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Dumb kids cant pass a test so make the test easier to help the kids feel smarter. Do we really need anyone else feeling smarter. Internet has enough of that crap.


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RobPaulson wrote: i really... really REALLY hate people who blame teachers for this.

you know as a teacher, you are pressured and forced to follow specific curriculum to teach the kids how to pass this test, right? The teachers themselves have about 15% freedom within their lesson plans to be creative and actually teach the way they should be teaching.
My girlfriend is going to school right now to get her master's in education. For one of her classes she has to go to a middle school to assist a teacher and learn from her. My gf has a degree in biology and so she is helping the biology teacher.

Well, the other day, she was assisting this teacher who was giving her students a quiz. My gf was grading papers while the teacher was making the answer key for the quiz. The teacher called my gf over to ask her what the answer was to a question that was on the quiz because she didn't know. This teacher did not know the answers to a quiz that she just administered to her students. You can't completely blame teachers for quality of education, but I mean, c'mon. This stuff is happening.

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Morph wrote:Dumb kids cant pass a test so make the test easier to help the kids feel smarter. Do we really need anyone else feeling smarter. Internet has enough of that crap.
Seems the next generations of kids are going to be worse emotional p****** than ever. All about feelings instead of logic.

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I have a big F'ing problem with the school systems here in florida. All this focus on the FCAT, is emphasized all the way through 11th grade, then that same year and senior year is supposed to take the SAT's ACT's etc. Those exams are exponentially harder than any basic CAT exam. I can understand budget costs, it costs me a scholarship. But I don't understand how they can focus on something so retarded.

I read an article in the newspaper the other day about how students in Florida are doing so bad that once they enter college, its like being in high school again, b/c they have to take remedial classes. I don't go to a huge university. FAU, has only appx 27k students, and in ALL of my classes I have seen people not understand concepts taught in 9th grade

Sorry for the rant haha the education system just always sets me off

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audtatious wrote:
Seems the next generations of kids are going to be worse emotional p****** than ever. All about feelings instead of logic.
The more i watch the new the more angry i get. Its all about feeling and they cant let the kids fail b/c they will feel bad. WTF Your right man America is becoming a giant Vag. If people dont ever feel the pain of failing they cant ever really enjoy the thrill of winning.

Screw the little basards let they stay in 11th grade till they collect social security, and actuallty pass the class on their own.

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The president of the Detroit school board Otis Mathis is responsible for the education of Detroits 90,000 students. A sample from an e-mail he sent to friends and supporters on Sunday night, uncorrected for errors of spelling, grammar, punctuation and usage. It begins:

"If you saw Sunday's Free Press that shown Robert Bobb the emergency financial manager for Detroit Public Schools, move Mark Twain to Boynton which have three times the number seats then students and was one of the reason's he gave for closing school to many empty seats."

Here's another mass e-mail from Mathis, from Aug. 11, 2009:"Do DPS control the Foundation or outside group? If an outside group control the foundation, then what is DPS Board row with selection of is director? Our we mixing DPS and None DPS row's, and who is the watch dog?"

When I asked him about the grammatical deficiencies in his e-mails, he didn't waffle or grandstand, instead honestly answering questions about his difficulties in school. High school saw him bouncing back and forth between schools. "I was kicked out and kicked in and kicked out," he says with a chuckle. He credits a high school English teacher with encouraging him to graduate, getting him to attend school "once a week instead of every two weeks" by giving him an audio version of Alex Haley's "Roots," one vinyl record at a time.

He graduated from Southwestern High School in 1973 with what he says was a 1.8 grade-point average but was previously reported as a .98 average. After serving in the Navy, Wayne State placed him in a special program to help academically unqualified students move forward, on the G.I. Bill.

He stayed at Wayne State University for 15 years, as a student and a counselor, becoming a virtual "prisoner of Wayne," as he jokes, unable to graduate. Mathis and another student unsuccessfully challenged the use of an English proficiency test as a requirement for graduation. In 1992, when the case went to trial, the lawsuit gained national attention. Mathis said then his failure to pass the test "made me feel stupid." The requirement was eventually dropped in 2007, and Mathis applied to get his degree the next year, after his election.

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From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article...Fkf3l

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The world can always use more ditch diggers and people to walk the streets and pick up garbage.

Hell, send some of the HS dropouts that are on welfare over to my house each week as my yard needs tending.

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Jesda wrote:The president of the Detroit school board Otis Mathis is responsible for the education of Detroits 90,000 students. A sample from an e-mail he sent to friends and supporters on Sunday night, uncorrected for errors of spelling, grammar, punctuation and usage. It begins:
Maybe he was a part of the Los Angeles Ebonics League during his early years in the educational system? May explain why his English and grammar are not up to par

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haha this makes me want to look up the crap that the superintendent of palm beach county, florida, was accused of. That piece of s*** uses district money for his own financial needs, as well as others working under him. as being the head, his word seems to be final. a group of PTA members, and students challenged him to change a school law ( i forget the details) even those on the board agreed it should be changed, he says no and it ends there. People like him need to be kicked out of office

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I don't understand why it'd become such a big deal for everyone to graduate. It's effectively cheapening the value of a high school diploma.

The same is happening at colleges. If everyone goes to college, how is it a sign of higher education?

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Jesda wrote:IT HAS THE ELECTROLYTES PLANTS LOVE!
you talk like a fag and your s*** is retarded.


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