My 2014 Rogue so far ....

[Femcrae3]

Back in April 2013 I bought a new Honda Accord. It was a solid car - there were some quirks about its phone connectivity features and the radio, but it was a solid car. But with 2 small kids I got tired of bending over to get them strapped in in the back seat. When I saw the '14 Rogue, I knew I had to have one. I'm now about 6 weeks and 1,500 miles in, and here are my first impressions.

Overall, it's a solid SUV. Rides relatively well, handles reasonably well for a SUV, looks nice and the interior inside is really nice. (Mine is an SV with the Premium Pkg w/ navigation and Panoramic Sunroof Pkg.) Fuel economy is about what I expected - I'm getting around 24 mpg in mixed driving. It's also pretty quiet inside, with the exception of hearing the engine if you rev it, but nothing outside of what you'd expect. So, overall I'm really pleased. But there are some caveats.

The build quality of mine left a little to be desired. The piece of trim holding the front passenger side window control keeps popping up out of place. The fuel filler door release doesn't work - I pull on it, but then have to use my driver's license to make it pop open. By far the most serious issue is the back window/tailgate leaks pretty badly in the rain, with water dripping inside. I'm going to take it for a service appointment as soon as I get a chance to get the dealer to fix these issues.

There are 2 other issues that are more design/engineering, rather than quality control. First is the blind spot warning system. It uses the cameras in the side rear view mirrors; when you're driving in the rain, drops of water obviously form on them constantly, which triggers the BSW lights inside either door. The net result is that when you're driving in the rain, both lights are constantly flashing on and off the entire time, and if you turn on the blinker while they're lit it beeps and makes them flash more. This is the first car I've owned with a BSW system, so maybe all of them do it, but surely there's a way to engineer around this. (On a semi-related note, the Lane Departure Warning system is much better than the one in my '13 Accord, which went off so much that I kept it turned off.)

The second - and much more serious issue - is the radio/connectivity/voice recognition system. It's fairly horrendous. Here's a summary:

- The text message system that can read and reply to texts does NOT work with iPhones running iOS 7, the latest system. After scratching my head for hours about it I called customer service and was told this; not willing to believe it, I sent an email to Nissan and was told the same thing. Surely there'll be a software update for this, but it's a glaring oversight in the mean time.

- The voice recognition system is comically horrible. Tell it to call my wife and it'll come back with all sorts of things, ranging from playing a song or finding a gas station or pulling up a list of 5 peoples' names out of my phone book that sound nothing like her name. Normal voice, loud voice, natural language or spoken artificially clearly, it doesn't matter. Just horrible. Grade F horrible.

- Another VR problem: my '13 Accord's VR system let you push the button and say anything, e.g., "Call John Smith" or "Play song 'Radioactive.'" Based on what you said, it figured out what you were trying to do (like call somebody or play a song). The Rogue's system won't do that; you have to hold its hand and lead it down a path by first saying "phone" and then "call John Smith." Whereas my Accord let me hit the button and say "Redial," you have to tell the Rogue, "Phone / Call / Redial." Since there's obviously no such thing as "redialing" a song, you would think the Nissan software engineers would work this out like Honda's did.

- If that last point seems nitpicky to you, bear in mind that you have to deal with voice prompts for all this. When you hit the VR button, a lady says something like, "Say a command for the following categories, like 'phone' or a point of interest followed by a place name." Then, when you say "phone," - assuming she understood you correctly, which is a crap shoot - she comes back and says, "Say a command like ..." and then she rattles off a bunch of phone-related possibilities. After about the 3rd time you hear this, you never, ever need to hear this again, but there's no way to turn it off. In my Honda you could go into settings and put the VR into "advanced" mode, which meant that it stopped prompting you. Nissan needs to follow suit, and fast. CAVEAT: in *theory* you can give it two commands at once, like "Phone call John Smith" or "Audio play Kings of Leon," but the VR software is so bad that the more words you throw at it at one time the more guaranteed you are that it won't work. SECOND CAVEAT: You can cut the prompting off mid-sentence by hitting the VR button again while she's talking, but the system is just slow enough to respond that this gets extremely frustrating.

