My 94 GTR... all tuned up and ready for unvailing. :)

[Tofubadguy]

So I really wanted one regardless if I could ever legally drive it or not, or if I had to keep it on another planet, which you can see in the pics, I have and is the Planet PX1186...

I hear they have autocross/lap battle stuff there... so I'm good with that. Even better, "NASA" holds the events so tranportation is figured out too!

Firstly some pics from the Tiger lot the day they recieved it and the day I bought it, same day.

Secondly a few pics on the day it was delivered to me on Planet PX1186.

Lastly a few pics over at UMS Tuning, coincidentally in a town called Phoenix on Planet PX1186, with my new wheels and tires eventually intended for my 89' 240SX RB26 project. Where we found out that a jump to 10psi, an Apexi Power FC, and a little more fuel will make 345hp on their AWD dyno with no other changes from stock.

Sshhhhhh..... It's sleeping.

So, I figured I'd give Tiger yet another chance since the clip I got from them was in really good shape. It has good compression in the 160's. Oil pressure 60+psi cold, 30+ hot idle. The car, other than some white paint transfer near the gas flap from I assume another car, is in awesome condition. The interior is super clean, everything works and looks nearly new. Whoever had this took very good care of it. There is no rust at all anywhere, it has what equates to 64,000mi on it..... and I can't believe I waited so long.

Russell


Modified by Tofubadguy at 3:30 PM 12/10/2009

[Doya]

How did you get this imported. I thought it wasn't possible to do that.

[Tofubadguy]

How did you get this imported. I thought it wasn't possible to do that.

I do believe you're correct. I hear the same thing. So, I had to ship it to Planet PX1168 for the mean time! I thought I mentioned it in my post...

Russell

edit--- Really though, if you search function my user name you'll only find a handful of topics I've piped in on, and on page 19 of the 'So you want to buy a Skyline in the US....' thread, my thoughts on one way in particular to gain possession and ownership with a bill of sale. It is in fact risky, and in the end won't fullfill most peoples hopes as an owner. It however works well for me as things stand now.

Heck with a bit of luck, this house of precariously stacked and unsustainable financial cards will come to a conclusion... and the motor vehicle Stazi with it. hopefully next time we'll get it right, maybe even elect a Ron Paul or better yet a Rand Paul or even better still take a page from Lysander Spooner and do without a guardian at all.

Ah... dreams of peaceful voluntary action amonst free consenting people, where victimless crimes no longer exsist.

Russell


Modified by Tofubadguy at 1:52 AM 12/23/2009

[1cardude]

I do believe you're correct. I hear the same thing. So, I had to ship it to Planet PX1168 for the mean time! I thought I mentioned it in my post...

Am I not getting the PLanetPX1168 thing?

[Chattzx]

kinda a random question but is high oil pressure a good thing? for instance starting and it being at 60psi

[Gold Digger]

kinda a random question but is high oil pressure a good thing? for instance starting and it being at 60psi

Oil pressure is always high on cold start up. It takes a few minutes for the engine to reach operating temp, and from there the oil heats up and starts to "thin" out, for lack of better words.

My R runs about 4kgs at start up and at temp runs about 2kgs at idle. Of course, when you are raising the RPMs during acceleration, the pressure goes back up. You want to make sure you are getting oil to the vital parts of your engine.

[AZ89two4Tsx]

Awesome dude, hope I see you around.

[Chattzx]

Oil pressure is always high on cold start up. It takes a few minutes for the engine to reach operating temp, and from there the oil heats up and starts to "thin" out, for lack of better words.

My R runs about 4kgs at start up and at temp runs about 2kgs at idle. Of course, when you are raising the RPMs during acceleration, the pressure goes back up. You want to make sure you are getting oil to the vital parts of your engine.

btw a side note your R33 is gorgeous bro! where did you get it from ?

[Tofubadguy]

Oil pressure is always high on cold start up. It takes a few minutes for the engine to reach operating temp, and from there the oil heats up and starts to "thin" out, for lack of better words.

