Mobile 1 oil filter - which one to choose?

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I am currently using OEM filter and want to switch to Mobile 1. When I looked up, the reference guide says to use M1-110, but when look up the history, it shows that M1-110 is reduced sized M1-104 and they are interchangeable as long as the space allows (a larger filter). Has anyone tried with M1-104 yet?

My thought is: If the M1-104 is larger with more filtering capabilities (this is a fact), it will be a better choice. But, will there be any downside? Or is anyone using it or tried it?


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I would just keep using the factory 15208-9E000 filter. It works great. Maybe do a cross reference if you want to use a Mobil 1 filter. The slightly smaller 15208-65F0C filter can be interchanged with the 9E000 filter. I've done it vice versa many times.

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Nissan filters have been labelled as inferior to the mobil 1 and purolator filters by the Z and G croud. It has been said the nissan filter is manufactured in china and is on par with the cheapest fram filters.

Can't go wrong with any mobil 1 filter but yes, bigger is better just adjust your fill since the system will have a larger capacity.

Also it has been said the Purolator Gold filter is darn good.

But is you are really that anal about oils and filters then get a dual bypass setup from Amsoil and run their 25K mi oil and be done with it

You will be just fine with any filter on the market really - just don't get anything loaded with PTFE or any other oil suppliment. Our FSM and Manufacturer do not recomend Synthetic oils either - why is only speculation - but my theory is that with synthetics these nissan engines will run for so long the service interval would be so large you'd be waiting 15 years before you need another car - so call it Nissan's way of getting you back for another car - lol

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I've always been fascinated at how small nissan filters are. That there's a larger option seems a no-brainer. I believe the filter that fits the first gen (03 & 04) M is the same as I was using on my old I30 and it was small to me.

Agree that the OEM brand is no gem and Fram is the pond scum of the filter world (though i used them for years up till Al Gore invented the Internet and I saw one cut open).

Agree that the Purolator Gold & pureOne filters are a better part. I'm not wowed by the Mobil 1 offering but imagine they're ok. I've used them before w/o issue.

I have a change coming up soon!

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Ok, so I guess I will just use the M1-104 if it fit - I have a few (that I use for my other car) and I can try it on the next oil change, If it fits, I will use it, otherwise I will use M1-110 or Purolator Premium/Gold (I have 2 of them as well - it is the same model that I use for our 3rd car - wife's car). So, I get that covered.

As far as those 25k miles oils, I really don't have any confidence - it will break down, which is based on time. So, I will stick with my 5k mile change interval.

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ken in az wrote:It has been said the nissan filter is manufactured in china and is on par with the cheapest fram filters.
It IS manufactured in china, but so is 92.7% of what you own. Including most of your Chevy's parts. It isn't a low quality filter. Never in 6 years as a tech have I seen a Nissan filter fail. But that is why there is such a big aftermarket. If people are convinced by someone that a certain product is superior, they will use it. I will always use Nissan filters because they are free for me.
Double E wrote:I've always been fascinated at how small nissan filters are. That there's a larger option seems a no-brainer. I believe the filter that fits the first gen (03 & 04) M is the same as I was using on my old I30 and it was small to me.
Size means nothing. Its all about filter operation and design.

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M45Runner wrote:As far as those 25k miles oils, I really don't have any confidence - it will break down, which is based on time. So, I will stick with my 5k mile change interval.
That's why you have to include an oil analysis with any extended drain interval.

I would bother with it if I had $$ to burn - but proper drain intervals on current synthetics available off the shelf are just fine and in some cases overkill - but you pay for peice of mind and convinience - all about the cost/benefit ratio

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The best one is found here...

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eao.aspx


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uhhh ok - sorry to hit your button there but seriously they are, in the grand sceme of oil filters, mid grade at best.

I don't care of anyone's opinion and I don't care about failure ratio since I too have never seen any oil filter fail except for Fram but if you compare the internals to a higher grade filter you will see that the internal components are not of high grade as they could be.

Does this mean that a cardboard antidrainback valve is inferior to a silocone version? Does this mean that your engine will die if you use it? No not at all. I have actually seen toilet paper rolls used as filter media.

point is...use what makes you feel comfortable

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ken in az wrote:N Our FSM and Manufacturer do not recomend Synthetic oils either - why is only speculation - but my theory is that with synthetics these nissan engines will run for so long the service interval would be so large you'd be waiting 15 years before you need another car - so call it Nissan's way of getting you back for another car - lol
Actually, Infiniti uses Chevron brand, 5-30W, 55% synthetic oil. At least thats what Riverside Infiniti uses in all of their cars when they do an oil change. It is what they recommend too. So the oil is at least part synthetic.
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ken in az wrote:
That's why you have to include an oil analysis with any extended drain interval.

I would bother with it if I had $$ to burn - but proper drain intervals on current synthetics available off the shelf are just fine and in some cases overkill - but you pay for peice of mind and convinience - all about the cost/benefit ratio
One of the other reason that it is better off using regular oil (syn. or not) and change it every 5-7k is: The engine will use some oil - it will use more if you push it harder.

I do not drive the car hard at all (rarely over 5k rpm) and at 4k mile, the oil is in between the high and low mark (I checked it was at the high mark 2 weeks after the oil change). So, if you go 20k miles, you will need to add 2.5 qts (maybe 4 if you push it hard). I would rather just change them and not worry about add oil from time to time.

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Purolator has a great web site (www.http://www.pureoil.com/) that will allow you to cross reference oil and air filters. The M1-104 is not the one for the VQ35 engine. BTW, my other car is an 04 Murano and our Infiniti is the 08 M35x. Both of my cars take the M1-108 which is cross referenced to the Purolator PL 14610. This filter is a bit longer than the Purolator PL 14612. Since I change synthetic oil every 6 months, I've been using the Purolator Extra Premium 14610 for the last 70+ k miles on the Murano and have been satisfied. Bottom line, if you get a good price on M1 filters, go with the M1-108, otherwise, it's hard to beat the value of a Purolator PureOne PL14610.

But then to....this is just my opinion.


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