most powerful KA??????

Post by **R.I.P._Racing** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:12 pm

is it a total waste of time to build a KA? I have searched for weeks for dyno sheets or anything to find out what is the most power you can make with a na KA? if you have any info post it I think it is a topic lots of people are interested in.

I simple comes down to if it is worth building a ka or dropping in a SR or RB and just deal with the BULL@^@$@# of finding a smog guy

let me know guys later

Post by **pregmantis** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:37 pm

whats your application? I beleive they have some reaching 350hp NA. Streetable? whats streetable to you?

Post by **Musthavego** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:24 pm

Same question... '96 240sx... my concern is cost and emission testing.Wouldn't it be more cost effective to build on my KA, rather than buying a whole "new" (SR) engine, performing the swap, and then still having to buy parts? Can't you build a KA that will still compete with SR's? I've heard they will withstand a great deal of boost. Why shouldn't I build a KA, instead of shelling out the money for a SR swap and build? Thanks

Post by **Aworkinprogress** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:31 pm

TURBO!!! leave the high powered NA KA's to the pro's with money. if your like me and have a budget TURBO your KA.....I am going to get shot for saying that....forgive me please!

Post by **Musthavego** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:41 pm

Thanks. What kind of turbo set up do you have and have? Pleased with it?Any other mods?

Post by **Florida240sx** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:44 pm

You can get a complete kit from our sponsor. But if you have mech abilities I'd piece one together. I just bought so I knew everythign was htere in new.Could of pieced oen together and saved probably 33%. Which is what I"m doing for my vert.Now that my hands are dirty and know what to do, I can build my own kit with confidence.

Post by **R.I.P._Racing** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:13 pm

well I would like some HP in the realm of 300 to 400. I have no cap on budget at all I can drop in a RB26 tomorrow if I wanted but the HUGE problem here in napa is NO WAY to get stuff smoged most of the people around that would help out with that stuff have been popped! MY little bro owns a company doing just after market up grades so he gets me anything fast but I just wanted to find out if I could build a KA to large HP and still pass smog. If it is not worth it My bro is going to just put in a RB26 with a new trans cause the one I have is about to take a ****. if anyone finds some info on NA KA let me know

I just don't see how a Honda B16 can make 280 HP NA and a a KA24 has trouble getting out of it's own way ( LOL )

well good luck guys

Post by **Aworkinprogress** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:17 pm

well i have no turbo set up yet so no real hand experience...but the KA can make alot of power through a turbo and if your tuned real good i should see no reason for not passing a smog test, but hell i live in florida i have no idea about smog tests... you might look in to the master sticky on the KAT portion of this site. Through that i know exactly the set up i plan to run. just having a little financial issues at the moment. Good luck if you do the rb26 swap. 6 is always better then 4.

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:00 pm

R.I.P._Racing wrote:I just don't see how a Honda B16 can make 280 HP NA and a a KA24 has trouble getting out of it's own way ( LOL )

Because it has literally 100 times the market. The B16 also can rev to oblivion so all it takes is a little torque production up in the high RPM range to make big HP numbers.

Post by **ssmangrove** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:17 pm

R.I.P._Racing wrote:. I have no cap on budget at all I can drop in a RB26 tomorrow if I wanted

Then do it. :-P

I live close to napa, and not to flame, but everyone there loves to stress that they are "from napa" and that "money is of no concern." I'd like to know why budget is of no concern to you? No matter how much money I take in, even if i was on a baseball players salary, I always budget.

Sorry, cranky. You have a 96? Go greddy turbo and upgrade that sh** Then you have your happy little smog sticker, and the popo wont stick it to you. Then waltz down to smog place with a nice fresh cat in place and stock exhaust, and cross your fingers.

Post by **pregmantis** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:17 pm

mangrove, i know this is off the subject but is the greddy turbo system carb legal? or actually, is there any smog legal turbo systems?

Post by **Sil40_Mayhem** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:28 am

pregmantis wrote:mangrove, i know this is off the subject but is the greddy turbo system carb legal? or actually, is there any smog legal turbo systems?

After a quick trip around the world on Google, it seems that the only CARB legal kit is the one from GReddy (which doesn't seem to come standard with an intercooler). It appears that once you add an intercooler, the kit is no longer legal.

Damn, I am beyond grateful that I don't live in Cali...

Post by **180fastback** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:34 am

i help my freind build his KA, we went to the junk yard and got a turbo off a 300zx and he bought a turbo manifold on ebay for like 200 so is your gonna do your turbo upgrade and if you dont have much money think of 2 things.... junkyard and ebay.. youll be suprise of what youll find for the price your willing to pay for..

Post by **ben240** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:11 am

my new roommate has a buit 97 240 with the ka24de and it runs 350 whp.. it worth it to build them just do it right.

Post by **naed240sx** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:46 am

ben240 wrote:my new roommate has a buit 97 240 with the ka24de and it runs 350 whp.. it worth it to build them just do it right.

Im calling BS on this. 350whp is over twice what a stock ka puts out at the flywheel. His is either turbo or he's lying.

