MT M45 review:An outrage!!

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Postby PalmerWMD » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

PS: I believe the M45 is a smashing deal for what it is.

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Postby PalmerWMD » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

As for looks:

I checked out a parked 2003 M45 out teh otehr weeks and just happend to be accompanied by a yunger demographic from the local street race scene.Commenst:"awesome"!"Whoa, this car rocks!"

Sadly tehy are not equipped with the money to buy one yet.

I also think it looks really good!It, "rocks"...:oface

Fred..:ylsuper

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Postby Jeff Williams » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

There is a 2003 M45 with 4669 miles, on eBay for $30,099.00, right NOW!

Hurry, before it sells, it only has 7 days and 20 hours left! I have already been outbid, but you might get it.

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Postby MattB » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

Jeff Williams wrote:My wife likes the new Q, I like the M. I think it has something to do with curves, and straight lines.

The resale shouldn't be any worse than the Q, although, it does have a price advantage, right off the bat.

My 2000 I30t has kept its value, fairly well. It has depreciated 40%, over the last 42 months. I have kept ahead of the depreciation, from day one.

I am glad I didn't get the 1999 Q45t that was in the showroom, for $52,000.00 I would still owe over $30,000.00 for the car, and be sick.

I'll go with the 5 year old M45, for under $20,000.00 in about 4 years. Until the, I will put another 100,000 miles on the '94, then I'll pick up a 2 year old G35 Coupe for the little woman, and drive the '00 I30t.

Sounds like a good plan, if I can stand to go back to a FWD V6 for a couple of years. That will be the tough part.


That's about my plan...I'll trade in my 95 G20t when I get out of college for a used M45 that's been killed by depreciation.

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HMM u sure they could see?

Postby PtM03m45 » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

Don says he drove a M45 and nobody even looked once. The only problem is the senior citizens in Scottsdale can't see that well. Or maybe he test drove it at night....hmmmMy former car was an Amulet Red Audi TT and the M45 gets more looks and stares. Also allot of nice comments!But then again allot of younger people seem to like my car.

And yes the M retails loaded for 51k but who is paying retail? I got mine for 5k off that.

The G35 would be a step back...how could that be. We're talkin car of the year here.

If the dealer really wants to sell you he'll come down. And you can't b1tch about the price, it has more than a 75k mercedes.

Matt u got the idea and hey I'll sell ya mine. By that time it'll even have the supercharger...LOLhttp://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_pag ... _id=343129

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Postby Jeff Williams » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

Post it onQuote »Matt u got the idea and hey I'll sell ya mine. By that time it'll even have the supercharger...LOL[/quote]

Post it on B/S/T, and we'll have a bidding war!:pface

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Re: I understand your point...

Postby Jason B » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

don85259 wrote:I understand your point, although right now you cannot buy a Q for under $50k. Best price I can find is $52,545 at carsdirect.com for the base model, and I would prefer the premium model ($62,145), which is more comparable to my current Q.


Remember, those are STICKER prices, not what you can get them new for. I got my loaded '02 Q for much less than the $60k sticker. For 2003, they are now $62k loaded and will be going up every year. Still, no car gives you what the Q does for the money you pay. No S class, no 7 series, unless you pay $$$$ more and everything is optional.

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Postby Jeff Williams » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

The "Buy it Now" price on the M45 on eBay is $38,500.00

That's a good discount for 4,000 miles

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Re: Re: I understand your point...

Postby don85259 » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

Jason B wrote:Remember, those are STICKER prices, not what you can get them new for. I got my loaded '02 Q for much less than the $60k sticker. For 2003, they are now $62k loaded and will be going up every year. Still, no car gives you what the Q does for the money you pay. No S class, no 7 series, unless you pay $$$$ more and everything is optional.


Totally agreed that the Q is a good value in that price class. There was a Lexus LS430 in the showroom at the Lexus dealer for $71,000. 7-series BMWs are also pushing 70 large.

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Postby Metroyed » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

"I don't really think it was a J30 replacement, more of a stopgap between the G35/I35 and Q45. The J30 was targeted more at the Acura Legend."

I agree, the J30 went up against Acura's legend and Mercedes Benz....yet it failed miserably, and that's why it's such a nice pick up today.

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Postby Eswift » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

the M45 fills the same niche as the J30, just that the M45 isnt aimed at acuras because they dont do RWD. obviously, instead of acura being the target, bavaria and stuttgart are.

