more angle.

[Future_gohan]

I've been searching, so let me speak. ha

Looking for someone who has modified they're knuckles themselfs, and didn't use the pbm kit, or any other companys knuckles.

I have a spair set of knuckles for my s13, and I want to get more angle for next year.

I already ordered my pbm tie rod spacers(btw does this really make a noticeable difference?) and I want to get just a tad bit more angle. Figure do it now then later.

Let me know if anyone has done this, thank you, and any pictures, how toos, lmk. thanksss.

[breadbox]

well the only ones I have seen were cut and welded to gain more angle.

I know local guys who do it, just find someone near you to do it. People charge around $300 to do it, tho.

I will probably get it done to my hatch later when its running.

[Future_gohan]

well my dads a welder by trade, so he'd do it. do people shorten it, lengthen it? I'm not too sure that's why i'm asking.

[ashibah83]

they shorten the tie rod mount, less length means more angle, and ive heard of guys who also flip the tapered mount to allow for some bump steer correction because the tierod is then on bottom so you have less of an upward angle on slammed cars

[Tyler]

i dunno, i just had pbm do mine. you can always buy their "You weld" kit. its only 250 bucks..

[Future_gohan]

they shorten the tie rod mount, less length means more angle, and ive heard of guys who also flip the tapered mount to allow for some bump steer correction because the tierod is then on bottom so you have less of an upward angle on slammed cars

Yeah once my engine is running again i plan on slamming my car, and I was figuring out all the little kinks of having a slammed car. I don't want to go threw racks and such all the time.

How much shorter does it have to be do you know? Maybe an inch or so?

[Future_gohan]

@TGJ

Yeah, I know its cheap, but I really can't go out and spend tons of money i'm on a very short dead line, and if i don't meet it, i'm pretty much out of a car for next season. and sooo i can't spend annyy extra money.

[ZX88]

ma motorsport awesome tron 5000 knuckles

[Future_gohan]

Can't afford it atm.

[wishin_on_an_sr]

there is a kid at my school that cut and welded them himself. To me it looked sketchy, but then again i dont know how much force is put on that particular area of the knuckle. As far as i know they havent failed yet. I sort of want to try it with a spare set that i have.edit: i dont remember how much he cut out

[Future_gohan]

there is a kid at my school that cut and welded them himself. To me it looked sketchy, but then again i dont know how much force is on that particular area of the knuckle. As far as i know they havent failed yet. I sort of want to try it with a spare set that i have.

Well I can' trust the welds, my diff has held about 5k miles from my dad on a 16psi ka-t.

I need to know how short i need to make it, I have an extra set i'm trying to do it too.

[Future_gohan]

Also, this is a track only car, but I'm wondering how the straight driving is with your wheels pigeon toed. lol

[ashibah83]

pigeon toed???? it shouldnt be pigeon toed, your removing length, towards the back of the car....not( i guess you would call it) track width of the tie rods, they should still be VERY close to the original distance from each other just closer to the centerpoint of the hub. toe in is BAD for drifting, not only will it cause EXCESSIVE tire wear, but i could also create bad understeer problems because the tires will be fighting each other for linear traction( one will grip, one will plow.....which one does which, well thats the problem)

[Future_gohan]

pigeon toed???? it shouldnt be pigeon toed, your removing length, towards the back of the car....not( i guess you would call it) track width of the tie rods, they should still be VERY close to the original distance from each other just closer to the centerpoint of the hub. toe in is BAD for drifting, not only will it cause EXCESSIVE tire wear, but i could also create bad understeer problems because the tires will be fighting each other for linear traction( one will grip, one will plow.....which one does which, well thats the problem)

That's what i ment, but I meat like the opposite of pigeon toed. I've seen some modified knuckles with them being so cut they wheels actually sit like that. Just wondering how it would be to drive straight.

[fourLUG_hero]

You've been making alot of topics lately.

[wishin_on_an_sr]

Well I can' trust the welds, my diff has held about 5k miles from my dad on a 16psi ka-t.

I need to know how short i need to make it, I have an extra set i'm trying i to do it too.

i know that he cut it on an angle, it looked to be about 45 degrees., i just called the guy, and he's all secretive about how much he cut them, i too would really like to know. he said i could have them for 200 but i just hung up the phone. lol. does anyone have any info? I could do math since im at school for mechanical engineering. but i am lazy so if i do it at all it would have to be over break which is in two weeks. and i have finals. anyone know anything about advanced physics? or three dimensional phase diagrams?

[Future_gohan]

i know that he cut it on an angle, it looked to be about 45 degrees., i just called the guy, and he's all secretive about how much he cut them, i too would really like to know. he said i could have them for 200 but i just hung up the phone. lol. does anyone have any info? I could do math since im at school for mechanical engineering. but i am lazy so if i do it at all it would have to be over break which is in two weeks. and i have finals. anyone know anything about advanced physics? or three dimensional phase diagrams?

Yeah ive gotten a hold of a guy who makes them as well, he wouldn't tell me any information on what he does, or even the lengths he cuts out. I know for a fact you don't cut them straight across but at an angle, and that s14 lca's are a + because they're longer. And To use tie rod end spacers for the angle needed to do this mod.

[wishin_on_an_sr]

well heres a pic i got from club rx7, it is an s13 knuckle that was originally posted on zilvia, im guessing quarter inch? i hope someone who has done this can varify? heres the club rx7 link...http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=766836

[Future_gohan]

i did a lot of researching this the last few days, I've read it can an inch or even more, just depends on how much angle your looking for. I'm going to do it but i'll take an inch or so off, and if it is too much i got spairs and if its not enough i can cut more off. i'll just have to do this myself and figure it out. I'll let you guys know in a few weeks or so when i get the rest of my suspension parts in, I wanna wait for all my arms in, and i wanna get new s14 inner and outer tie rods So i can do it right.

[billabong093]

Future gohan, not trying to threadjack, but you have email (about your wheels for sale in the classifieds). figured i'd let you know while i saw that you were online.

[Coeur de lion]

Future Gohan.. email me at pigbombs (at) gmail.com and I will get you pointed in the right direction.

[wishin_on_an_sr]

Future Gohan.. email me at pigbombs (at) gmail.com and [email protected] and I will get you pointed in the right direction.

coeur de lion please help me out as well. [email protected]. how much do you cut the knuckles?
Modified by wishin_on_an_sr at 4:14 AM 12/4/2009

[Coeur de lion]

coeur de lion please help me out as well. [email protected]. the new hampshire people arent nearly as helpful. im from swanzey nh., please help us. how much do you cut the knuckles?

Just email me man, I will show you the way.. lol

But seriously. Email me at the address above when you get the chance.. I talked to Future Gohan briefly already.