Motor F@Cked?

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MaKaVe1i
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Sunday, pretty much raced down the mainstreet doing excess speeding, on a day that the news reported that we where have triple digit weather, well, 2 days prior to the "tragady" my oil light went on in the morning, i added a quart of Lucas 100% petroleum oil, light goes off, "life goes on" i told my self. well back to sunday, i was racing this ls/vtec from a red light. We go and in 3rd gear at about 5k rpms my rpm needle stops going and i feel no power, i shift and still nothing,, my cluster lights go on and i pull over. pop the hood adn check the oil, about 2 or less quarts of oil in their. i check the coolant, about at the minumum line, and i add water. I den go buy 2 quarts of 20w50 synthetic blend and 1 quart of Lucas, i put it in and oil reads at the maximum line. i start it and let it run for a while and then it dies. i fire it back up and den i proced to go home (1 mile). i notice large amounts of white smoke coming out of my exhuast, i park on my uphill parkingspace, and i leave it for the morning. on the way home i could hear a noise (noise similar to a stick being stuck in a bike tire with spokes. I get home and after an hour i come back out and turn it on, that noise is loud but soon goes completely away and the engine continues to idle at 500. turn it off, go in the house, smoked a joint and went to sleep.Monday Morning, i check radiator, full of green coolant (duh), check spark plugs, nearest one to the front of the car is loose, oil covering the metel threading of it, the two middle spark plugs r clean, the last one has oil on it also.i had a ripped exhuast gasket, but i didnt have time to get it fixed, could dat have anything to do wiht it.

what happend and wat do i have to do?'


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Smoked a joint huh? Were you at least beating the LS/Vtech? I hope so. It sounds like to me your motor is screwed. I'd check the compression though.

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masticatingcow
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Yeah, your motor sounds fuqed.

I don't know if your blown exhaust gasket has anything to do with the problem (it might, but I don't know...) The loose spark plug is bad news. Pull it and check the tip... you could have detonated the cylinder.

Oil on the plug just confirms what white smoke tells you... you're burning oil. That's why your oil kept getting low.

As was stated, check the compression, expect it to be low on the foremost cylinder and be ready to shell out for some repairs. LOL, and I hope you've got some good California hybrid because when you get the bill to fix your SR you will be really sad. REALLY SAD.

Well, good luck man. Hope it works out.

MaKaVe1i
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how much am i looking to fix?or is it beeter to get new head?or whats recomended?

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masticatingcow wrote:Oil on the plug just confirms what white smoke tells you... you're burning oil. That's why your oil kept getting low.


White smoke=coolantBlue smoke=oilBlack smoke=fuel

MaKaVe1i
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but y is their oil in the spark plugs and y is it shooting white smoke?dats weird....

Do you guyz see whats wrong?

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I shoot fire. What's that on the chart ;)

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No one can tell what is wrong without knowing what a compression test turned up. Run a compression test and let us know how it turned out. You can also pull you intake tubing after the turbo and see how much oil is in there. It is possible your turbo seals went bad.

MaKaVe1i
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well, i barely got the compression tester today, tmorow i wil try, i did remove one tube, i think its the one that is right in front of the exhuast manifold, it had some oil on it. Well, any more info is appreciated untill i get the results of the compression tomorow

MainEvent212
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eh, your turbo is probably blown...that in turn caused some internal problems in your car...and that's about when your hyperdrive flux meter should have been reading at least 1 full omega...but i donno

MaKaVe1i
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hyperdrive flux meter should have been reading at least 1 full omega...????????????English plz?what is it and wur is it?

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he was joking about the last comment you goob. Put the doobie down.

MaKaVe1i
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ahhaah, im smoking away my problems in my room with a ounce of ganja :)

MaKaVe1i
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idles at 500 rpms constantly now

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Dori Dori
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The noise you described sounds like a spun bearing which would make sense since you were running w/ low oil.

MaKaVe1i
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disconnected both pipes that go into the turbo, both had oil in them, the two inner spark plugs wur covered in light brown oil. i coudnt reach far enough to spin the shaft or blades. i need now to do a compression test. Does anyone think kuz the turbo blew is the resean y theirs oil in the spark plugz other then it being caused by blown piston rings.

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light brown oil = coolant mixed...

You got a blown headgasket... and possibly if ran enough, a fried turbocharger and a bottom end rod bearing goin out.

MaKaVe1i
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its only dark black oil, not light brown.

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f150intally wrote:White smoke=coolantBlue smoke=oilBlack smoke=fuel


Wrong, oil can be white smoke as well. Dont believe me? Come watch my rings try to seat...that ***** be burning white.

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Zadok
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This is a good rule of thumb!If you are constatly low on oil, and your not leaking it, you must be burning it. Anyway you look at it, low oil\oil pressure is not good for any engine, especially a turbo engine!There are multiple things that could have happened!Here's a whole bunch of things to check.

If it only smokes when you get it into boost, most likely is the turbo bearings or seals.If your turbo is shot though, I imagine you would have heard it squealing when you got into boost. My T25 just took a crap and that was the sound it made. No funny exhaust smoke for me though?

If the exhaust is real sweet smelling and burns your eyes, that's coolant, and you can bet you blew your head gasket.Also check your coolant over flow tank to see if there is brownish deposits in it. Usaually when you blow a head gasket the oil and coolant mixes, and the coolant is crappy brown looking, and the oil is foamy!

If you have really low compression in any of the cylinders, you probably fried a ring. And that would smoke real bad the higher the RPM's go, and a little at idle.

The ticking sound is usually a rod or crank bearing that has spun, due to oil starvation.

And if I can give you one bit of advice!Don't ever run that Lucas crap in your car ever again.That crap killed one of my Subarus! Never Again!

Drain your oil, and run cheap oil through it for a couple of minutes, then change the filter and put in good oil; Castrol, Mobil 1, something made for turbo cars or race cars!I run Mobil 1 15w50.Then see where you stand!It sounds dumb, and a waist of time and money, but it has worked in the past for me!

Good Luck!

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my coolant resevoir had brown-mud like stuff covering the walls. hmmm. my sr runs great tho.

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Morph
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MaKaVe1i dude what happened to your motor?

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Zadok, that is all REALLY good information. I'd love to talk with you about a very very strange puff of smoke issue i'm having.

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one of your problems is that you were running 20-50 in your motor.. you probably starved the bearings.. thats your noise... as far as the smoke you could of blown your h/ gasket, but theres a good possibility u didnt because it sounds like theres no oil in the water...your turbo is another problem... starved? oil inthe piping is agood sign of a blown turbo seal.... also smoke....

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Nothing is wrong with 50 weight oils in an SR. I've seen many peeps put it in their SR's to autocross on different forums. Hell, I use 0w-40 in mine since day 1. The thing about heavier oils is, let the motor warm up before you beat on it.

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The fast tapping or clicking sound could be just the lifters deflating for lack of complete oil pressure. Or in a worse case scenario, you could have spun a rod bearing. Both of these have in fact happened to me in my CA18DET.

The oil in the cylinders is most likely a blown head gasket. A compression test will most likely tell you that the cylinders that have oil on spark plug will have low compression.

White smoke coming out COULD have a blueish tint to it, but when I blew the oil seals on my turbo, it definately smelled like oil and was oil burning and was complete WHITE.

I run 15w50 and I beat the crap out of my SR and it is fine.


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