My 0-60 6.6 seconds

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240dreams
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I just got around to using my new HKS turbo timer and it has some nice functions including 0-60. I did a few runs and 6.63 seconds was my best. I cant launch to save my life. I had wheel hop and some bogging (cheap m+s tires). Also a huge chirp/wheelspin in my 1-2 shift. Im sure i can get maybe 6.0-6.2 with better tires. Mods are basic bolt ons but stock exhaust. 11 PSI. Also SR.


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D1SR240
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What kinda basic bolt ons, and is it the t25 turbo, for a stock exhaust that sounds pretty good.

240dreams
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apexi intake, greddy dp and 3 in tp, safc2 (untuned need wideband), boost at 11 with turbo xs MBC, stock t25 and smic, spec stage 3....

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D1SR240
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Nice, i think those are some good times

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Man, my buddy's HKS turbo timer said we were running 10 second quarters in his stock GSX (except for a autozone cone filter). Maybe he had it setup wrong or something....

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^or he couldnt drive

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Altiman94 wrote:^or he couldnt drive


if your running 10 second quarters in a stock gsx i think u can drive!

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stock gsx.. hahah 10second qtrs.. hahah what is the ricers coming to these days

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TitanBlue
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6.6 sec is a little too slow... when I had my SR20DET, I was playing with my friend who has a Honda CBR600, and he couldn't catch up... only mods I had at the time was a 3" cat back, and HKS super intake... and on the strip it ran a 14.1 1/4 mile... on stock steelies, and cheap $2 used tires!!!

Tae

240dreams
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trust me 6.6 is pretty decent on an almost stock setup. i think manufacture 0-60's are way overrated. they probably do them downhill or something b/c they are always faster than actual times. WRX's are claimed at what like 5.4. Thats just a lil more than a full second faster than my time but i bet the drivers launched the hell out of it. plus thats with AWD. im happy with my time.

240dreams
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new low 6.5. better launch same setup.

WhItES13
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Get a 3" exhaust and bet the time will go down a bit, that stock exhuast is hurting you.

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6.6 seems very slow to me.

I got 5.72 seconds (as recorded by a G-tech right after getting the car weighed with me in it) @ 9 psi (KA-T). This was with spinning tires, a horribly slipping clutch, a bad driver, and a very soft launch (no clutch dropping at all). Since then I've gotten an ASP crank pulley, fidanza flywheel, act street clutch, intercooled it, and eliminated all back pressure in my exhaust...I'm hoping for at least 5.0 flat or sub-5.0

240dreams
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i can gurantee u that the G-tech is giving you false info. its just not as accurate as the hks 0-60 meter. the hks meter taps into the ecu for speed instead of "guessing".

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How can you GUARANTEE that g-tech is giving me false info? It's an IDIOT PROOF device when set up PROPERLY. I just had the car accurately weighed with me in it, was on PERFECTLY flat pavement, had the device zeroed in, and then did the test. There's no way some $100 turbo timer whose main function is to let the turbo cool down is more accurate than a precision g-tech DESIGNED to give you 0-60 times. Do you think 5.72 was too "fast?" I'm hoping my car would lay down at least 5 second flat times now...the power to weight ratio is a lot better than a lot of cars out there getting 5.5 second times, theres no reason it shouldn't be quicker.

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TitanBlue wrote:6.6 sec is a little too slow... when I had my SR20DET, I was playing with my friend who has a Honda CBR600, and he couldn't catch up
Was he running you in 5th gear???

240dreams, I think your HKS turbo timer is giving you some conservative times. I think your SR is running better than that

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i dunno he really needs a 3in exhaust... the stock is just causing him to lose a lot of power.

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agreed

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if the HKS timer taps into the speed sensor, that means when he spins his tires it gets a false reading. i would trust a Gtech 1st, as i have seen first hand it is quite accurate as it states.

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[quote=" 240dreams e ECU cani can gurantee u that the G-tech is giving you false info. its just not as accurate as the hks 0-60 meter. the hks meter the ecu for speed instead of "guessing". [/quote]

The ECU can not compensate for errors in the speed signal. So if you were to run a different tire size, the meter would not be able to compensate.

On the other hand, the G-Tech is an accelerometer designed to estimate 0-60 and 1/4 miles by frequently sampling the G-Forced made under acceleration. Most testing data seems to indicate it is accurate so within a couple of tenths of a seconty good considering it doesnd. Which is pretty good considering it is not sampling ground speed via radar or 5th wheel. More importantly though, it is accurate enough to make comparison runs.

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Last time i had a passenger stop watch it was between 5.5 and 5.6 depending on my launch

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I think it should be faster than 5.5 with 250whp...the 350z has 287 crank hp (about 245 whp), weighs about 450 pounds more than the 240sx, and it got a 5.7 time to 60, IIRC. Your time was definitely slower from a passenger.

The new BMW 3 series has like 220 hp or something like that and hits 60 in around 5.6-5.8, IIRC...I realize the times have a lot more to do with driver, launch, and engine characteristics, but 220 crank hp is a lot less than 250 whp, and weight makes a big difference in acceleration.

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factor in that those cars dont have to wait for a turbo to spool and the times are probly a bit off (3 series should be around 6 seconds) but i do think your times should be a bit better. i dont think the G-tech is all that accurate tho.

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Did i mention i cant drag for crud? Less than 6 seconds with me driving and someone else in the car is braggin numbers for me!

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TurboKA37 wrote:factor in that those cars dont have to wait for a turbo to spool and the times are probly a bit off (3 series should be around 6 seconds) but i do think your times should be a bit better. i dont think the G-tech is all that accurate tho.


I don't have to wait for a turbo to spool up--barely anyhow. My turbo is small enough so that in first and second it pulls extremely hard right off idle Also, G-Tech IS accurate to within a couple of tenths of a second (in the instruction manual they claim a couple of hundredths accuracy), as long as it's set up right. I'll go do a test with my car soon, now that it has good tires, little traction problem, and a good clutch...I'll post the time up here


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