motor swap?

[xtremeversa]

just curious... could a 350Z motor go in a nissan versa? maybe with the transmission? has anyone ever thought to take another nissan motor and put it in the versa??? any ideas??

[fjwagner]

Why? The car might break apart or disintegrate with all that power! Or make the rattles worse

[silverarrow27]

With money, anything is possible.

[superskunk]

this is true....

[MinisterofDOOM]

350z is RWD. With a longitudinal transmission.Versa is FWD. With a transverse transaxle. The two are not compatible.

Unless you basically redesigned the entire car to accept a RWD drivetrain, the 350z motor and trans are not an option. The Versa is about as incompatible with it as a car can get.

You could possibly, theoretically put a FWD VQ35 in the Versa with one of the many FWD transmissions that came with it (5 or 6 speed manual). But that is based on a lot of assumptions.

I think the better question is: why swap a VQ35 into a Versa instead of buying a car with a VQ35 in the first place? And no, I'm not another anti-modification guy. But the realities of any motor swap relegate the option solely to the realm of those wanting to be outrageous for the sake of outrageousness and at the cost of much money, time, and frustration.

[superskunk]

people are tired of the conventional swaps... that would be a pretty good power to weight ratio if the VQ swap ever happend....

[Red Devil]

people are tired of the conventional swaps... that would be a pretty good power to weight ratio if the VQ swap ever happend....

It'd screw up weight distribution though. All that extra mass is going to throw it off and affect handling.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I honestly doubt there's much difference in weight. The VQ is all aluminum, big-bore, and pretty damn light. I'd be willing to bet that the VQ weighs at most 50lb more than the MR18. If you're talking about a FWD VQ35, the 6 speed manual is very similar to the Versa's so there wouldn't be much change there. Not even enough change to throw off suspension dynamics.

[biggie]

Would have to move the firewall back a couple feet probably to fit a VQ in.

[Reed19x]

List of VQ engines: None of these seem likely... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...0DETT

But, here's a list of the SR engines. The SR20DET being the most popular to swap into 240s. People claim to have swapped them into Sentra's/SE-R's as well, which is a small FWD car like the Versa (obviously different though)...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_SR_engine

You'd probably have better luck swapping in a SR20DET or SR20DE if you wanted to do a swap. And if you successfully do it, I'll be in line right behind you to do the same. Ask the 240 guys, they know alot about engine swapping.

Sidenote: There was an issue of import tuner where someone swapped a V8 Titan engine into a G35...SICK!

[MinisterofDOOM]

But, here's a list of the SR engines. The SR20DET being the most popular to swap into 240s. People claim to have swapped them into Sentra's/SE-R's as well, which is a small FWD car like the Versa (obviously different though)...

SR was avalable in FWD layouts, too. B13 and B14 Sentra SE-Rs came from the factory with SRs. Early SE B15s had the SR, too, before the switch to the QG18. The Pulsar outside the US came with a turbo SR in the GTiR variant. The G20 also came with a FWD SR here in the US.

[2dr_sentra]

But, here's a list of the SR engines. The SR20DET being the most popular to swap into 240s. People claim to have swapped them into Sentra's/SE-R's as wel

ROFL, they came with SR's

the b13 se-r, 200sx se-r, sentra se-l, sentra se.

[Red Devil]

Don't understand the idea for any swap that places an older engine into the car. If anything a FWD VQ swap is the best idea. I can guarantee swapping an SR would be wiring hell.

[biggie]

QR25 is probably a much more realistic goal to fit in the car, but not THAT much better for all the work to be involved.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Don't understand the idea for any swap that places an older engine into the car.

Age means nothing, especially when you're comparing economy motors. The SR was designed to make lots of power from the factory in a number of cars. The MR18 is not. Nissan made some fantastic motors in the past that are still superior to anything they make today (like the VH45DE V8).

Chevy's small block V8 is a very old core design and yet superior to almost anything else out there.

Age is not relevant. The PURPOSE and engineering that went into the motor is what matters.

[biggie]

Age means nothing, especially when you're comparing economy motors. The SR was designed to make lots of power from the factory in a number of cars. The MR18 is not. Nissan made some fantastic motors in the past that are still superior to anything they make today (like the VH45DE V8).

