my 240 can't drift at all...(noob drifter)

[pearlBeast]

Well last night I went out to a parking lot and just felt like ripping on the 240sx... so I start out and redline first gear then I make a sharp left. the car just turns in a circle then half way I clutch kick and the car starts to spin. I start countersteering, but too late and spinout. It was so scary cause it felt like the car was going to flip or something... After that I dont think drifting a stock 240sx is possible. A bit later I tried doing a burnout but there was just mad wheel hopping... It really sucked cause i just installed and broke-in a new clutch. I thought it would be better. Anyone have similar things happen with there stock soch 240sx fastback?? pearlBeast

[seyath]

You just need to keep practicing. There is no Initial D here. You're not going to be a master drifter at the first try. You say that dropping the clutch at redline and tugging the wheel to the left didn't get the tires loose. Maybe as soon as the car began to loose traction you got scared and let go of the accelerator a bit. You say that there was a large amount of wheel hop when you tried to do a burnout. How are your suspensions? If the vehicle has been abused a lot, you are probably running on blown struts. Also, you say you have a SOHC hatch. Is there a chance that it is equipped with the HICAS? Because most people find it harder to drift with it. BTW, if you do have HICAS and are intent on making your car a drift vehicle, URAS makes a wonderful HICAS eliminator, or you could swap the rear suspension assembly from a non HICAS S13. Hope this helps.I had no problems getting my old '89 Coupe sideways and drifting in the mountains of Rockland. Then again, I've had experience in rally and autocross, so I don't know exactly what kind of driver you are. Just remember practice makes perfect, just do it in a safe place where you can't injure anyone.

[sensibleS13driver]

1. it is not the car's fault.2. the car will not flip in a parking lot3. you do not have hicas

[s13EastTN]

It is possible. You just have to be smoother about it.

[hannibal]

I have problems counter steering enough. I usually end up with lots of oversteer...

[Onizuka]

1. it is not the car's fault.2. the car will not flip in a parking lot3. you do not have hicas

It is entirely posible to flip a car in a parking lot, it has been done.

[Juujai]

my romping on the clutch pedal like you did disrupts the car so it breaks loose.

you'll need to do some braking to shift some weight to the front or else the rear wheels will just stick to the floor like how it was designed to. manufacturers wont sell you a car that'll get you killed. shifting too much weight to the front can cause you to spin out so you can gas it accordingly to balance it out. if you're not breaking loose enough you can lift your emergency brake or hit the clutch pedal for a jolt and you can also downshift.

steering/braking/gasing are the main keys. how much you need to do on each depends on the speed/tires/ and a lot of other things you need to figure out. buy a 2way LSD!!! its godly

thats just to give you an idea how to initiate a drift you can experiment how to control it and finish off or whatever.

for people that suck itll be better to "try" to drift with a higher hp car with bad gripping tires thats similar to what idiots do in the rain for fun.

this is just a little tip from my own experience i'm also just learning and practicing. there are lots of techniques and any liable injuries are not my problem. remember if youre serious about this you'll end up denting/crashing and even totaling multiple cars. go out there and smash your car so you can sell me your body panels i need fenders haha so please drive responsibly

[Juujai]

from my experience oversteer and understeer problems.

oversteer occurs because too weight is shifted to the front and understeer occurs when too less or no weight is shifted to the front. theres lots of ways to shift weight figure it out. guys with heavy feet step on their brakes/gas hard as ... and throw their steering wheel hard. lots of girls drift better than guys because they are more gentle lol. i think its true + most girls have nothing to prove while guys wanna act tough and "yeah im crazy!" macho Egos. so dont go telling your girlfriends that youre all that because more than 99% (just a made up number) of the people in US cant drift for beans. we're getting somewhere and we have the idea of how to shift weight and control our cars but in the situation we can't do it lol. just try to oversteer into a corner at a high speed and let the car correct itself without countersteering and kissing the curb while doing it. when you can do that you can brag all you want to anyone lol ill praise too.

most poser drifters dont shift any weight to the front and think they can just redline their cars and turn hard +yank ebrake. they hear their tires squeeling and say oh man im drifting ahhh! pretty much all they get is tons of understeer while turning because of the heavy gassing. well the 240 is a neutral car so you need to disrupt the cars balance to achieve under/oversteer accordingly.

[Thrwnsprkz]

yea if your just starting out, there are 3 things that'll drastically help you, a new (tougher) clutch, LSD, and coilovers. if you have an open diff any drifting will be hard to control. esp if your trying to hold or connect drifts.

the best way to learn IS on a stock underpowered car, for if you master the bacics of weight transfer and technique then you will perform substatially better in a tuned "drift" car with a 2 way or high hp engine

^^^like he said... a perfect drift should feel incredibly smooth, watch for understeer... if your just sliding forward, gunning the gas will NOT make the rear kickout

~also: watch the drift bible, follow his instructions CLOSELY, try 90 deg turns 1st, then 180's, then get a diff and practice 360's... learn your car inside and out then try to controll a highspeed drift.& remember, have fun!

[gogg]

I would suggest learning to drive your car better before attempting to drift it. I would also suggest you post topics pertaining to drifting in the "Drifting" forum NICO has so wonderfully suplied for us.

[sensibleS13driver]

It is entirely posible to flip a car in a parking lot, it has been done.

What I meant was that a beginning drifter should not even put himself in a situation where he could flip, that would be extremely dangerous for any driver. I do agree however that it is possible.

[gogg]

It is entirely posible to flip a car in a parking lot, it has been done.

not a 240 in a big *** lot with no potholes, curbs, or grass. I seriously doubt a bone stock 240 (without blown suspension) would flip.

[Florida240sx]

Yea but parking lots do have drains and they tend to make you say O **** when you don't see them and your car gets off the ground.Is it possible to flip it...Yes however looking at how many drifts are done in parking lots without flipping they % or chance of you flipping is well you're not goign to flip unless you want to.

[pearlBeast]

Hey thanks for the advice guys. I just went out this morning to look at the tires and they were pretty scarred up. So i'm not going to be drifting for a while. I think i'll start with autox and learn weight shifting first. Then upgrade the car as I get better.noob outpearlBeast

[yeap]

Serious bro drifting is very difficult. Keep practicing, try getting some tension rods on the front to help eliminate under steer. Just remember to have fun out there and not blame the car or your self. As for the new clutch I have always heard to drive about 500 miles on it before going crazy with it.

[mmatl16]

here are two things u need to learn

1- ebrake is ur best friend when u dont have lsd or turbo2- get out of first gear. its horrible. put that **** in second and leave it there