motor mounts

[okinawa drift]

My current motor mounts are skakey as f**k and it annoying when it sits at idle because its so shaky.. would nismo motor mounts for my ka24e fit the sr? cuz i plan on getting an sr eventually..

[24j0hn]

it does 4 sure... and the best thing is that u dont have to take out your engine 2 do it! just loosen and lift!

[miracleboi123]

yeha their both compatible, heres a link to the engine mounts for both http://www.frsport.com/Nismo-E....html

[!Zar!]

If you don't like vibration, installing Nismo mounts is not what you want to do.

OEM engine mounts is what you should go with since you don't like the quality of idle that nismo mounts will give you from the sound of it.

KA/SR mounts are the same.

[miracleboi123]

any mount upgrade besides using oem mounts would help your engine shake problem. i dont know what your talking about.

[okinawa drift]

If you don't like vibration, installing Nismo mounts is not what you want to do.

OEM engine mounts is what you should go with since you don't like the quality of idle that nismo mounts will give you from the sound of it.

KA/SR mounts are the same.

hmmm everyone sugested that i get new motor mounts cuz my engine feels shakey in the car, are you saying these nismo one's won't do anything and my car will still feel shakey?

[miracleboi123]

no, i'm not sure if the guy ^^ knows what hes saying, any upgrade of engine mounts will make your car smoother. Thats why its a good thing to upgrade mounts when it comes to cornering, issueing w/ weight delivery and such. Just go w/ nismo, your engine is guaranteed to shake less.

[okinawa drift]

alright thanks for advice miracle, yeah i'm tired of my **** being so shakey... i have $250 to spend, i was gonna buy new brakes but i need new mounts lol

[SirSilvia]

dude buying new mounts in general will help IMMENSELY with the shake problem..hmmm, shotty 20 year old mounts or brand new mounts that are umm NEW....I got the NISMO ones and it helps a lot. the egine will still flex left and right when revved, but no where near like with the old ones. Personally I don't think that a solid rigid mount is better either. You need a little dampening so that it doesn't put any unnecessary strain on the cross member and whatnot.

[miracleboi123]

no problem, yeah see the review for them above this reply^. it helped him and he is definitely right. age does play a big factor in an older car. as for brakes, yeha how much brake power does a s13 need?[unless it has major HP] but yeah after you upgrade ur mounts, just go for drilled rotors + pads. remember the front brakes do the majority of the work!

[okinawa drift]

lol thought so, gonna order these badboys on monday

[miracleboi123]

good luck !

[SirSilvia]

believe it or not I got the whole set, engine mounts and transmission mount, off egay for $99. It will raise the height of your car back to stock height though, I had a strut bar and it no longer fits. anyone wanna buy it?

[Romeo_rus]

I have a set of stock motor mounts which came with RB25det swap... if want them for $40 - they are yours...

[!Zar!]

hmmm everyone sugested that i get new motor mounts cuz my engine feels shakey in the car, are you saying these nismo one's won't do anything and my car will still feel shakey?

I said you need NEW OEM engine mounts since cabin vibration is annoying you.

The ones in there right now are shot if they are the original ones from the factory.

no, i'm not sure if the guy ^^ knows what hes saying, any upgrade of engine mounts will make your car smoother. Thats why its a good thing to upgrade mounts when it comes to cornering, issueing w/ weight delivery and such. Just go w/ nismo, your engine is guaranteed to shake less.

I know exactly what I'm talking about.

Nismo mounts are solid.

Solid mounts will transfer the engine vibrations into the cabin and vibrate the cabin at idle.

[SirSilvia]

I don't know if I'm reading you wrong or what but Nismo mounts aren't solid, they're basically just like stock but with a stiffer rubber in them.They're better, but I can get under the hood and press the throttle and see my engine torque left and right ever so slightly, maybe something like a 1/2" at most. Nothing like old azz ones that my engine moved almost an 1 1/2 back and forth. these right here are solid mounts and WILL transfer more vibrations through the body of the car.Take a look at the Nismo mounts.see the two bolts? they do not line up because they are not one piece. there are two main metal pieces that the studs are welded/pressed into. and alternating rubber and metal till the other side. It's meant to flex a little.

if it's your entire car shaking and vibrating hard, then you have two things...1) girlfriend loves the ride 2) somthing in the engine is possibly out of balance, or something else making the engine shudder.

[woah]

dude after my car accident last year my car was shaking like a crack head. i got nismo mounts and installed it and its way bettterr. try checking the price at the nismo store shop in north covina online. i rember it was th cheapest i could find. installation was a ***** though. on the passenger side my breaker bar was to big.