My R runs about 4kgs at start up and at temp runs about 2kgs at idle. Of course, when you are raising the RPMs during acceleration, the pressure goes back up. You want to make sure you are getting oil to the vital parts of your engine.

Yeah, what Gold Digger said. With the addition that the difference between cold start up pressure at idle and hot at idle can tell you a lot. It's why I mentioned it.

Different engines with different oiling systems, different oil pump designs, etc... can behave a little different from each other, but one thing is pretty common to them all. Depending on oil thickness, it's viscosity, you can get a good guess what your internal clearances are, and thus about how worn out your bearings and oil pressure barrier components are.

Less pressure to the gauge doesn't always mean shot bearings though. If there is a break in the barrier, the path it follows, it may only mean that there is an oil pressure drop just before the gauge somewhere. I'm new to the RB's so I don't know the exact oil flow path from the pump just yet, but as an example I had a 429cj with a wiped rear cam bearing that lost almost all the remaining oil pressure before it hit the gauge. I thought something catastrophic had happened but when I pulled it apart everything was perfect except that bearing. The cam was hardly marked at all, just a few fine lines. Could have just been a bad bearing whose babbitt separated and flowed right on out... Not sure though. I'd hate to admit that it may not have been replaced at all and I over looked the shops instillation of the cam bearings where I sent the block to be vatted and have them installed. A possibility though I suppose. Still think something cycled through it to get that far into the copper though. Anyhow, long story short, the engines oil side wasn't worn out, just one rear cam bearing right before the gauge, so the gauge read scary.

Generally speaking though, and having lots of experience racing with the Toyota 20R, 22R and 22RE variants with their planetary gear oil pump, if they start up fairly high with a regular weight oil say Valvoline 20/w50 and don't drop much or at least not below 30psi then it has a decent lower end. I always ran straight 50w Valvoline in my 22R's and built the engines for 70psi cold idle and 30psi hot after a race. At 7,500 RPM, my rev limiter, it be at about 90+. So like Gold Digger said, it will/should come up with the revs.

I have seen some odd stuff from time to time though on friends cars. Like a blockage (silicone and gunk) to the gauge line acting as a check valve of sorts. Pressure slow to build at the gauge and extra slow to bleed off when you shut the engine off. As slow as it was to build pressure I had originally though it was just worn out, but that would have meant it should have dumped gauge pressure really fast if that were the case due to the lack of back pressure because of extra clearance. We pulled the fitting in the block and I took a small drill bit and extracted a clump of silicone. Dumped an extra quart in and had him fire it up to flush the line out. Hooked it all backup and everything was just as we hoped... back to normal.

You can also see a bit of behavior differences between oils. Standard heavy oil can have a high start up pressure but then drop off at high temps more so than a fairly heavy synthetic would. Example is my 460 truck motor with regular 20/w50 starts at 65psi and hot idle at 35psi, but with full synthetic 20/w50 it starts at 58psi and hot idle at 40psi. A lot less of a swing and a lot more enjoyable to see.

I think of most of my stuff as equipment, my 'upbringing' I suppose, so I'm always a gauge watcher. Always listening for sounds, hiccups, vibrations and anything unexpected. Plus the last 15 or so years working in all types of industry has taught me a lot. Your equipment talks to you and an early warning sign of eminent doom, lots of work and broken parts can be seen in the gauges if you know the behavior of the machine and what it normally does in differing circumstances. Noticeable variances from that means it's asking for some attention because something is happening that probably isn't good...

On another note though, I have seen rock solid engines with what I would normally consider 'fairly low oil pressure'. Chevy small block V8's most often. It's just there design... 30 to 40 cold and 10 hot is common. There's still oil to the gauge and it has pressure! With those motors that's a win!

