 5 mpg since adding it in her 01 concord. went from 23 mpg to just about 28, no joke. So that would be an extra 80-100 miles per tank and that is nothing to scough at. When I get back stateside I will dig up the article the scientist guy from Shell oil did about his 8 year study of acetone. It included the "eating" of rubber and o-ring issue and the false "harmful" effects of it. It simply makes your fuel burn better by what?, 30 to 40% and disposes less harmful emissions then gas with no additives. It doesn't evaporate in gas like folkes believe and it is not expensive.

It's not super duper end all pollution, and save the planet thing but worth checking out. It won't give you 50 mpg gas mileage, but it can give you 2-5 mpg more............ It won't destroy your injectors either.

I haven't seen many discussions on it here so sorry if this threads offends the eyes of some of you "old" nico peeps. heheheheh

I'm in Iraq training Iraqies how to run heavy equipment without the proper replacement parts and will be back home at the end of Feb.

later

[96Qowner]

I haven't seen many discussions on it here so sorry if this threads offends the eyes of some of you "old" nico peeps. heheheheh

No offense - use it if you like it. Here's a long thread from when we discussed it before - lots of us tried it:

zerothread?id=121067

Didn't work for me at all.

[Haitian_King]

Acetone does increase gas mileage, but not by 40 mpg.. heheh. My girlfriend back in the states has increased her gas mileage by 4 - 5 mpg since adding it in her 01 concord . went from 23 mpg to just about 28, no joke. So that would be an extra 80-100 miles per tank and that is nothing to scough at. When I get back stateside I will dig up the article the scientist guy from Shell oil did about his 8 year study of acetone. It included the "eating" of rubber and o-ring issue and the false "harmful" effects of it. It simply makes your fuel burn better by what?, 30 to 40% and disposes less harmful emissions then gas with no additives. It doesn't evaporate in gas like folkes believe and it is not expensive.

It's not super duper end all pollution, and save the planet thing but worth checking out. It won't give you 50 mpg gas mileage, but it can give you 2-5 mpg more............ It won't destroy your injectors either.

I haven't seen many discussions on it here so sorry if this threads offends the eyes of some of you "old" nico peeps. heheheheh

I'm in Iraq training Iraqies how to run heavy equipment without the proper replacement parts and will be back home at the end of Feb.

later

That says it all. American car, about 5 years older than the last G50. On the inside of the fuel door panel in says Premium Fuel Only. Acetone may work on that sort of engine. Probably not so well for an older Japanese luxury car. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

The gains from the acetone (maybe a 3-4 mpg gain) need to seriously outweigh the costs of fuel system/engine repair. If you're struggling for 3-4 miles per gallon, either you're not making enough money or you need to give up the Q.

[Denver90Q]

Yes, you are right. I have observed a 5-10% improvement when using acetone. Also have noted slight improvement in performance. Just bought a gallon for $8 which should treat about 1000 gallons of gas. If I only save 50 gallons out of the next 1000 a pretty good investment. I keep a small bottle in trunk which I add to gas at fillup.

Unlikely to have any negative effect since the concentration is only about 1/10th of 1%. Much less than ethanol or methanol at 10% and I believe these to be more aggressive solvents i.e. harmful. You should replace all fuel hoses with viton lined anyway to be on the safe side.

BTW, thanks for your service.

QUOTE=redmanfx]Acetone does increase gas mileage, but not by 40 mpg.. heheh. My girlfriend back in the states has increased her gas mileage by 4 - 5 mpg since adding it in her 01 concord. went from 23 mpg to just about 28, no joke. So that would be an extra 80-100 miles per tank and that is nothing to scough at. When I get back stateside I will dig up the article the scientist guy from Shell oil did about his 8 year study of acetone. It included the "eating" of rubber and o-ring issue and the false "harmful" effects of it. It simply makes your fuel burn better by what?, 30 to 40% and disposes less harmful emissions then gas with no additives. It doesn't evaporate in gas like folkes believe and it is not expensive.

It's not super duper end all pollution, and save the planet thing but worth checking out. It won't give you 50 mpg gas mileage, but it can give you 2-5 mpg more............ It won't destroy your injectors either.

I haven't seen many discussions on it here so sorry if this threads offends the eyes of some of you "old" nico peeps. heheheheh

I'm in Iraq training Iraqies how to run heavy equipment without the proper replacement parts and will be back home at the end of Feb.

later[/QUOTE]

[Q45tech]

At least it probably won't cause any major harm* if you premix it with 2 gallons of gasoline before you pour into tank.

*probably less than 10% ethanol will cause.

Just too tough to disuade urban legends when people want to dream.

The converse must be considered where a minority of people might want to inflict harm, but unlikely.

[Rex]

Been there discussed that, it goes no where.