modifying factory sump

[holeset]

here is the beginning of modifying standard sump to hopefully stop blowing motors up from surge,in a perfect world dry sumping would be the best option but we dont have money trees at the moment so dry sumping is way out of our budget and we like trying to do stuff the hard way.the diamond trap door will be next to go in the middle,i may have been a bit keen on overall size,looks like it will hold a huge amount of oil! woops.[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]

[ISL33P]

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[Mettler]

Damn you lucky VH45 bastards for having a steel sump that you can just weld! I'm getting my flanges all lasercut from steel :p

What thickness plate you using for the bowl, 2mm?

[elwesso]

instead of modifying the sump, wouldnt it be easier to just use an oil accumulator to help with the momentary losses of oil pressure...?

[holeset]

yep 2mm,its not pretty,you can just see it in one of the phots,ill start the diamond next week,as for oil acumulators,ive never had alot to do with them,never really thought about going down that track,might have to google some set ups,thanks.

[Chrispy300]

I've got a Accusump in mine, should be getting it started up again today

[CrazyTrance]

Wow... this is EXACTLY what i'm doing to mine and have been haha. Were working on the new pickup tube design right now.

[Mettler]

Holeset, who cares about it looking pretty eh, as long as it does sweet skids without blowing up

instead of modifying the sump, wouldnt it be easier to just use an oil accumulator to help with the momentary losses of oil pressure...?

Mmmm, not really wes. I'm building a complete custom sump and it's going to cost me less than half of what it would to buy an accusump + all the gear to set it up. It's not really any more difficult to go custom when you have the skills and tools to do it

Oh... and kinda need a custom sump :p

[elwesso]

if you already have to modify the sump thats one thing, but for someone like me who has the engine in the car it was made to be in, wouldnt this be overall an easier solution?

[Mettler]

I'm not sure what type of response you are after, lol... the majority of people on here are working with transplants. Yes, accusumps look awesome and are a damn good idea, if I was a wealthy man I'd definitely use one.

[darinz]

I've been thinking about an acusump due to the extreme angles I get the truck on but it is there for when things get beyond the sumps design. I guess it is like a poor man dry sump.

[holeset]

we found that the more basic the set up the less prone to failure,especially when we hammer the crap out of our cars,once the helmet goes on any mechanical sympathy goes out the window,hey mettler i know this has been discussed but i was going to see if i can get one of the less damaged cranks ground 10'' under,you know where to source the bearings in new zealand,we have a real good buddy at a nissan dealership but he is crap for parts info but can hook up some real good deals.

[Chrispy300]

I'm not sure what type of response you are after, lol... the majority of people on here are working with transplants. Yes, accusumps look awesome and are a damn good idea, if I was a wealthy man I'd definitely use one.

Here's mine



Seems to work fine, just have to make sure you add in another 2L of oil to account for it sucking it up. Mine is holding a solid 70PSI or so of oil pressure. I got the one with the fancy electronic control valve that dumps it into the system if pressure drops below 30PSI. It builds up straight after.

Wasn't really that expensive. I got mine from Summit Racing for a coupla hundred bucks. I spent more on AN fittings than I did on the Accusump. No way I would go without it with a un-baffeled sump like mine.

[Geoffs89Pathy]

ok bringin it back, i am putting a VH45 in my 89 pathy and just bought the resevoir from a friend, i need to know what else i need and how to do it, if anyone can point me to a write up, that would be awesome as well. i <3 pics also.. they help me. lol

what if you do both, modify the sump, AND have accusump? or would that be over kill...
i am going to be rock crawling this truck, so some pretty high angles, as well as DD and half the reason for doing the swap is to make the truck reliable... so . any done it?
list of things i need would be very helpful too. thanks.

[holeset]

i was looking at the factory oil pump and its almost identical to an aftermarket Pederson single stage oil pump we run on our escort, i dont see why you couldnt run this externally feeding the mains directly with a good pickup from a baffled sump.you could crank the oil pressure up by putting more pressure on the oil pressure spring and get rid of the pressure relief valve maybe?

[Geoffs89Pathy]

is that little box portion that is on the side of the stock sump have oil in it or is it just slaped on the side of it? it is for a support for something or whatever. basically can i just cut it off?

[holeset]

i just cut it right off,not sure whats its for,maybe to help surge a little bit.

[Geoffs89Pathy]

so yes it has oil in it or not?

[holeset]

yes it does

[Geoffs89Pathy]

my sump is cracked along the weld at the bottom so i am prolly gonna end up fabricating something new and bigger with baffles. not onle that, i have a 3 quart canton accusump to go along with it. should take care of its oil issues.