Mobil - Penzoil - valvoline

[gwoods]

SO, always trying to save a buck. I am changing the oil on the G myself. Always had Mobil 1 for oil even at the dealership.

I am seeing pretty decent deals on Valvoline and Penzoil full synthetic oils.

Do any of you think there is any negative to changing brands every oil change depending what is on sale? I only run my oil for 3700 miles which lately is about 8 weeks !!!

The only negative I can see is each oil has different detergents and PH's. I could see a potential for new wear-in on the rings and bearings when changing back and forth between different brands of synthetic 5/30?

[tollboothwilley]

I dont think it will make much difference. I think the biggest diff will be just making sure you change frequently.

Interested to hear if you do try. I'd like to see the diff that you feel with these oils.

[gwoods]

I'm going to change the oil on Sunday and am 99% sure I'll be going to KN oil filter and Pennzoil full syn. Its $29 at Autozone

Valvoline full syn is $24 but its an STP filter so no thanks.

[tollboothwilley]

5 qts of Mobile1 at Walmart are like $27

i'm just curious about these other full synthetics and any performance changes they would have, if any

[eZg001]

Let me throw something else into the equation. I have been letting the dealership change my oil with Mobil 1 every five thousand miles. I figured the nice round number would help me to remember. It has but I have has some oil consuption. I have put 25,000 miles on my 06 in the past year....all highway commuting.

I took my car to Crawford Z here in Nashville to have some aftermarket parts installed. While there, I asked them what oil they recommended and mentioned my consumption problem.

They recommend going back to dino from synthetic and changing every 3,000 miles. The guy said the particles of the synthetic oils are smaller and are being forced out where the dino oil particals are larger and will not be.

I was looking for a cheaper place to do my synthetic Mobil 1 change and now need to decide if I am going back to the old stuff. Crawford Z has a pretty good rep and I'm sure they know our engines better than I ever will. So why am I so hestitant?

I'm thinking Mobil 1 changed every 3,000 miles.

[kmckis1029]

went from penzoil to mobil1 on my last oil change... i have to say my g35x likes th mobil 1 better... as my car heats up quicker and the engine at idle is more quiet... it was a noticable difference... im trying Royal Purple next before keep a consistant brand in my engine...

[tollboothwilley]

I went from normal dino, to synthetic blend, to full synthetic, to Mobile 1, to RP. I honestly can't say that there has been little difference. I have only been running Royal Purple in my engine since I had the 2* timing advance though, so its tough to say it there was a much better difference due to RP.

[Jacko3]

The oil discussion will never end. Hahahahah! I love it. I use Royal Purple---best oil I have used so far, so long as you are prepared to routinely flog your car beyond 4,500 RPM. If you drive normally, it is a total waste of money.

I moved from the dealers Pennzoil blend, to Mobil 1 Full Synth to Mobil 1 EP Full Synth to Royal Purple. Each move got better. Both Mobil 1 EP Full Synth is fantastic in heat dissipation and warm up than regular Mobil 1 Full Synth---its like night and day.

Royal Purple is even 5 % - 10% better than Mobil 1 EP Full Synth as far as warm up is concerned. As for heat dissipation, Mobil 1 EP Full Synth seems to me to be about 5% better than Royal Purple. Of course, these results are under normal driving condition.

Mobil 1 EP Full Synth will provide a relatively fast warm up time as with Royal Purple, though Royal Purple warms up faster than Mobil 1 EP Full Synth.

Now, if you live on the edge and want to feel true performance, Royal Purple is the oil to have in your car. What it looses in heat dissipation when compared to Mobil 1 EP Full Synth under normal driving condition, it gains by giving the car more power than the Mobil 1 EP products, and thus a faster car has more air flowing under the hood which invariably helps the car cool better.

Again, Royal purple is uselsess in your car if you are not prepared to flog the heck out of the car. I will gladly stick with Mobil 1 EP Full Synth if all i do is highway driving or normal driving.

Royal Purple is so good, in terms of power, that at exactly or almost 5,000 RPM, you actually feel the car get a little jolt of instant power--it feels something like 1 PSI after 5,000RPM. And with test pipes, which I currently have on my car, the car you are smoking better be a V-8 or else it is toast.