- The radio software itself can be slow to respond. Example: you get into the Rogue and crank it up, and the radio comes back on to the same volume you had it turned up to the last time you turned it off (which in my case is usu way louder than I want it to be at startup). (A Lexus I owned 10 years ago always went back to a lower volume at startup, but I'll overlook that I guess.) So you frantically start turning the volume knob down, but at first nothing happens, b/c the radio and navi system are still getting started. A second or two later it'll suddenly go to zero, like an underpowered computer that finally found the time to carry out everything you asked it to do. Really annoying.

- The radio software is also generally buggy. Today I was driving along and the radio went dead; I looked at the screen and it had the Nissan logo on it. It had rebooted for some reason. One time it completely froze up while I was driving - couldn't change stations, couldn't turn it off, etc, though it was still playing - and I had to pull over and restart the car for it to work again. When playing an iPod/iPhone, the display in between the gauges routinely gets stuck on "Track no. X" no matter what the number really is. Also, every time you connect an iPhone to it (no matter how many times you've connected the same one with the same music/playlists on it), it has to "index" the music on it for the first few minutes of driving (the info line at the top of the screen shows you % of progress). While it's indexing it's SUPER slow to respond, e.g., you push the steering wheel button for the next song 5 times and nothing happens, only to have it skip 5 songs ahead when it finally gets around to it.

So ... all in all it's a great car so far, but seriously tarnished by VR/radio/connectivity software that acts like it was slapped together by a middle school computer club. Here's hoping for a good dealer experience to fix my build quality issues, and a SERIOUS software update from Nissan soon to fix the radio.

Sorry for the long post - just trying to put the info about my experiences out there.

[ImStricken06]

The build quality of mine left a little to be desired. The piece of trim holding the front passenger side window control keeps popping up out of place. The fuel filler door release doesn't work - I pull on it, but then have to use my driver's license to make it pop open. By far the most serious issue is the back window/tailgate leaks pretty badly in the rain, with water dripping inside. I'm going to take it for a service appointment as soon as I get a chance to get the dealer to fix these issues.

as expected. i regreat to say that in my opinion it seems as if nissan is not focused on building quality cars anymore. it appears their primary focus is pushing out cars with a CVT transmission, and catching up to the hyundai/kia's features a year or two later. that being said, they still have a great engine. the smaller issues you speak of, are very un-nissan like, but we all better get used to them i guess. unacceptable in my book(coming from a long history of nissan cars)

the blind spot warning system. It uses the cameras in the side rear view mirrors; when you're driving in the rain, drops of water obviously form on them constantly, which triggers the BSW lights inside either door. The net result is that when you're driving in the rain, both lights are constantly flashing on and off the entire time, and if you turn on the blinker while they're lit it beeps and makes them flash more.

again, unacceptable. this is clearly nissan playing catch-up. nissan needs to revert back to their fundamentals. "perfection" is what i knew nissan to stand for.
nissan is realizing they spent so much time on perfecting the CVT, that they neglected to work on all the other features cars now a days have. so they simply slapped together the features, in a game of "lets hurry up and offer it".

The second - and much more serious issue - is the radio/connectivity/voice recognition system. It's fairly horrendous. Here's a summary:

to be fair, voice recognition is a tough thing to perfect. i wouldnt even expect a car to get it right to be honest. and with phones now a days updating apps almost every other night, i am not surprised to see things not working right or connecting right. my 08's system does everything i want it to do: it makes phone calls if i push dial on my phone and answers them. people dont even realize im on the speaker, as my voice is picked up clearly- and i hear the call clearly. thats all i want my car to do. i dont want my car reading my texts, or anything else.

