MPG!!!

[Scuba Steve]

OK I'm a little worried I have a Nissan Versa 1.8 SL 6 speed with Technology Pakage. New car fresh from factory it had 22km on it... dealer took it to tint it. Odometer is now at 805km = 500.2 miles. 1st fill was dealers free tank so I have no clue how much was the top off but, my second fill was 47.868 liters or 12.64 us gal or 10.53 Imp Gallons on 402.6KM or 250.16 miles which = 20.1 USmpg or 24.14 Imp mpg. or = 11.88L/100km. Now my second fill was 47.962 liters or 12.67 us gal or 10.55 Imp Gallons on 380km or 236.12 miles which = 18.64 US mpg or 22.38 Imp mpg or 12.62L/100km!!! Now, I shift just before 3000 rpm's and if I use my defrost I shut off the A/C most of the time. I drive it easy for the break in period, not to rev above 4000 rpm's like the manual suggests. But holy cow it drinks like a truck!! Temperature is brutal in Winnipeg, Canada -40c or -40f, I warm the car up between two to five minutes and then drive to work. but I can't beleive how much gas it uses. ANY suggestions would be grateful. I read somewhere on this forum that they can adjust the computer on the car. I drive 60/40 city hwy aprox. Should I be patient with the break in period?? A far cry from the 30 US mpg avg's people are getting. I think I'm the worst one out there!!Thanks to anyone with answers.

[michelkenny]

I'm in Winnipeg also. Before we had our cold spell, I was getting 10.9 or 11.4L/100km, which I thought was pretty decent considering it was still a new car (< 1000 kms) and it's winter. During the last couple of weeks of -40C, and me getting a remote car starter and letting my car idle for 5 minutes each morning, my last fill gave me 14.5L/100km. I'm just assuming it is because I let it idle and the fact that it's always below -30C, so the engine is less efficient.

[marleyfan]

I'm at just over 4000km. I'm getting an average over the last 6 tanks of about 21MPG US. I'm patiently waiting for the magic break in period to end so my mileage gets better. I have an appt with Nissan soon and they are going to check things out. My advice to you...move out of Winnipeg. Just kidding. I do hope you guys have a block heater running tho.

[motoguy128]

MY Versa dropped to around 22-25mpg since it's dropped consitently under 20F and we had some ice and snow that required warming up the car to avoid heavy scraping and to defog the windows.

My fiancee's Altima gets 17-20mpg in this weather. My '03 Honda Accord with 4 cyl used to get only 18-20mpg with the same type of driving in the winter. SO in perspective, my Versa isnt too bad. Althouhg my Toyota Corolla never dropped below 30mpg, unless I was towing a trailer. With a 1500lb trailer going 75-80mph, I got just over 20mpg.

[Bubs daddy]

Mine's still getting 31 mpg.

Course, it was 79 degrees today...

[marleyfan]

79!? Damn that global warming!!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[proxim2020]

79!? Damn that global warming!!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Let's not throw stones at the beehive, even if it's for fun.

[jacksan1]

I live in Minnesota, and while the temp in my area does not quite hit the arctic level that Winnipeg does, it does get cold enough around here to affect the gas mileage. For instance, it was -17 degrees F yesterday morning when I was leaving for work.

We don't drive a V. We have a Subaru Forester and a Honda Fit. The Forester averages 24.5 MPG in non-winter conditions, and drops down to about 22 when it gets cold, so that's a drop of about 11%. Our Fit (AT), bought last November, got 28.4 MPG during the recent cold spell (low of -17F and no temp above 0 F for 3 days), with the last five tanks averaging 30.2 MPG. The same Fit averages 32 MPG in the "normal" temp, so that's a drop of about 6%. We drive 60/40 city/highway.

[7speed]

Also, remember that when you are warming up your car in the morning for a couple minutes (which I know is important when it's frigid), you are getting an awesome ZERO mpg. Only when you start to move does you fuel economy improve. If you think your V drinks like a truck now, imagine what actual trucks are getting while they warm up in the driveway/garage/street or wherever they might be. I'd wait until summer before I totally trash on my economy. My Golf drops from 600km/tank in the summer to 450-500km/tank in the winter (mostly city driving)

My .02

[GoodbyeCavalier]

I too have been having issures, Ive started filling it up more often, only letting the tank get between 1/2 and 3/4 full, this means more weight for traction, which has bumbed it up to just over 27 mpg in averaging 15-25 deg f. Ive read where some people have gotten better results from switching to mobile 1 oil. im coming up on my first change soon , hope that fixes it!!

[Buzzardbob]

We just did our first fill and got 34.9 mpg in cold Northeast weather. We have a 6 speed and do commuter and highway mileage and have 700 miles on the car.

[Slither]

Despite what others say I still think the Versa is a mini gas hog..I've had mine 6 months and seen no improvement in mileage.

I read (Wikipedia) that Nissan is soon to introduce the Versa to the U.K.I have friends over there that drive turbo diesels that average 55 mpg mixed driving.

I hope Nissan go plunk their Renault Scenic plant in the U.K. Versa because they'll get their butts whipped over there. Europeans won't settle for 21 mpg from an econobox - not even an otherwise good one.