In short though, What ever I have that get serious use, I want to see 60-ish cold and at the very least 20 hot idle, if not then I'm pulling it apart to fix it. Hope these ramblings may help and give you a few different avenues to see the oil pressure story from.
Modified by Tofubadguy at 10:40 PM 1/23/2010

[Tofubadguy]

Also, I forgot to mention, a handy thing to have if you really like knowing what you pressures are doing and where, install two gauges. One for the lower end after the crank bearings and one in the head after the cam bearings if possible. I've found that the crank pressures (the important stuff) stay fairly good and most of the lose at the gauge is lost volume traveling to the top and through the cam(s). This difference will be very noticeable on oil restricter motors, which purposely keep volume and inevitably pressure on the crank side.

Just a thought anyway.

I always thought it was weird that high blood pressure was bad... because doesn't low blood pressure mean you have excessive clearances?

[Chattzx]

i see i was just wondering if 60 psi was good at startup because thats what my 300ZX shows at cold startup and i run mobil 1 5W-30 synthetic

[Tofubadguy]

Sounds good to me brother!

On another note... 345hp was kind of a ceiling we hit when I was at UMSTuning the time before last. My 440's were at 95% duty cycle. I also got something wrong in a previous post above about the boost. We were at 13psi not 10.

I took out the 440's and put in the DeatschWerks 870's I got from RawBrokerage. Went back to UMS this last Monday and we ran it again. Wound up with a duty cycle just north of 50%, upped the boost to high 15's with a manual boost controller and pulled 360hp and 335 torque.

Tony said we coulda probably seen near 400hp but we were limited by the stock turbo flow pretty much at that point. That the next jump in power = some $. Turbos, cams, down pipes and exhaust. I told him I was very happy staying in a very safe power zone with this car and with a generally speaking factory setup.

The coming 240RB project however... I want to see a solid 425hp with head room. It'll be my crazy street car... no sense in holding back on that one.

Here's a couple pics...

All the guys there are really great. They take the time and answer all the dumb questions, explaining things so you really understand what's going on too. I got the impression that they liked that someone cared what was going on and wanted to know the stuff. I was running really late that day and didn't get there till mid afternoon. They stayed open late to finish the car and get everything just right so I could leave with it that night. Which was awesome since I live far on the other side of the Phoenix world.

Wound up staying there till about 7:30 just chatting with Tony, Jeremy and a couple of their friends about a bunch of stuff including the NASA autocross and solo events. I'm really looking forward to doing that. I was always a decent driver on dirt and asphalt 1/4 mile oval stuff in $1000 junk. I hope a real car helps instead of hurts! It should be fun regardless.

[Gold Digger]

btw a side note your R33 is gorgeous bro! where did you get it from ?

Thanks! I bought it in Yokohama. It was about an hour drive from my home in Saitama prefecture.The shop I bought it from replaced the MAFS and re-smoked the rear glass before driving it to my house.

I had always wanted a Midnight Purple R33 GT-R, and now I own one.

[Chattzx]

oh dang so you live in japan eh? what are you doing over there are you from the US?

[Gold Digger]

Yeah. I am American with a JDM wife.I was stationed here in the Navy from 97-01, got out, got married, lived in the U.S. from 01-04 then moved here so my wife could be close to her family.I teach English.

[Chattzx]

Yeah. I am American with a JDM wife.I was stationed here in the Navy from 97-01, got out, got married, lived in the U.S. from 01-04 then moved here so my wife could be close to her family.I teach English.

very cool how do you like it over there? what is it like having a language barrier like that?

[AZhitman]

Hey Russ!

My car was there when yours was... I think mine rolled out to make room on the dyno for you.

Tony's a great guy. UMS rocks.

[Tofubadguy]

Hey Russ!

My car was there when yours was... I think mine rolled out to make room on the dyno for you.

Tony's a great guy. UMS rocks.

What did you have there?

I looked at a really nice blue R32 for a good while. I sure hope the engine bay in my 240 project winds up that clean looking! I need to learn how to eliminate all the insane heater hose, vacuum tubing and oil cooler birds nest under the RB26 intake manifold. Make a nice clean loom for only what is really needed, etc. Go with a remote filter and cooler setup too. That'd be a big step.

