More than 2" lift....? Fabricators?

[SixGuns]

So I've known about them for a long time, and I emailed Jesse over at High Angle Drivelines and he said, no, can't do anything for you, they build sandrail axles that have a flange at both ends, not the flange and slip-in like cars have...ok, that's all good and fine, but does anyone think it would be possible to modify the front hubs to accept the flange (thinking removing the hub and welding the pieces together), therefore being able to run the shafts...'cause pretty much the limiting factor on lifting the IFS is the CV angle, right? 25 degrees, if I'm not mistaken, is the limit for most CV's...but Jesse claims his can run at 36 degrees with no problems...so long as you retain the ability to disengage the hubs, (because let's face it...if they're built for a sandcar, these axles are not meant to be run at all times, every day and probably require greasing and regular care and maintenance)...shouldn't have any problems...I know, this is probably more work than it's worth, but anyone think it would be possible?

[SixGuns]

Also, I'm trying to get into contact with some other companies and have found a few that look promising...but I have one request...If you don't mind terribly, could someone with a 2" AC lift jack up one side of the R50 until the front tire is off the ground and give me a degree measurement (approximate is fine) of the running angle of the CV at full drop? I'm hoping if I can secure this one company (they claim their CV's run at 50 degrees in off road applications), I'll be able to get some custom coils made, get some Fox long travel shocks and perhaps land 3-4" of lift, without running over 50 degrees of angle.....this might work out to be absolutely sweet...I'll let you guys know what I hear back from the companies I've inquired to....

[fueler]

you could always do the 2" lift and then add a pair 9/16" "trim packers" (spacers) which can be bought on http://www.rockyroad.com .... that would net you 3+"

I used to have several sets of 1" lift spacers for the front of an R50 but i sold em all and they r not readily made. They required a deposit and several months of waiting. nissandoms47 might have a solution for you. PS heres an old but informative thread on the subject.

http://npora.ipbhost.com//index.php?showtopic=7192

[SixGuns]

Yeah, I have been in communication with him regarding the subframe drop...only problem being, it really doesn't allow for much more travel than stock, just larger tires...I still will probably do it, but I want to address the issue of the CV angles...spacers are all good and fine, but I want sheer flexibility (thinking Jeep coils, Fox shocks) in conjunction with the ability to run larger tires....

[fueler]

I am going to copy/paste some first-hand opinions on spring lifts for R50 larger than 2": "AC is a good company, but with their 2" springs, I got 3" over my old suspension and felt like it was more than the truck can handle in a suspension lift. It toes in significantly with a set of camber adjustment bolts. I still haven't installed the 2nd set, but I don't think that will fix the problem either. It is also pretty harsh. If I did it again, I'd chose OME 1.75" lift. The rear suspension is fairly straightforward, but don't plan on being able to remove the panhard rod unless you have a puller, and you have to be careful of the brake lines.

A 3" spring lift would be asking too much of the R50's suspension. Your truck will look bowlegged in the front even with the camber adjustment bolts. If you want to go higher, you need to look at doing a subframe lift."

[SixGuns]

Thanks for the replies, fueler....(why the hell are you awake at almost 1am?)...as far as the camber, I was actually planning to fab up some custom upper and lower A arms....mainly because of the length that would be involved in the new CV axle, on compression of the suspension, and the tire moving upwards, with stock A arms, you're going to crush the axle, bind something, or just break it...so, keeping everything even is the key there, I'd say....And for the harshness....well, yeah...it's not really much taller of a spring, just a different spring rate, so it doesn't sag as much under load, therefore sitting the vehicle higher...trick there is longer springs, same spring rate as stock, maybe a little tighter....almost factory ride, just taller....at least, that's what I'm hoping for....don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I know exactly what to expect, and I appreciate your giving me the heads up....I just think it would work wonderfully, with enough planning and a little bit of fabrication....

[fueler]

why the hell are YOU awake at 1am? im up cause i been smoking crack with some street hookers. just kidding. im actually studying and working for finals and nico is distracting me.

Anyways, let me know if you decide to start a project. I once inquired on making long travel front IFS for the R50, with Total Chaos, and they expressed a total disinterest towards Nissans. They told me that in fact they were going to stop production on the other Nissan lift kits that they have already been producing, like the hardbody and the frontier. Lack of interest.

[SixGuns]

I was up at 1 am 'cause my wife was being restless and kicking me in her sleep...so I just decided to sit on the computer and rot my mind...So, yeah...still waiting on those companies to contact me back...hopefully they do, if not, I'll call them tomorrow and talk to a real person..seem to get more done that way. I thought about it long and hard last night and I see no realistic reason (aside from funding) to be able to extend everything out, custom fab some stuff and wind up having the same track as stock, with about 4 inches of lift...I really think it will work...only downside to it is (A) worse gas mileage than I already have, which sucks...(B) additional sway in corners, (C), upon compression, the front tires will swing up and out, because of the long-travel design...so, get into a tight spot and you could potentially wind up screwing yourself and wedging the car into someplace....but that's half the fun anyway...I'm gonna do it, damn it. Gonna be sweet...watch for the Post of Awesomeness.

[screwinitupagain]

Go a head & go with the 2" coils & if you want you can always go with a subframe drop lift which can get you an extra 3.5-4.5" on top of the 2" coils. This intales upgrading the steering components as well as a number of other things but there are a couple of people around here that can fab a lift up for you.

One is Alex Veater (Nissandoms47) out in UT the other is Tyler Morgan (tmorgan) out of CO. Tyler is the one that did the SAS R50 but before had 6" of lift with the IFS & ran 35's & Alex currently is running like 6" of lift with 33's.

It's usually easier to get in contact with them on 4x4parts.com discusion board. Look them up & send them a PM.

Hope that helps

[fueler]

Alex Veater's R50 Pathfinder lifted on subframe drop, mounted with 33's (this was less than a week after purchasing the rig. what a cheat!!!) sixguns, this is your rig on steroids.

[nissandoms47]

Long travel is next on the list. And using factory nissan cv axles too which cuts down tremendously on price. Just trying to make it worth it is the hardest part. PM me on npora or 4x4 i dont mind sharing my ideas on a more private level. I'll probably never do it though. maybe. idk.

[fueler]

long travel with factory pathfinder axles??? you must be crazy.

ill AIM u bro

[screwinitupagain]

Adam waht are you talking about? You know you aint ever gonna lift the QX4...

[nissandoms47]

lol i said factory nissan axles, not factory nissan pathfinder axles....

[Kckouki]

Alex Veater's R50 Pathfinder lifted on subframe drop, mounted with 33's (this was less than a week after purchasing the rig. what a cheat!!!) sixguns, this is your rig on steroids.

So much of a lift is this ? That's perfect.

And the rack and **** up top, whered he get that ?

[SixGuns]

Actually, Adam, that's exactly the size I'm looking for..4" of lift, 33's..just gotta figure out the how...I'll eventually come up with something, 'cause I need the functionality of the travel an actual suspension lift allows for...if I'm gonna do it, I gotta be able to use it, or I can't justify spending the time and money.....