one3 more thing.. timming chain cover has same water flow as old one, but this new one dont have the gas pump hole in it =)

i will take some pictures today at work for some comparison. i am starting my swap real soon. got my whole swap for $150. after work today i will post up some pictures and prices for everyone. i will also take alot of pictures during the install.

that will be amazing... if u change thread please give me the link to follow the entire job =)

89 crown victoria next to 97 explorer pump89 crown victoria next to 97 explorer 5.75" and about 3.75" tall89n crown victoria aluminum97 ford explorer 85 cast iron heavy pos!

they all pretty much bolt up the same except the explorer pump. explorer pump is $70 also requires timing cover which is i believe $82 the 85 crown vic iron pump is $35 and the aluminum is $56. you would obviously need the pulley for the pump and a different sized belt. hope this helps someone.
Modified by nookie2692000 at 7:05 PM 7/1/2008

yes this will help a lot of people.... do u know if there are a timming chain cover for a old 302 that can use explorer water pump ?? when o bought mine they only has 2 timming chain covers.. one for fuel pump and the other without fuel pump so i chosse the last.

you can only go with an explorer that has the 302. the older explorers only had the 4.0 until i believe 96 or 97. the openings on the water pump ports are different. i dont remember the part # for the 97 explorer timing cover but its $81.99 for now this is the only help i can give to anyone. im going to try to use the stock exhaust manifolds from a fox body mustang. there like the hugger headers. there real cheap everywhere. tomorrow i will be pulling the motor and trans out from the donor car. (85 crown victoria) when i get my mounts made i will take pictures of everything. might be a couple weeks though. if anyone would like me to try anything just let me know i will try to get you helpful answers.

nookie2692000 wrote:you can only go with an explorer that has the 302. the older explorers only had the 4.0 until i believe 96 or 97. the openings on the water pump ports are different. i dont remember the part # for the 97 explorer timing cover but its $81.99 for now this is the only help i can give to anyone. im going to try to use the stock exhaust manifolds from a fox body mustang. there like the hugger headers. there real cheap everywhere. tomorrow i will be pulling the motor and trans out from the donor car. (85 crown victoria) when i get my mounts made i will take pictures of everything. might be a couple weeks though. if anyone would like me to try anything just let me know i will try to get you helpful answers.

stang headers dont fit and the shorty headers from cougar dont fit too. they hit the steering bar... u need a left header that seems to be similar to chevy truck header =) maybe this will help you !.

what vehicle are your manifolds from? i dont really like the setup you have. not saying there bad. they work but i want my exhaust to look nice. i guess when i get my mounts made i will get a couple different headers and see what works and what dont. ill try a few things. how big is your exhaust piping?

nookie2692000 wrote:what vehicle are your manifolds from? i dont really like the setup you have. not saying there bad. they work but i want my exhaust to look nice. i guess when i get my mounts made i will get a couple different headers and see what works and what dont. ill try a few things. how big is your exhaust piping?

yea, i dont like my exhaust system too but no one want to do it nice. =) the exhaust piping its 2 1/4 or 2 1/2, i dont remember... but i think its the first.

i want to do by myself but i need to buy the tubes and i dont have the money right now to pay shippment and importation. =)

the manifold are from a cougar. old cougar.

well i will get a few different manifolds and me and my fabricator will see what will work nice. im going with the efi setup too just so everyone knows. im going to be using the 302 harness and ecu.

nookie2692000 wrote:well i will get a few different manifolds and me and my fabricator will see what will work nice. im going with the efi setup too just so everyone knows. im going to be using the 302 harness and ecu.

yea im in the same way.. im planning doing tbi setup and now im saving money first to buy megasquirt from puertorico, then the tbi inyectors etc =)

manifolds from the 85 crown victoria are real short and tight. we will see when i get the motor and trans mocked up if they will work or not. ill get some pics today or tomorrow of them.