The radio software itself can be slow to respond. Example: you get into the Rogue and crank it up, and the radio comes back on to the same volume you had it turned up to the last time you turned it off (which in my case is usu way louder than I want it to be at startup). So you frantically start turning the volume knob down, but at first nothing happens, b/c the radio and navi system are still getting started. A second or two later it'll suddenly go to zero, like an underpowered computer that finally found the time to carry out everything you asked it to do. Really annoying.

dude... idk what to even say. that would piss me off royally. if i get into the car with say moma-dukes (who thinks anything above a whisper is too loud) and all of a sudden Metallica is blasting .. id hate for her to have to suffer while the system loads everything. this is why anything app like /shockwave / macromedia pisses me off. i even hate todays phones because of it. i just want chit to work as they did back in the old day. lol sheeeesh i feel old

The radio software is also generally buggy. Today I was driving along and the radio went dead; I looked at the screen and it had the Nissan logo on it. It had rebooted for some reason. One time it completely froze up while I was driving - couldn't change stations, couldn't turn it off, etc, though it was still playing - and I had to pull over and restart the car for it to work again.

the scenario alone would make me wanna light the car on fire. its bad enough my phone is this glitchy, now my car too? this makes me want to keep my car longer lol. i hate todays phones, and now cars run similar BS shockwave/macromedia/glitchy apps??


thank you so much for your writeup. welcome to the boards. hope you can keep us updated!!

[followingnfront]

The build quality of mine left a little to be desired. The piece of trim holding the front passenger side window control keeps popping up out of place. The fuel filler door release doesn't work - I pull on it, but then have to use my driver's license to make it pop open. By far the most serious issue is the back window/tailgate leaks pretty badly in the rain, with water dripping inside. I'm going to take it for a service appointment as soon as I get a chance to get the dealer to fix these issues.

as expected. i regreat to say that in my opinion it seems as if nissan is not focused on building quality cars anymore. it appears their primary focus is pushing out cars with a CVT transmission, and catching up to the hyundai/kia's features a year or two later. that being said, they still have a great engine. the smaller issues you speak of, are very un-nissan like, but we all better get used to them i guess. unacceptable in my book(coming from a long history of nissan cars)

the blind spot warning system. It uses the cameras in the side rear view mirrors; when you're driving in the rain, drops of water obviously form on them constantly, which triggers the BSW lights inside either door. The net result is that when you're driving in the rain, both lights are constantly flashing on and off the entire time, and if you turn on the blinker while they're lit it beeps and makes them flash more.

again, unacceptable. this is clearly nissan playing catch-up. nissan needs to revert back to their fundamentals. "perfection" is what i knew nissan to stand for.
nissan is realizing they spent so much time on perfecting the CVT, that they neglected to work on all the other features cars now a days have. so they simply slapped together the features, in a game of "lets hurry up and offer it".

The second - and much more serious issue - is the radio/connectivity/voice recognition system. It's fairly horrendous. Here's a summary:

to be fair, voice recognition is a tough thing to perfect. i wouldnt even expect a car to get it right to be honest. and with phones now a days updating apps almost every other night, i am not surprised to see things not working right or connecting right. my 08's system does everything i want it to do: it makes phone calls if i push dial on my phone and answers them. people dont even realize im on the speaker, as my voice is picked up clearly- and i hear the call clearly. thats all i want my car to do. i dont want my car reading my texts, or anything else.

The radio software itself can be slow to respond. Example: you get into the Rogue and crank it up, and the radio comes back on to the same volume you had it turned up to the last time you turned it off (which in my case is usu way louder than I want it to be at startup). So you frantically start turning the volume knob down, but at first nothing happens, b/c the radio and navi system are still getting started. A second or two later it'll suddenly go to zero, like an underpowered computer that finally found the time to carry out everything you asked it to do. Really annoying.