Post by **S13Coupe** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:12 am

I come on this site like once or twice a month and everytime there is a thread asking this. Realisticly, and streetable, the most you are going to get out of an NA KA is about 200whp. I've spent way too much time reading for myself over the last 2 years to believe otherwise. There are always people that say they have heard of ones running alot more power, but no one ever has anything at all to prove it. And I find it hard to belive that anyone got there without alot of dyno time for tuning. Therefor there are dyno sheets, and people love to show off what they've got. I know I would want to show off mine if I had a streatable NA KA with over 200 to the wheels. If you want 200 or more, turbo it or swap the motor.

Post by **InsanityInc** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:27 am

well, rebello has some KAs that make that much. Of course they're scarcely even KAs anymore.

Post by **AZhitman** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:32 am

ben240 wrote:my new roommate has a buit 97 240 with the ka24de and it runs 350 whp.. it worth it to build them just do it right.

Nope.

If he was, we'd know him. By name. I'd have made him a moderator.

You gotta remember, you're on 240sx.org.

The biggest 240sx resource on the web.

We've been here since the early 90's.

Punch "240sx" into Google and see what's up.

Hard to fool the members here - These guys know 240's.

Post by **spider_slayer** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:13 pm

if thats your car in the pic......i'd invest in new wheels first.

just my .02

Post by **R.I.P._Racing** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:08 pm

well I see pretty much what I thought. That it is not worht the money or time to build a KA. Sucks to live in CALI some times with the car stuff but everything else rocks. well in reply to you guys I have no budget because I have a bad *** job that lets me build custom choppers and hot rods and I am lucky my lil bro has his own company so I get everything for cost!! But thanks to all you guys for ur input I think I will just have to go with the RB26 a guy here in town Ryan terkavich did one and it kicks ***.

O and by the way the rims do suck and I hate gold but I was able to pick the car up for 4,000 and it is perfect and runs great!! so I had to get it

AND if you notice my girl and her friend in front of the car the blonde is mine and she likes the rims??? ( what the hell she is hot so what she has no idea that they suck ) LOL

again thanks to all !!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by **ben240** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:40 am

i now room with a guy named ryan and he has the car at his house and it is turbo. he said 350 whp. its not my car so dont shoot the messanger i was just trying to help. sooooooooo sorry.

Post by **AZhitman** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:23 pm

Not a problem Ben - Invite him over, he'll fit right in with a boosted 240... He'll thank you someday!

R.I.P - If you're comparing a built N/A KA to an RB26, there's something screwy.

For what you'll spend getting an RB26 into that S14, I could be laying down DOUBLE the RB's whp in a KA. Easily.

And if budget isn't an issue, why worry about which one is "worth the money or time "?

I think budget IS an issue, regardless of what a cool job you have, or you wouldn't be excited about getting a nice S14 for $4K.

Please don't think I'm being an a$$, but as I said above, there's lots of experts here, we've heard ALL the stories, and it's a lot easier to learn when you don't worry about what folks think of ya.

BTW, the car is hot, the wheels ain't that bad... I love gold S14's and if those damn women would move we could see the rest of it.

Welcome aboard.

Post by **crzycav86** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:17 pm

We have some real pioneers here for the NA KA.

Sadly, they still don't make much power compared to the most basic of kat's. If you want power, and aren't a pioneer, you might as well go turbo.

Post by **artemous** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:05 pm

What is the most powerful KA non turbo out there. Can anybody provide dyno results. I've heard of 600hp DET's. Very rare and very expensive. Only the Best of the best. I seriously doubt even these legendary builders can exceede 225 bhp without and adder.

Post by **nvrplzd240** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:37 pm

anybody want to question the capabilities of the KA, just go to http://ka-t.org

the KA is a very stout and capable engine.

take a look around http://import-autoperformance.comThey are a nico sponsor, and offer very turbo good kits for the KA

Heres one of their articles on KA vs. SR. It provides good information.http://import-autoperformance.....html

hope this helps, and nice lookin S14...any more pics?

Post by **deviousKA** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:13 pm

The most powerful ka24's were built about 8-10 years ago, no one has built more powerful or faster ka24's since. These power levels are still mediocre, there are 1400hp 22re 8 valves they use to compete against. All run methanol and most have cemented blocks, make good use of their wheelie bars you could say.

And they were sohc btw.

The most powerful NA ka24's are just simply, expensive. Cost is of little issue when the race trailer itself cost more than a house.

300-320hp.

Post by **loyal240** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:18 pm

All I have to say is go to KA-t.org.

Post by **aaroneezee** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:24 pm

if u have unlimited budget, a n/a rb26 would be different and looks like can make decent power.

Post by **T1ger8oi** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:27 pm

AZhitman wrote:
For what you'll spend getting an RB26 into that S14, I could be laying down DOUBLE the RB's whp in a KA. Easily.

AZhitman... wat do u mean by that? i dont get it. are u sayin u could get the KA to have DOUBLE the whp of a RB for the price of a RB swap? im lost.... if ur saying wat i think ur saying.. then u could tune up a KA to beat a RB? wit the same amount of money. will the KA still be legal?

Post by **Toshima** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:42 pm

Like every one else says if money is no problem and you can get parts for cost. Then get a RB30. I have never seen one in a 240 so if anyone has pic plz post them or email them to me. Better yet go all motor rb30 or VQ35 or VH41DE. Sorry got a little caried away.

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