[Skilz10179]

I've been doing a lot of searching and reading on these Nismo mounts lately and there seems to be some confusion on how much they will raise the motor. Some people using them claim they don't rasie the motor at all and other claim their motor now sits about .75" higher with the Nismo mounts. It seems that there are multiple part #'s for the same mounts which may explain why some people had issues with a raised motor and some don't....

I've also read a lot of confusion about switching mounts, putting the left monut on the right side and the right mount on the left side. I've read some people say "it is a must" and i've heard others say they installed them without switching. I have also read that is you have a KA you must switch them but if you have a SR you don't. Searching on this site does a whole lot of good when most of the people posting don't have a clue...

[!Zar!]

I don't know if I'm reading you wrong or what but Nismo mounts aren't solid, they're basically just like stock but with a stiffer rubber in them.They're better, but I can get under the hood and press the throttle and see my engine torque left and right ever so slightly, maybe something like a 1/2" at most. Nothing like old azz ones that my engine moved almost an 1 1/2 back and forth. these right here are solid mounts and WILL transfer more vibrations through the body of the car.http://www.bicperformance.com/...t.JPGTake a look at the Nismo mounts.see the two bolts? they do not line up because they are not one piece. there are two main metal pieces that the studs are welded/pressed into. and alternating rubber and metal till the other side. It's meant to flex a little.http://www.frsport.com/product...3.jpg

if it's your entire car shaking and vibrating hard, then you have two things...1) girlfriend loves the ride 2) somthing in the engine is possibly out of balance, or something else making the engine shudder.

Glad you acknowledged you weren't sure on my comment unlike most of the other brain dead people who seem to post around here.

When I said solid, I was talking solid rubber, not metal or anthing.Nismo are rubber all the way though while the stock ones have grease inside of them.

When a car runs for hundreds of thousands of miles that grease starts to ooze out.

When that happens the engine mount is useless and your engine will flop around like a five dollar crack wh0re's vagina. That is where I believe the OP is getting problems from. But I'm pretty sure his problem goes deeper than engine mounts.

I've been doing a lot of searching and reading on these Nismo mounts lately and there seems to be some confusion on how much they will raise the motor. Some people using them claim they don't rasie the motor at all and other claim their motor now sits about .75" higher with the Nismo mounts. It seems that there are multiple part #'s for the same mounts which may explain why some people had issues with a raised motor and some don't....

I've also read a lot of confusion about switching mounts, putting the left monut on the right side and the right mount on the left side. I've read some people say "it is a must" and i've heard others say they installed them without switching. I have also read that is you have a KA you must switch them but if you have a SR you don't. Searching on this site does a whole lot of good when most of the people posting don't have a clue...

As for the other post, the engine sits higher for two reasons.

It's stiffer than the OEM engine mount. So it will not compress at all when you drop the motor.

As well as like I keep saying, the old mounts start to wear out and the grease on the inside escapes the engine mount. When that happens the engine falls further down into the engine bay.

Once you install the nismo mounts (maybe even new oem mounts; cant remember) the bottom of the oil pan will be flush/higher than the sway bar.

But you will not run into clearance issues with your hood. So there is no need to worry about that.

The comment on running the mounts reversed? There is no need for that.

Left/Left, Right/Right.

[stutterr]

I have a Ka24E as well, with motor mounts that are just begging to be replaced. I have heard a ton of stuff about the mounts raising the engine, etc etc. I have come to the conclusion that I do not want Nismo Mounts because they are just a little stiffer than stock, but still the same dumb design.

I am either going with

A. http://www.driftopia.com/2007/...ounts/

Hockey Puck Motor Mounts. Engine sits lower, stiffer, and much cheaper!

B. http://www.jgsturbo.com/kamain.html#anchor406138

JGS make some bad a$$ engine and trans mounts.

Yes AZhitman, did make some mounts using a liquid that sets. I wasn't too fond of the idea.

I think just like most Nismo parts, they are just glorified stock stuff.

[!Zar!]

Why is everyone so obsessed over lowering their motor?

I was happy as fcuk when I noticed how high my engine sat after I was finished with it.

The lower the engine, the closer the oilpan is to the ground.

The closer/more exposed it is, the higher the chances of it becoming damaged.

[stutterr]

Bottom line Nismo mounts suck. Like some Nismo suspension parts, they are just glorified stock parts.