dude... idk what to even say. that would piss me off royally. if i get into the car with say moma-dukes (who thinks anything above a whisper is too loud) and all of a sudden Metallica is blasting .. id hate for her to have to suffer while the system loads everything. this is why anything app like /shockwave / macromedia pisses me off. i even hate todays phones because of it. i just want chit to work as they did back in the old day. lol sheeeesh i feel old

The radio software is also generally buggy. Today I was driving along and the radio went dead; I looked at the screen and it had the Nissan logo on it. It had rebooted for some reason. One time it completely froze up while I was driving - couldn't change stations, couldn't turn it off, etc, though it was still playing - and I had to pull over and restart the car for it to work again.

the scenario alone would make me wanna light the car on fire. its bad enough my phone is this glitchy, now my car too? this makes me want to keep my car longer lol. i hate todays phones, and now cars run similar BS shockwave/macromedia/glitchy apps??


thank you so much for your writeup. welcome to the boards. hope you can keep us updated!!

Yeah, I think my next car may actually be an X-Terra... Especially if they throw a diesel in there. Much less tech to go wrong...

[followingnfront]

To be fair though OP, you did buy a brand new car (first model year) in the first month of it being out... Bound to have glitches. But its the build quality problems I don't like. That is a Nissan trait as of late. Happened with the Altima too.

[ImStricken06]

if they dont stop making it! lol sales suck from my (narrow) understanding.

i am thinking of the diesel titan. it depends if they make it the blue-fluid crap or not. if they complicated it to reduce emissions with the fluid = im totally out.
i dont want any of the lane departure, navigation, led headlights, multi-cam, flash operated in dash screen, voice recognition, etc. my car should STFU with all the bells/announcements/warnings/etc and let me f-ing drive while listening to some tunes.

-i am telling you, the more i think about it = the more i like my rogue. awd, leather, heated seats, xenon headlights, great simple bluetooth = and nothing more. the more chit you add = the more that goes wrong/breaks.

[followingnfront]

if they dont stop making it! lol sales suck from my (narrow) understanding.

i am thinking of the diesel titan. it depends if they make it the blue-fluid crap or not. if they complicated it to reduce emissions with the fluid = im totally out.
i dont want any of the lane departure, navigation, led headlights, multi-cam, flash operated in dash screen, voice recognition, etc. my car should STFU with all the bells/announcements/warnings/etc and let me f-ing drive while listening to some tunes.

-i am telling you, the more i think about it = the more i like my rogue. awd, leather, heated seats, xenon headlights, great simple bluetooth = and nothing more. the more chit you add = the more that goes wrong/breaks.

I'm with you on everything except the multi-cameras... Dude you have NO idea how awesome it is... I feel retarded trying to park my dad's Maxima now since I've gotten so used to using them in my car lol. I look like a pro to people because I can get within an inch of the curb, the car in front of me, and the car behind me without touching them thanks to the cameras. But yeah, I may just get a Pro-4X with leather and Rockford Fosgate... They'll still have them at the end of this year. Gas will suck, but my Rogue is averaging 17-18mpg anyway so

[Femcrae3]

Aw yeah, 100% agree that a new model's gonna have build glitches until the folks in Smyrna get in their groove. I figure I stepped in that one fair and square, and so long as the dealer sorts it out I'll prob forgive and forget. But the radio stuff is honest to god horrible. ImStricken's got a good point about no VR being really all that good, but my GOD this one's terrible. Eyeballing it I'd say my old Lexus got about 65% of it right, and I swear that Honda damn near batted .1000. This one honest to god pulls stuff out of its arse. No lie: one day I told it three times in a row to call my secretary (her name's nothing crazy sounding - let's say its Lisa Turner). First time it asked me if it wanted to call Children's Medical Group or Michael Johnson. Second time it came back with "Playing song Gimme Shelter." Third time it came back with "Calling David Brown."

And I didn't even get into the Apps - if I choose iHeartRadio on the apps screen, it tells me I need to install the iHeartRadio app on my iPhone. Even though it is installed on my phone. And running. Hopefully they'll get everything sorted out w/ software updates. Fingers crossed.

