Mobil 1 10w30 extended performance

[ZacM08]

is there any downside to using 10w30 in my versa? i didnt realise the manual said 5w30

[BigBodyV]

Umm dpend how much u use it. Theres a theory tht your engine will get use to it and then burn 5 30.

[ZacM08]

so if i run it for 10-15k... its alright?

[BigBodyV]

In my opinion your fine i mean the only downfall for it is tht that oil is thicker but it aslo depends on the weather outside.

[ZacM08]

alright so with that oil and a conventional filter, i should last about a year?

[BigBodyV]

well how much u drive?

[fjwagner]

I run Mobil 1 synthetic in my BMW for 15 k. I was curious and ran an oil analysis and all was well and good at that point. So, I would not hesitate to go 10 k minimum with Mobil 1 synthetic in the V.

[ZacM08]

i drive no more than 1k per month

[Andrews Chalmers]

Why would you want to risk your long term investment by skipping on oil?

12,000 miles per year and one oil/filter change? Why not just go with conventional blends that are more affordable and change it more frequently? You definitely do not want to use thicker oil in cold temperatures and if you drive the car hard after cold starts.

[BBISHOPPCM]

I agree. Just use conventional oil an change it every 3,000. One problem with your driving style that is often overlooked is short drives and lack of driving ALSO take a toll on oil, in the form of water (moisture) accumulation. This is VERY bad for the engine in the long term, as moisture causes the oil to froth up, and when sucked into the oil distribution system, can damage bearings and other components. Just stick to a 3 month/3,000 mile regimen, and your car will thank you.

Also, this moisture problem affects all types of oil, so I wouldn't waste money on synthetic in your case (unless you're loaded). If you want to choose a good quality oil, Castrol GTX 5w30 is a good choice, as is Mobil (conventional) 5w30. AMSOIL is expensive... but very very good.

[fjwagner]

I agree. Just use conventional oil an change it every 3,000.

Modern conventional oils are designed for 5k if not more. 3000 is your Father's Oldsmobile with previous generation oils. Ran Mobil oils and tested them in a previous car and they were just fine at 5k and at 7k per my experiments. I have discussed oils with some of our ExxonMobil lube engineers and I have complete confidence in what they are telling me. I work in the Upstream side, so I produce it and they refine it.

[Andrews Chalmers]

Modern conventional oils are designed for 5k if not more. 3000 is your Father's Oldsmobile with previous generation oils. Ran Mobil oils and tested them in a previous car and they were just fine at 5k and at 7k per my experiments. I have discussed oils with some of our ExxonMobil lube engineers and I have complete confidence in what they are telling me. I work in the Upstream side, so I produce it and they refine it.

What are your experiences re age of oil? vs distance of driving?

[grogman]

Modern conventional oils are designed for 5k if not more. 3000 is your Father's Oldsmobile with previous generation oils. Ran Mobil oils and tested them in a previous car and they were just fine at 5k and at 7k per my experiments. I have discussed oils with some of our ExxonMobil lube engineers and I have complete confidence in what they are telling me. I work in the Upstream side, so I produce it and they refine it.

,,,,,,,,ok guys and gals manual 101 training.......if your engine gets problems during the 60,000 mile warranty and they ask for your oil reciepts and they notice that you weren't using 5w30.............................. ............yaaa.

[Bubs daddy]

Page 9-6 from the owners manual:

SAE 5W-30 viscosity oil is preferred for all temperatures. SAE 10W-30 or SAE 10W-40 viscosity oils may be used if the ambient temperature is above 0°F (-18°C).

You can use 10W-30 just fine as long as its above 0 degrees F.
Modified by Bubs daddy at 1:38 PM 6/1/2009

[grogman]

Page 9-6 from the owners manual:

SAE 5W-30 viscosity oil is preferred for all temperatures. SAE 10W-30 or SAE 10W-40 viscosity oils may be used if the ambient temperature is above 0°F (-18°C).

You can use 10W-30 just fine as long as its above 0 degrees F.

Modified by Bubs daddy at 1:38 PM 6/1/2009

it's also ok to jump off a cliff ........................

[fjwagner]

What are your experiences re age of oil? vs distance of driving?

No specific experience, but highway miles will be kinder on your engine and extend the oil life. How much, I am not really sure. My driving is mixed about 40/60 hwy/in-town which is my basis.

bobistheoilguy.com is a good resource for oil specific discussions.

[MinisterofDOOM]

As far as 10-40 vs 5-40, switching to a slightly heavier weight oil for summer is not uncommon, and often a good idea. Certainly won't hurt anything to make such a small jump. If you're not happy with the results (if you can even tell a difference) you can always go back.

[fjwagner]

it's also ok to jump off a cliff ........................

I think I will go second and let you tell me about it!

[BBISHOPPCM]

I agree, modern oils should be fine after 3,000 miles... however, this guy averages 1,000 miles a month. This would equate to a lot of short trips, which usually means the engine isn't quite reaching full temperature, which means the moisture content in his engine could be quite high after 5,000 miles (five months). Moisture is bad for the internals of the engine, so I recommended he just change it every three months, or 3,000 miles. For most people, a 5,000 mile interval would be just fine.

[fjwagner]

I agree, modern oils should be fine after 3,000 miles... however, this guy averages 1,000 miles a month. This would equate to a lot of short trips, which usually means the engine isn't quite reaching full temperature, which means the moisture content in his engine could be quite high after 5,000 miles (five months). Moisture is bad for the internals of the engine, so I recommended he just change it every three months, or 3,000 miles. For most people, a 5,000 mile interval would be just fine.

I think you are reaching on your conclusions. The engine is likely reaching full temp and 12k per year is a pretty good average mileage for most cars each year. Not sure where you are coming up with this moisture content assumption.