I know it wasn't built for the mileage, but what are u gettin and what octane are u runnin?

alnissan wrote:I know it wasn't built for the mileage, but what are u gettin and what octane are u runnin?

im getting aprox 7-8 km/liter on city .. i dont know what im getting on highway !!! but it run very smooth because 5fh gear without slip =)

and i run only 87 octane gas every day. 93 octane its expensive here.

an efi setup shouldnt get bad mileage at all. look at all the lt1 and ls1 guys. they said they average around 28mpg. im getting those pictures today. finally got a day off. ill take some of my car too but its messy.

nookie2692000 wrote:an efi setup shouldnt get bad mileage at all. look at all the lt1 and ls1 guys. they said they average around 28mpg. im getting those pictures today. finally got a day off. ill take some of my car too but its messy.

dont worry, get those pictures =) i want to see them !!

1st 2 pics are right side manifold last 2 is a front and rear view of the left side manifold.

and when will u trought engine into the car? and what about ur transmision ? manual or automatic?

it will all go into the car hopefully this week sometime. will just have it suspended by the hoist and jack so the mounts can be tack welded. they will be tack welded and than test fitted and if everything is perfect, they will be taken out and fully welded. trans im going auto. car is completely gutted. and i dont like where the shifter sits on the manual. car was originally an auto and it would cost more for me to do manual seeing as i would need a new tranny and all that. im doing with what i got. when it all comes out in the end im hoping to have this done for under 700 tops. got the car for $100 no motor no trans. got the complete 302 swap for $150. i let it run for awhile before i even started taking it out of the crown vic. all my welding, bending, and fabricating is getting done free. i just have to pay for parts. i will be taking alot of pictures when i get started. i will post up what i spend on what as well. next thing i need to do though is to bring my car to the storage unit. than the motor will be set in for mounts to be made.

have good luck.... i think it will be a very good swap =) i take some new pics

nookie2692000 wrote:it will all go into the car hopefully this week sometime. will just have it suspended by the hoist and jack so the mounts can be tack welded. they will be tack welded and than test fitted and if everything is perfect, they will be taken out and fully welded. trans im going auto. car is completely gutted. and i dont like where the shifter sits on the manual. car was originally an auto and it would cost more for me to do manual seeing as i would need a new tranny and all that. im doing with what i got. when it all comes out in the end im hoping to have this done for under 700 tops. got the car for $100 no motor no trans. got the complete 302 swap for $150. i let it run for awhile before i even started taking it out of the crown vic. all my welding, bending, and fabricating is getting done free. i just have to pay for parts. i will be taking alot of pictures when i get started. i will post up what i spend on what as well. next thing i need to do though is to bring my car to the storage unit. than the motor will be set in for mounts to be made.

have good luck.... i think it will be a very good swap =) i take some new pics of my swap today because i have a front sway bar noise and change some bushings =)

the only thing i need yet besides a driveshaft is a shifter and maybe a shift kit. i will have to see where things are at for a shift kit but it would be real nice. i might just cut and weld a shaft. im going to look at some options today while im working.

what did you do for suspension? is yours stock still or? i have stock struts with eibach lowering springs. ill see if they will work nice or not. i wish i had money to get a coilover set...

im with stock suspension !!

might pic up some 18`s for the ride. ill post some pics later.

not sure what kind they are but there 18x7.5 2 of them need tires. $150 not a bad deal

they are cool !!! i think u will need some spacers !!!

going to start on making some mounts this week sometime. will keep everyone posted.

Hey Maik 21 thinking about doing the 302 setup as well. Any helpful tips...I got an S14. Also how much did this set-up cost you to fab if you don't mind me asking

Kwon88 wrote:Hey Maik 21 thinking about doing the 302 setup as well. Any helpful tips...I got an S14. Also how much did this set-up cost you to fab if you don't mind me asking

here in mexico, labor man or time labor its very cheap. i dont know how much it cost to you in usa.

i dont have my headers yet and its a long time i swap to this engine. you maybe done it faster than me because i start with no help and no guide.

dont worry, its not to expensive if u had a good friend who know welding.

all thinks needs to be custom so price will rise.

ok so i been slackin a bit. lol got a little update. not much for now. but i should have my motor in, within the next few weeks.

thats how she sits as of now. still need my mounts made. the tint is coming off and im putting new tint on. car is going to be lowered a few inches sometime aswell. this car i was going to keep stock but the other car i have is way to rotted underneath. so this one gets the 302. the rear diff is coming out and getting welded. the 302 is going to be getting a complete tune up and new gaskets. thats all the updates i have as of now. need more money. hate being poor!