[followingnfront]

Yeah good luck man. Let us know how it goes. That rear window thing is really bad.

[Femcrae3]

Multi-cam = the f'ing bomb. Prob the best new feature on any car I've ever had.

[followingnfront]

Multi-cam = the f'ing b0mb. Prob the best new feature on any car I've ever had.

Its great right? And I think the 2nd gen Rogue's screen is bigger than the 1st gen so you can see it even better on the 2014.

[Rockhound2.0]

Sorry to hear about your issues, hope you can get them resolved swiftly.

I thought I'd chime in on a couple things. I sync'ed my wife's iPhone 5 immediately after we got our Rogue home without issue. The read-aloud texting feature has been seamless - she's running iOS 7.0.4, so that's odd. My ancient Samsung Galaxy S2 has been fine, too.

We haven't had any issues with the voice recognition, although admittedly we haven't used it much. Sounds like yours has provided some unintended comedy. I was impressed when my wife tested it - she told it to call me and it found my number and proceeded to dial. I've mainly used it to look at the XM weather map and forecast info. The previous-gen nav software in my Z allows for the advanced input like you mention, and that feature is missed in the Rogue.

I have noticed the lag on volume changes when it's first booting up, but long ago I developed the habit of turning my audio way down before shutting off my car, so it hasn't managed to startle me yet! I loaded about 8 GB worth of MP3s on a USB stick to use in aux mode and I've been impressed with how quickly it indexes (and continues playback during indexing) when you start the car. I have about 10 GB on a USB stick in my Z, and the previous-gen nav systems have a pretty lengthy index lag time - it can take 30-45 seconds before it can play, whereas the Rogue resumes playback immediately.

We haven't had the nav crash and reboot in our Rogue, although I have had that happen once before in my Z - it seemed odd but hasn't happened since.

[Femcrae3]

Rockhound 2.0 - thanks for your input. That is amazing about your wife's iOS 7 iPhone working with the text reading feature - do you have the navi system? Because if you do, that makes me think 1) that maybe I've just got a radio that needs to be replaced and 2) I can't believe Nissan would tell me on the phone, and in an email, that it's not currently compatible. Thanks again for chiming in.

[RyleyinSTL]

My wife has a similar radio/Nav unit in her 14 Note. While I agree that the system has you go about things the long way, we generally find the recognition works well most of the time. We have had the car since early August and the system has never crashed. Perhaps yours is in need of service? The Nissan radio/Nav was actually a selling point for the car. We found it to be simpler to use and more reliable than other systems we test drove (like Ford's Sync - which actually crashed during a test drive).

There is a way to train the system with your voice (and additional drivers), have you done that yet? This may help.

Additionally, when the lady starts rambling off long lists of commands you already know, you can just hit the voice button, this interrupts her and allows you to start speaking immediately.

[Leonard1818]

The build quality of mine left a little to be desired. The piece of trim holding the front passenger side window control keeps popping up out of place. The fuel filler door release doesn't work - I pull on it, but then have to use my driver's license to make it pop open. By far the most serious issue is the back window/tailgate leaks pretty badly in the rain, with water dripping inside. I'm going to take it for a service appointment as soon as I get a chance to get the dealer to fix these issues.

Thanks for posting this!


Did you get the above stuff fixed? To me, this stuff is worse than the crap radio.

[JLD94]

Thoes are some annoying issuse....best to get that leak fixed quick. The truck I had before this had a leak and I didn't fix it for a little while....thinking that it was drying out. It started to have an odor after a little bit, and I would have to leave the windows down for a few days for it to really dry out.

I'm going on 6 weeks and 2600 miles and the only issue I have come across is a couple of times I have heard a slight rattling noise that seems to be coming from the B pillar, behind the seatbelt area, I have only noticed it while ideling at a stop light. One day, I had the VR not understand what I was saying 3 times, trying to get it to call someone, but it hasn't happened since. I've got a model S, so it doesn't have everything yours does though.