And, I change my oil with Royal Purple at 3,000 miles or less. 3750 miles is for Infiniti/Nissan. 3,000 miles or less is for Jacko. Until God creates an oil, and performs an oil analysis, and sends the data from the labs of heaven to unworthy mankind on earth, my oil will never see beyond 3,000 miles. I have seen the value of frequent oil changes in my little nissan that has 251,000 miles on it.

Royal Purple = Hard Driving

Mobil 1 EP Full Synth = Normal and Daily Driver.

These are just my experience and 2 cents. The way you drive, and where you drive, should determine which oil to use. But its good to know how each oil behaves under different conditions in order to make informed choices. An engine with a far more frequent oil change, regardless of oil used, will be in far better shape than one that tries to stretch the oil to theoretical limits.

[S133P3R]

I dont know if anyone here has been to an auto parts store or even wal-mart lately, but mobil 1 production has ceased due to the plant being damaged during hurricane Ike. My local wal-mart has nothing but high mileage mobil 1, a lot of empty shelves, and a sign saying "U R SOL" basically. the parts store clerk was telling me that ppl have been calling in non-stop trying to get mobil 1 for their BMWs, Lexus, Infinitys, and the such (OC has a lot of ppl in expensive cars and a few in crappy ones, like me).

[SVTCOBRA]

EVOO FTW!!

[notalk]

Valvoline full syn is $24 but its an STP filter so no thanks.

STP filter is made by Champion. So, it's really pretty good.

For oil and filter advice/recommendations, go to http://www.bobistheoilguy.com.

[kmckis1029]

im just telling you my experience... i wasnt expecting to see a notiable difference when i went to mobile 1 oil (thats all the place had that was synthetic, besides RP oil, i didnt have the money for RP since i had just tintied my windows that same day)... I wasnt "looking" for results...

its hard for me to argue against a quicker warm up time... so the mobil 1 has to be doing something diffent from the penzoil full synthetic.... I cant Wait to try RP

[gwoods]

wow notalk, thanks for killing the last 1.5 hours of my day LOL

I love the fram xtra guard filters?? Looked like I'm alone though

I guess I'll probably do that STP/Valvoline deal then for $24

What if I put in 3 quarts of Valvoline and 2.5 quarts of Mobil 1? Does that make royal purple LOL

[gwoods]

Oh and Royal Purple may be great but I put miles on my G way to fast to make it worth it. I do about 2000 miles a month.

[tollboothwilley]

EVOO FTW!!

We aren't cooking SVTLOL

still stuck in food mode huh? must be making something good....

[SleeperG37]

The oil discussion will never end. Hahahahah! I love it. I use Royal Purple---best oil I have used so far, so long as you are prepared to routinely flog your car beyond 4,500 RPM. If you drive normally, it is a total waste of money.

I moved from the dealers Pennzoil blend, to Mobil 1 Full Synth to Mobil 1 EP Full Synth to Royal Purple. Each move got better. Both Mobil 1 EP Full Synth is fantastic in heat dissipation and warm up than regular Mobil 1 Full Synth---its like night and day.

Royal Purple is even 5 % - 10% better than Mobil 1 EP Full Synth as far as warm up is concerned. As for heat dissipation, Mobil 1 EP Full Synth seems to me to be about 5% better than Royal Purple. Of course, these results are under normal driving condition.

Mobil 1 EP Full Synth will provide a relatively fast warm up time as with Royal Purple, though Royal Purple warms up faster than Mobil 1 EP Full Synth.

Now, if you live on the edge and want to feel true performance, Royal Purple is the oil to have in your car. What it looses in heat dissipation when compared to Mobil 1 EP Full Synth under normal driving condition, it gains by giving the car more power than the Mobil 1 EP products, and thus a faster car has more air flowing under the hood which invariably helps the car cool better.

Again, Royal purple is uselsess in your car if you are not prepared to flog the heck out of the car. I will gladly stick with Mobil 1 EP Full Synth if all i do is highway driving or normal driving.