[ashibah83]

Bottom line Nismo mounts suck. Like some Nismo suspension parts, they are just glorified stock parts.

yeah.....Nismo mounts suck

because im sure you had and compared so many types of mounts that your an expert on the subject

when you car is a DD, and you want comfort more than rigidity there probably your best bet other than OE replacement, and being Nismo there a quality piece that do exactly what there designed to do

Why is everyone so obsessed over lowering their motor?

i dont ant to lower my motor being my car is a dd, but i can see the benefit of lowering the engine for pure racing purposes, lowering the center of gravity of the car, much the same way most serious racers use bottom mount manifolds on there turbo applications, to keep the weight lower on the chassis

[Skilz10179]

As for the other post, the engine sits higher for two reasons.

It's stiffer than the OEM engine mount. So it will not compress at all when you drop the motor.

As well as like I keep saying, the old mounts start to wear out and the grease on the inside escapes the engine mount. When that happens the engine falls further down into the engine bay.

Once you install the nismo mounts (maybe even new oem mounts; cant remember) the bottom of the oil pan will be flush/higher than the sway bar.

But you will not run into clearance issues with your hood. So there is no need to worry about that.

The comment on running the mounts reversed? There is no need for that.

Left/Left, Right/Right.

The mounts being firmer and not old/broken down doesn't seem to be the only reason that they sometimes make a motor sit higher. Some people have measured different part # Nismo mount and got taller than oem mount measurments. Check out this post zerothread/194877

Like i said, i've done a lot of searching but keep coming up with mixed results.

Why is everyone so obsessed over lowering their motor?

I was happy as fcuk when I noticed how high my engine sat after I was finished with it.

The lower the engine, the closer the oilpan is to the ground.

The closer/more exposed it is, the higher the chances of it becoming damaged.

I'm not concerned with lowering the motor but i am concerned with keeping my motor at the correct height. I understand that more ground clearance is a good thing but so is keeping my strut tower brace from rubbing against my valve cover and keeping my exhaust fitment correct without causing leaks.

Bottom line Nismo mounts suck. Like some Nismo suspension parts, they are just glorified stock parts.

Stock parts = better quality than aftermarket 9 times out of 10. That is the main reason i am interested in the Nismo mounts, they are firmer than stock but still maintain oem quality.

[!Zar!]

Come on.

Center of Gravity?

come on.

We aren't racing formula 1 cars.

And I know for sure you won't be able to feel the difference in handeling on a car with a top mount turbo.

9/10 don't even know where the GC is located on their car, let alone care.

The small height difference will not make or break a car.

I've used nismo mounts and never ran into STB/hood rubbing.

[Skilz10179]

Come on.

Center of Gravity?

come on.

We aren't racing formula 1 cars.

And I know for sure you won't be able to feel the difference in handeling on a car with a top mount turbo.

9/10 don't even know where the GC is located on their car, let alone care.

The small height difference will not make or break a car.

I've used nismo mounts and never ran into STB/hood rubbing.

HUH???

Who said anything about center of gravity???

You may have not had issues with any clearance problems but other have, this is why i'm researching before i buy.

[ashibah83]

Come on.

And I know for sure you won't be able to feel the difference in handeling on a car with a top mount turbo.

The small height difference will not make or break a car.

have you ever put your car on corner scales???

have you ever installed a turbo kit then re-balanced your car on corner scales????

it WILL make a difference to a SERIOUS race car, it wont make or break the car but it will help if the car is balanced properly

and no you wont be able to feel a difference, you will be able to read it on the lap times, you wont have as much weight above the centerline of the car so you wont have as much weight to keep in check during transverse movement of the vehicle

but none of that matters to the OP, nismo mounts will be good for his application
Modified by ashibah83 at 2:59 PM 2/15/2009

[Emperor_Tha]

Nismo mount has the least vibration compared to anything else on the market.

U can use a used oem mount with a torque damper.

[AZhitman]

Yes AZhitman, did make some mounts using a liquid that sets. I wasn't too fond of the idea.

Reasoning?

They've held up to 400hp for nearly 2 years. Less vibration than the stockers, and I got to set my engine mount height.

[motoxris]

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http://www.homedepot.com/webap...02487

Get a couple cans. Squirt it on your engine and Transmission mounts. Use a tongue depressor ( wide Popsicle stick) to spread it around smoothly. If you can, allow it to sit for a couple days after applying. It works great and it's only a few bucks a can. My transmission and engine are super solid now. My shifter doesn't shake one bit. And I enjoy driving my car a lot more now.