[Rockhound2.0]

Rockhound 2.0 - thanks for your input. That is amazing about your wife's iOS 7 iPhone working with the text reading feature - do you have the navi system? Because if you do, that makes me think 1) that maybe I've just got a radio that needs to be replaced and 2) I can't believe Nissan would tell me on the phone, and in an email, that it's not currently compatible. Thanks again for chiming in.

Yep, we have nav in ours. That is bizarre. The only reference to iOS versions in the owner's manual is that a minimum version 5.0 is needed for smartphone integration.

Not sure when this Nissan nav version was developed/introduced - maybe on the '13 Altima? - so it likely predates iOS 7 (a September 2013 release). Perhaps Nissan's official policy is that it isn't supported? Odd that it would behave differently for us.

[lionhead]

Thank you for posting. Femcrae3
I have to look at these when my rogue shows up.

[NissanNewbette]

Rockhound 2.0 - thanks for your input. That is amazing about your wife's iOS 7 iPhone working with the text reading feature - do you have the navi system? Because if you do, that makes me think 1) that maybe I've just got a radio that needs to be replaced and 2) I can't believe Nissan would tell me on the phone, and in an email, that it's not currently compatible. Thanks again for chiming in.

Yep, we have nav in ours. That is bizarre. The only reference to iOS versions in the owner's manual is that a minimum version 5.0 is needed for smartphone integration.

Not sure when this Nissan nav version was developed/introduced - maybe on the '13 Altima? - so it likely predates iOS 7 (a September 2013 release). Perhaps Nissan's official policy is that it isn't supported? Odd that it would behave differently for us.

I'm quite confused when it comes to setting up my iphone 5 with nissan connect. The instructions say to use the USB cable but do I also need to set it up with bluetooth to be able to use the phone/text features?

We have nav system in ours as well. Do you have any tips or advice?

[darylzero]

I'm quite confused when it comes to setting up my iphone 5 with nissan connect. The instructions say to use the USB cable but do I also need to set it up with bluetooth to be able to use the phone/text features?

We have nav system in ours as well. Do you have any tips or advice?

Here are the instructions, http://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam/ni ... onnect.pdf


other info, http://www.nissanusa.com/connect.html

http://www.nissanusa.com/connect/faq

[McHale]

The SL radio has SIGNIFICANT issues. I test drove 3 SL's and every single one of them would reboot every minute or so (after locking up of course) when I played music from my thumbdrive. My thumbdrive works fine in my Veloster, the Rav4's I test drove and every other car I've ever tried it in. But in the 2014 Rogue SL, reboots the system every time. On 2 of the cars, after I removed the thumbdrive the radio continued to reboot over and over. Even after turning off the car and restarting, it did it.

Between this and the already reported CVT issues, I'm seriously debating canceling my order which sucks because I love everything about the Rogue... except the CVT.

-Mc

[Leonard1818]

The SL radio has SIGNIFICANT issues. I test drove 3 SL's and every single one of them would reboot every minute or so (after locking up of course) when I played music from my thumbdrive. My thumbdrive works fine in my Veloster, the Rav4's I test drove and every other car I've ever tried it in. But in the 2014 Rogue SL, reboots the system every time. On 2 of the cars, after I removed the thumbdrive the radio continued to reboot over and over. Even after turning off the car and restarting, it did it.

Between this and the already reported CVT issues, I'm seriously debating canceling my order which sucks because I love everything about the Rogue... except the CVT.

-Mc

What were your thoughts on the Rav4 or the CR-V?

[NissanNewbette]

I'm quite confused when it comes to setting up my iphone 5 with nissan connect. The instructions say to use the USB cable but do I also need to set it up with bluetooth to be able to use the phone/text features?

We have nav system in ours as well. Do you have any tips or advice?