Royal Purple is so good, in terms of power, that at exactly or almost 5,000 RPM, you actually feel the car get a little jolt of instant power--it feels something like 1 PSI after 5,000RPM. And with test pipes, which I currently have on my car, the car you are smoking better be a V-8 or else it is toast.

And, I change my oil with Royal Purple at 3,000 miles or less. 3750 miles is for Infiniti/Nissan. 3,000 miles or less is for Jacko. Until God creates an oil, and performs an oil analysis, and sends the data from the labs of heaven to unworthy mankind on earth, my oil will never see beyond 3,000 miles. I have seen the value of frequent oil changes in my little nissan that has 251,000 miles on it.

Royal Purple = Hard Driving

Mobil 1 EP Full Synth = Normal and Daily Driver.

These are just my experience and 2 cents. The way you drive, and where you drive, should determine which oil to use. But its good to know how each oil behaves under different conditions in order to make informed choices. An engine with a far more frequent oil change, regardless of oil used, will be in far better shape than one that tries to stretch the oil to theoretical limits.

I agree with most of Jacko's comments, save for two.

Everyone has a preference that works for them, but I disagree that there are adverse effects to changing past 3K miles. With the tighter tolerances and better filtration of today's motors, along with better oil filter technology, the 3K stigma is only relevant to older cars and your local Jiffy Lube looking for more revenue. I'm not an advocate of running 15K like BMW states (cost cutting to their free maint program), but 5K is more than reasonable.

As far as best of the best oils go (obviously cost aside), IMO, Motul ester is the best, with RP and Kendal right behind. If you want documented data, analysis, and longevity backup, there are more than a few guys out there that can verify. I know of a few of my old Audi buddies that ran Motul for 15K (incl track days) on their turbo motors with no negative analytic results. Again, I wouldn't go that far, but it is possible without adversely affecting the motor.

At the end of the day, I don't think you can go wrong with Mobil, Valvoline, or Penzoline, especially if you plan to change frequently. Just make sure you stick with a weight that works best for your area of the country and driving habits. I would not mix, nor would I bounce around each change. The prices don't move all that much, but you should be able to pick one of the three that is a best compromise over time to be consistent. Good luck!

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Im in love with the purple stuff lol

DJ

[gwoods]

1 think I noticed right away, the fram TG filter is CRAP compared to the STP!

I think I'll be using STP filters from now on!

Does Mobil 1 make a filter for the G?

I have noticed my start up/warm up is quieter now, I don't know if its the STP filter or the Valvoline oil?

Jeff

[tollboothwilley]

Jeff

Have you been to the track at all lately? I would expect you to use a racing oil. LOL

Stay away from the FRAM filters. They do suck. I bet the quieter warmup is due to the oil, not the filter.

and yes, mobile1 does make a filter that fits. I don't remember the part # though

[Jacko3]

I use Mobil M-108. It fits. Works well with RP.

[gwoods]

I have not been to the track in a LONG time. I was planning a trip this month but somehow the month got away from me. Maybe I'll get to go in Jan.

I never really thought racing oil was worth the $, more frequent oil changes are a better investment IMO.

I have always used fram filters unless I can find a mobil 1 filter. Didn't know Mobil made a filter for the G so thanks for the part number!

[tollboothwilley]

You need to get back out there... I'd hate for you to lose your identity.

I agree with you on the oil changes... I was just hoping you had tried some of the Quaker, valvoline, & other synthetic oils to hear your opinions on them.

[Jacko3]

FRAM air filters are terrible for my Little Nissan---they seem to choke it of its required air. So, I use STP air filters---they work great. However, for oil filter, I use FRAM Tough Guard---seems to work well for my Little Nissan. Regular Fram oil filter used to allow small particles to form as sand on the top of the heads----FRAM regular oil filters are no good for my Little Nissan.

[SVTCOBRA]

Jacko, try NAPA's silver line. Made by WIX. Some of the BEST air filters.Less than $6

[Jacko3]

SVT:

Okay. I will try it on my next air filter change on my little Nissan.

[tollboothwilley]

+1 for WIX air filters

they do a good job

i bought a few for my dads truck, they were cheaper online at http://www.fleetfilter.com

you'd have to buy a few of these in bulk to make it worthwhile i'm sure