Chevy's small block V8 is a very old core design and yet superior to almost anything else out there.

Age is not relevant. The PURPOSE and engineering that went into the motor is what matters.

Could matter in legality though. Emissions states have laws against it and then the ones that require a working OBD2 port for emissions checks.

[Red Devil]

Age means nothing, especially when you're comparing economy motors. The SR was designed to make lots of power from the factory in a number of cars. The MR18 is not. Nissan made some fantastic motors in the past that are still superior to anything they make today (like the VH45DE V8).

Chevy's small block V8 is a very old core design and yet superior to almost anything else out there.

Age is not relevant. The PURPOSE and engineering that went into the motor is what matters.

I'm talking about age of the motor, not design.

[ADOversa]

It'd screw up weight distribution though. All that extra mass is going to throw it off and affect handling.

Exactly what I was thinking. That thing would understeer like a mother.

[grogman]

Exactly what I was thinking. That thing would understeer like a mother.

...........hey............i'm pretty sure cars are designed around engines not like the old days when you could put a 426 hemi in a dodge dart w/o much trouble.....i'm pretty sure you have to let the mr18de do it's thing. someone might know all this here..........i don't even think you can put a qg engine under that hood................it's a french design that nissan tweaked and that's all there is to it............

[Red Devil]

...........hey............i'm pretty sure cars are designed around engines not like the old days when you could put a 426 hemi in a dodge dart w/o much trouble.....i'm pretty sure you have to let the mr18de do it's thing. someone might know all this here..........i don't even think you can put a qg engine under that hood................it's a french design that nissan tweaked and that's all there is to it............

It's a jointly designed engine, not a single design that was tweaked for Nissan.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I'm talking about age of the motor, not design.

Oh. Yeah. Ok.

It's a jointly designed engine, not a single design that was tweaked for Nissan.

Exactly. Think of Nissan and Renault as the same entity.

[grogman]

It's a jointly designed engine, not a single design that was tweaked for Nissan.

...........the only hope for the v in the performance segment is the turbo and that would be awesome for some of us. i just want to make my v look cool not some overblown project where the plastic skirting is dragging down the street someday......

[W O T]

Im sure it would be much cheaper and funner to simply build the versa motor with some nice rods n pistons and headwork, and build a turbo kit and throw 15+ psi at it and make a FWD tire burner

[sKyWaLkeR512]

I entirely agree with the turbo. I think even a small setup with a side-mount intercooler (similar to stock K's Silvia) pushing 8 lbs would give our lovely little light-weight cars enough oomph to make someone notice.

[Red Devil]

I entirely agree with the turbo. I think even a small setup with a side-mount intercooler (similar to stock K's Silvia) pushing 8 lbs would give our lovely little light-weight cars enough oomph to make someone notice.

It depends on the compression ratio of the engine. Anything 11:1 and over isn't very agreeable with forced induction. Ideally you want something in the 9:1 range.

[MinisterofDOOM]

It depends on the compression ratio of the engine. Anything 11:1 and over isn't very agreeable with forced induction. Ideally you want something in the 9:1 range.

You're most likely going to want to upgrade the MR's rods and pistons anyway, so that's not too big an issue.

[lovesaga]

I entirely agree with the turbo. I think even a small setup with a side-mount intercooler (similar to stock K's Silvia) pushing 8 lbs would give our lovely little light-weight cars enough oomph to make someone notice.

Hehe I was just talking with some friends about that. Sadly I don't have the money .

Oh yea BTY a VQ 3.5 could be put in a versa. They do it in Sentras.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...edded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...edded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...edded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...edded

Fixed the links - biggie.

[lovesaga]

copy and paste url just some vq swaped sentras.

[biggie]

Hehe I was just talking with some friends about that. Sadly I don't have the money .

Oh yea BTY a VQ 3.5 could be put in a versa. They do it in Sentras.

Go you think there is the same room in a B15 as a Versa though? REALLY doubt it.

[VersaMG08]

If people were to do a swap, why not buy the real thing? That is a lot of work to do and the hassle it takes, you're just better off getting something better like a '09 Sentra SE-R Spec V. Makes more financial sense to me.

Stick with the simple mods like CAI, header, exhaust etc...