Here are the instructions, http://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam/ni ... onnect.pdf


other info, http://www.nissanusa.com/connect.html

http://www.nissanusa.com/connect/faq

Thanks for the links. I'd found them before and I wasn't very clear with my previous post. I can connect my iPhone 5 (with Telus) via bluetooth and it seems like everything works except there is no option for texting listed in the voice command list. I understand that there are bluetooth issues. I also understand that the instructions and FAQ say that I need to have the iphone plugged in via USB. When I do that it just seems to treat the phone like an ipod.
What I'm unclear about is: Do I have to be connected via BT and Usb to have any hope of having texts supported? Or is the iphone supposed to be connected exclusively with USB and if so how do you set up a phone using that method?

My apologies if I'm posting in the wrong thread. I was just curious about the steps that Rockhound 2.0 took when connecting his wifes iPhone 5. Oh and I should mention that I tried connecting my husbands iPhone 4 and had similar issues.

[McHale]

What were your thoughts on the Rav4 or the CR-V?

Seriously, had it not been for the horrible display on the Rav4 (and the cavalier attitude by the salesman about it), I'd have come home with a 2013 or a 2014 Rav4 weeks ago. I drove it and it drove nice. The interior was fine and it had all the cargo space I needed and my last car was technically a Toyota and I not only got over 200,000 miles on it, I beat the hell out of it the entire time and the gas mileage never, ever got worse over time. More importantly, NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER. Had I not seen a commercial and ordered a vehicle I'd never seen or test drove in person, I'd still be driving it. So I was very, very enthusiastic about the Rav4.

My car before that was a Honda and I had very good luck with it as well. I didn't like the body style of the CRV but it drove fine. Not really overly impressed with anything about it but nothing really turned me off. I just wasn't enthusiastic about it.

The first time I drove the 2014 Rogue I fell in love with the interior and really liked the body style and safety features. I do know that a LOT of people have the CVT trans and haven't had problems with them and I also have the luxury of waiting 6 or 8 (or 10 weeks) for my Rogue to arrive and that gives me plenty of time to keep an eye on the latest update of the CVT debacle. I'm that guy that if 1 out of 1000 widgets come off the assembly line bad, I'll be the guy that gets it so I'm ASSUMING I'll have a bad trans before my warranty expires (my trans warranty will be up in 2 or 3 years). I'm still nervous about the trans, but like I said, I get a couple months to keep an eye on the problems before I have to buy it. I'm very reluctant to cancel the order mainly because the place I bought it gave me the car at invoice and gave me more for my trade than any of the other dealers offered by about $1000.

If something happens and I end up cancelling my Rogue, it's definitely between the CRV and Rav4 and I'm leaning towards the Rav4 because the CRV looks like a beached whale.

-Mc

[Femcrae3]

A few updates on the things I talked about in the original post -

I took my Rogue to the dealer to get everything fixed. The fuel filler door was fixed. The piece of trim on the front pass. door that keeps popping out is on back order.

On the leaking rear window, the svc guy told me it was a "known issue" affecting a small number of new Rogues, and that it was the original dealer's job (my dealer got my Rogue from one in Fla.) to check for it. It took a while to fix it - I dropped it off first thing on a Monday morning and they kept it until Fri. On the upside, since it was a "known issue" my dealer gave me a loaner to drive while they had my Rogue. As soon as I picked it up I took it to the car wash and it didn't leak, so let's hope that's resolved.

On the radio - I told the svc guy it's buggy as hell, and asked if there's any way they can do some kind of a hard reset, or reinstall the software on it. He said he didn't know but would check. When I picked it up I asked about this and he said "Ahhh .... they're really not too sure, maybe the best thing to do would be to wait until an update comes out to see if that fixes it." I thought this was fairly lame, but didn't feel like pushing the issue b/c the radio does technically work and I was just glad to be getting my car back after a week. I'm going to wait this issue out.