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Postby Jeff Williams » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

Went to the dealership, yesterday. Heard from the servcie manager, that Infiniti is going to drop the I35, and produce the M35, making all their cars RWD.

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Postby landtodd » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

Styling of the M45 is very much in the current idiom, take it or leave it. Some designs grow on you . . . remember how weird the Q45 looked in 1989? No grill and a belt-buckle on the hood!

Remember the original Honda CRX? An egg! Audi 5000? A jelly bean! (very influential design) Ford Taurus? See "Audi 5000"

I'm looking forward to some delicious depreciation, so that the M45 is at least on my short list. If Dennis' three-year half-life continues to hold true, you should be able to buy the current crop of M45s for just over $10K in 2008/2009. Maybe less if the design proves to be an orphan.

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Postby longrunQ » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

before I even read the other replies, if I were the one reviewing I would give the LS the head knock just on looks alone. The M45 is a SORRY excuse for a design. Its probably one of the WORST looking cars I've had the displeasure of seeing in the last 20 years( another notable one being the new thunderbird)

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Postby longrunQ » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

now the fx45 is a different case altogether. It must be one of the sweetest, sleekest vehicles I've ever laid my eyes on.

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Postby Rex » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

Keep in mind the "looks" of a car are very subjective.

There are alot of people that could care less if they get Coke or Pepsi at a restaurant, others would have water rather than get the one they don't like.

Admittedly, I really like the looks of the M45 (scared to think they're gonna offer it as an M35), but I have seen some on the road, that looked like something was wrong with them. I recognized them as M's, but something just looked wrong. It's looks are really impacted by the cars color. Can't think of too many other cars that have that characteristic.

Now as for the FX, that is what I was lead to belive cars would look like when I grew up. I think I may have even had a HotWheels that looked just like it when I was a kid.

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Postby PalmerWMD » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

They should proably drop teyh white as a color on the M it looks horrible.But the car looks great in dark colors.

Fred...:)

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White M45s

Postby maxnix » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

palmerwmd wrote:They should proably drop teyh white as a color on the M it looks horrible.
I've seen about 25 - 30 different M45s, but never a white one. Now I'll have to be more vigilant.

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Postby AZhitman » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

White M45 = Bad idea.

Silver and black are my fave colors for the M, with that burgundy shade being close behind...

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Postby G8R45 » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

The green's not bad either. I prefer the black, but could live with the green or burgundy.

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Postby longrunQ » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

I'm not mad at anybody for being a diehard infiniti fan. I am a die hard fan of certain things myself. I just call it as I see it.

In whatever color, the M45 is FUGLY. I am sure that more of you would agree had it been made by Ford or Honda.

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Postby maxnix » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

longrunQ wrote:I am sure that more of you would agree had it been made by Ford or Honda.
Honda could make a vehicle with that quality build, but Ford never could. Besides, the closest vehicle appearance in profile to an M45 is a 1966-1967 Chevelle. They had even less rear seat legroom, I assure you.

I think the M is a nice counterpoint to the Q in styling, with the exception of the grill. Fortunately, one doesn't have to look at the grill while driving. The interior is superb.

My family had a 1965 Malibu SS that cost GM more in warranty repairs to keep it running the first year we had it than we paid for it. We traded it at the end of the year for a 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 XL.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t

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Postby PalmerWMD » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

I think the M45 bears a striking resmeblence to the 1987 Monteverdi.

Which was a 175,000 sfr car based on the then current MB S class.

Fred...:)

(one swissfranken = about 0.6 USD)

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Postby maxnix » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

palmerwmd wrote:I think the M45 bears a striking resmeblence to the 1987 Monteverdi.Fred...:)
Good eye, and a trés exotic association.

But I thought the Monteverdis used Chrysler 440 V8s, and a few of the coupes were built with the 426 Hemi. My memory may be gone, though.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t

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Postby PalmerWMD » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

brain:You are thinking opf the earlier Monetverdi's.

I am thinking of the late 80's monteverdi which were heavily based on the MB S class ( to say the least)

But you are right there is also some resemblenc with the older ones (70's), though not quite as striking.

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Postby maxnix » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

Probably, as I don't know why they would put 440s in late eighties cars, although they were (are ?) very low production. I guess I am still stuck in the seventies. The down side is the 440s all had three speed torque flites.

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Postby AZhitman » Sat May 10, 2003 12:22 pm

I agree with the Chevelle comment - That's why I love the look... :D

BTW, a billet grille would be the first modification.


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