[tama48]

*** POST EDITED BY EVER VICTORIOUS DUE TO INFLAMMATORY / "POKING THE BEES NEST" COMMENT

Tama... make this comment one more time, I will arrange a vacation for you. We know you are wrong, you know you are wrong, so knock it off.

[marleyfan]

How many times does it need to be said that Nissan, nor any other car company, doesnt provide the EPA ratings. Nissan merely passes along the numbers they are provided. Don't blame Nissan for using those number in their ads, just as ever other car company does.

[Clipsed]

79!? Damn that global warming!!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

lol global warming??? He lives in Phoenix Arizona! It is the desert!!!

[proxim2020]

How many times does it need to be said that Nissan, nor any other car company, doesnt provide the EPA ratings. Nissan merely passes along the numbers they are provided. Don't blame Nissan for using those number in their ads, just as ever other car company does.

[TweeKeer]

Despite what others say I still think the Versa is a mini gas hog..I've had mine 6 months and seen no improvement in mileage.

I read (Wikipedia) that Nissan is soon to introduce the Versa to the U.K.I have friends over there that drive turbo diesels that average 55 mpg mixed driving.

I hope Nissan go plunk their Renault Scenic plant in the U.K. Versa because they'll get their butts whipped over there. Europeans won't settle for 21 mpg from an econobox - not even an otherwise good one.

The Versa won't be an "econobox" in the UK or the rest of Europe. It's more of an average size family car.

[kc5f]

Don't blame Nissan for using those number in their ads, just as ever other car company does.

Actually, I just saw a new ad for Corollas, and they're still using the 41 mpg rating from the old standards instead of the refigured 37 mpg. Sounds like Toyota's even worse in their advertising deception!

[XterraVersa]

Actually, I just saw a new ad for Corollas, and they're still using the 41 mpg rating from the old standards instead of the refigured 37 mpg. Sounds like Toyota's even worse in their advertising deception!

So is every other car company. The revised figures are not to be used until the 2008 model years. The current standard is what is required thru the 2007 model years. What they post is required by FEDERAL LAW!!! They have no way of choosing what EPA standard to use. Folks get over it. MPG is largely based on how YOU drive. Look at EVs gas mileage survey.

The EPA number are meant for comparisons between vehicles anyway, not what you are promised to get. I am averaging over 37 mpg with over 10,000 miles on my Versa. I need to sue Nissan because I am not getting their advertised fuel economy and I can not do my part to keep the oil industry in business .

[motoguy128]

Except that I could actually get 40-41 in my Corolla crusing on the freeway. I'm not upset, but Toyota simply has a more effecient engine design. The perfect compact car... has the Corolla engine with a belt driven cam, a Honda or Mazda 6 speed, and the dimensions and quiet interior of the Versa.

[marleyfan]

I am averaging over 37 mpg with over 10,000 miles on my Versa.

And we all hate you for it

[Ever Victorious]

I seriously have no idea how many more times we can beat this horse to death, but here we go.

Fuel economy is about conditions. About knowns and unknowns. You can control the knowns, such as how you drive, use of your air conditioner, whether you drive city or freeway, how much weight you carry. You cannot always control the unknowns.. condition of your fuel, fuel injectors, and engine are good examples. True, if you have 200,000 miles on your car you can control engine condition by rebuilding it or replacing it, but there's nothing you realistically can do at 10,000 miles.

That being said, I was able to get 34 MPG on highway trips, averaged 30 mpg in mixed driving until the last 3 tanks, all on moderate driving and relatively heavy A/C use and averaging 100 pounds of cargo at all times.

I'm able, with my Legacy, to average 24 MPG mixed under the same conditions (Except that the A/C doesn't work, so I don't use it). I have also been able to get 28 MPG on a highway trip with it. It is rated at 20/26 by the EPA... so I guess I'm with Xterra, I have to sue Subaru because my car gets too good of gas mileage.

I don't doubt that there are certain engine/car designs that will perform similarly on the street as they do in the EPA testing. That is purely a fluke, IMO.

As has been stated before, the EPA ratings are used for comparing different types of vehicles, as well as providing a ROUGH guideline of the kind of fuel economy that can be expected under normal conditions.

and clipsed - do you feel better that I have edited someone ELSE's post this time?

[audtatious]

^^^

There are too many variables to compare one persons mileage against anothers. As far as complaining about estimated MPG, complain to the EPA.

FWIW, I have seen >44mpg in my Maxima, all due to driving conditions. At the time I was only going 30mph on a flat stretch (bout 3 miles total) of road on a mild sunny day. I have also been on the highway doing 80mph and seen mid-30's, but this is not the norm nor did I expect it to stay that way.

[Slither]

21 mpg from an average size car in Europe is appalling... I bet they plunk a smaller unit in the UK Versa.

[Kolk1]

I drive in St Louis every day. And bought my Versa brand new, and now have over 5000 miles on it. I drive hard, and fast, normally about 80mph, and I have Not ONCE dropped below 30mpg. I normally get gas with roughly 325-350 miles on the tank, with using right at 10-11 gallons. Im normally at 31-32mpg average.