Now over 3k miles in, I'm pretty happy w/ my 14 Rogue. Rides fairly well, is quiet, the interior is really nice and gas mileage is pretty good (I get about 25 mpg on the interstate w/ the cruise set on 79). My CVT has been fine so far, and I gotta say I'm starting to think its a little smoother than the one I had in my '13 Honda Accord. You just have to get used to the fact that they act like boats - gunning it makes a lot more noise, but speed builds gradually.

Like somebody else said, I looked at new RAV 4s and CRVs before getting my Rogue. To me the new RAV 4 looked and felt smaller than the Rogue (don't know if it actually is), but I still liked them. Never really seriously considered a CRV mainly b/c they're just kind of bland and I felt like the electronics were a little dated. Just my preferences though.

[GoingGoingGoneRogue]

We picked our new 2014 Rogue SL w/premium pkg, navigation on Monday and have no complaints so far. My wife can simply activate the voice command CALL and can call whomever she wants pretty seemlessly. She has an iphone 5S running latest ios 7.04 software. Loving the automatic lift gate, when you have a handfull of groceries, bags, books, whatever - it is very nice not to have to fumble to open the rear lift gate. The heated seats are probably the best she's ever had in an SUV, coming from a 2011 Rogue SV to this is night and day - the heated seats warm up fast and generate much needed heat on the back unlike the 11' Rogue which took forever to heat up fully.

We're due for a huge snowstorm here tomorrow so we'll see if the water leak issue that some of you have been reporting rears its' ugly head in our Rogue, which side of the rear lift gate does it leak from?

MPG has been decent so far but not much highway driving yet.

Cheers!
ER

[saws]

Hi all:

Picked up a new 2014 SV /prem pkg Rogue in white with black interior.
Love it so far, we have 200 miles on it in about a week with 25 MPG with 50% city driving.
The dealer was Rothrock in Allentown PA and I have to say they really worked with us to negotiate a great deal.
We paid below invoice on a newly redesigned car! Our price was better than truecar and included a recent grad discount.

We really like the camera and nav unit on this the most.
All the technology features are working as advertised which was a pleasure.
The Bluetooth and texting features are a hit.

A few things we miss include homelink (garage door opener),
The homelink accessory with dimming rearview mirror may be the first upgrade we get.

Love the CVT as well, it is so smooth and a very efficient alternative.
CVT was one of the reasons we picked the Rogue over CRV/Rav4

[daltonvol]

A couple questions for you folks...

1. Do you have to be connected by USB for text feature to work with iPhone? I haven't had it work for me yet (I bought the Rogue 5 days ago).

2. Does the radio software update automatically? I've seen a couple of you mention a radio/software update. How does this happen?

Thanks!

[Femcrae3]

Daltonvol - the text feature on mine doesn't work whether it's connected by USB or not, and Nissan told me in and email AND on the phone that it's b/c iOS 7 isn't supported. But some folks on here are saying that it works for them, so I think my radio is just buggy.

About 99.9% sure that radio software updates are done by the dealer only - they don't happen wirelessly or anything.

[daltonvol]

Oh, OK. I rarely take mine to the dealer so, I'll have to find out more about the software updates.

As for the texting, it finally worked yesterday (and, actually, it may have simply been the case that I hadn't received one while in the car until yesterday). I've got iPhone 5 with 7.0.4, so I'm not sure why yours wouldn't be working.

[saws]

I have both a galaxy S4 (android) and a iphone 5S.

I found that with the android everything works perfectly when connected by bluetooth itself (no usb connection needed)
This means apps work (iheart pandora and google search) and also text readout when arrived and response (including auto response if so set)

With the iphone 5S it is more picky. First it needs "both" bluetooth AND usb connected to the iphone for the apps to work.
even then pandora does not work (only iheart and google search) Also texting did not work for me yet (on iphone)

I did have some trouble initially connecting my iphone altogether as car did not recognize smartphone as belonging to owner;
but work around was to logout of nissan connect, log back in and disable all apps in manage my apps and then enable one at a time.

I will play around with iphone texting to see if I can get it to work.