Russell

[Gold Digger]

very cool how do you like it over there? what is it like having a language barrier like that?

Not much of a language barrier for me. I speak a fair amount of Japanese and can read hiragana and katakana.

I enjoy it over here. Pretty laid back most of the time, and the highways are a blast to drive, even if you do have to pay to get on them. Oh well, as long as I stay in the Tokyo area, I only have to pay once to get on and I am good.

It's cheaper than going to a circuit and spending over 100 bucks for 30 minutes worth of laps.

I spend 7 bucks and can cruise around for hours, and deal with other cars. Great practice...lol.

[Chattzx]

Not much of a language barrier for me. I speak a fair amount of Japanese and can read hiragana and katakana.

I enjoy it over here. Pretty laid back most of the time, and the highways are a blast to drive, even if you do have to pay to get on them. Oh well, as long as I stay in the Tokyo area, I only have to pay once to get on and I am good.

It's cheaper than going to a circuit and spending over 100 bucks for 30 minutes worth of laps.

I spend 7 bucks and can cruise around for hours, and deal with other cars. Great practice...lol.

man i would love to go to tokyo one day it would be a blast i hear the road systems are terrific as well. did you learn japanese when u moved there? i hear its difficult to learn

[Gold Digger]

man i would love to go to tokyo one day it would be a blast i hear the road systems are terrific as well.

WOW...that's the longest three sentence sentence I've seen in a while...lol.

The road systems are a bit confusing because for one, their address system is a complete mess. In the U.S., they use street names, and houses have numbers.Over here, they give an area a name and a number, then assign houses in that area a number, but not individually.

For example, the four houses on my street all have the same address...1462-2 Kisone. So, the post guy has to find the names on the mail boxes out front. It sucks, really.

I have learned my Japanese while living here, and learn more and more as time goes on. It is a hard language.

[Chattzx]

WOW...that's the longest three sentence sentence I've seen in a while...lol.

The road systems are a bit confusing because for one, their address system is a complete mess. In the U.S., they use street names, and houses have numbers.Over here, they give an area a name and a number, then assign houses in that area a number, but not individually.

For example, the four houses on my street all have the same address...1462-2 Kisone. So, the post guy has to find the names on the mail boxes out front. It sucks, really.

I have learned my Japanese while living here, and learn more and more as time goes on. It is a hard language.

haha my bad I was eating at the time and typing as well. I can imagine how much of a pain that could be as well. Are you gonna stay there for good or make your way back to the U.S.? I don't think I would even attempt to learn japanese ive heard it super difficult

[Gold Digger]

Well, I've got a job that pays well for little time working, 6 weeks paid vacation (which includes all the national holidays), a car that I wanted for 10 years that I can't take back to the U.S. and my wife is happy here, as am I.

I'm at least here till 2020.

[Chattzx]

Well, I've got a job that pays well for little time working, 6 weeks paid vacation (which includes all the national holidays), a car that I wanted for 10 years that I can't take back to the U.S. and my wife is happy here, as am I.

I'm at least here till 2020.

i cant blame u for not wanting to leave either haha. oh btw do you have any posts pics of your ride?? i wanna see more!

[Gold Digger]

Yup...sure do. They are scattered throughout NICO and Nissan Sport magazine's website.

[Chattzx]

Yup...sure do. They are scattered throughout NICO and Nissan Sport magazine's website.

can i find them on the skyline section

[Gold Digger]

Here's one.zer...75454

Here's another.http://nissansportmag.nicoclub...-spec

[AZhitman]

What did you have there?

Grey supercharged G35 coupe.

[Tofubadguy]

Ah... right.

It should have dawned on me that one was yours. By the list under your name I mean, plus considering what you have said in the 'So you want a Skyline' thread too.

You've got a slick ride. So what did it dyno anyway if you don't mind me asking?

[Chattzx]

Here's one.zer...75454

Here's another.http://nissansportmag.nicoclub...-spec

all i can say is wow its really beautiful over there man and gorgeous car! oh btw how can i get one of those rear NICO banners? i want one!