MOAT OF OIL AROUND MY PLUGS :[

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ok so my car was bogging so i was gonna take the spark plugs out, i took the coil packs aff and they were drenched in oil. i look down the spark plug hole and there is no plug to be found, its under about a good inch of oil. i didn't even know there were o rings that sat below. they told me to get a valve cover gasket kit and the orings will come in it. i have to go to the track today. will high temp RTV work just fine ?


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No. You need the o-rings

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Hijacker wrote:No. You need the o-rings
does it have to be the ones from an s13 sr ?

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Hijacker wrote:No. You need the o-rings
ok so i went to look for the orings on enjuku and they look like regular orings, they just look a little bigger. can i just go to the hardware store and buy the exact size ?

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No. They're the same material and thickness as the ones your valve cover gasket is made of. It's not a true o-ring.

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Hijacker wrote:No. They're the same material and thickness as the ones your valve cover gasket is made of. It's not a true o-ring.
crap! oh well my current ones are chewed up i bet so im gonna put rtv on those in the mean while, while my replacements are on their way

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be careful with RTV that stuff can get messy. You should just have a valve cover and spark plug seal kit over-nighted.

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UPDATE:

i used RTV on the head part like this just. till my kit gets shipped. but now my car is smoking. i think its all the oil from before that built up in the spark plug hole. not sure tho. how long does the oil take to burn off? cuz i left the car on for like 20 mins and it still smokes. it doesn't smoke as much at idle. but it smokes under boost more. is that just normal for having alot of oil fall into the cylinder? remember the spark plugs were summerged in oil, in 3 out of the 4 holes.



p.s. its blowing out white smike, isnt that water ? ill go make a video real quick

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well its not smoking when i rev it but idk if it will smoke under more boost. nobody is home right now so i can't really drive the car by the camera plus its raining and im so not doing that jank. i might later tho

but if someone would like to answer my previous questions that would be great

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my wife had a mitsubishi, non turbo, that the seals went bad on. After they were replaced it sputtered and spit out all sorts of gunk. The problem you may have is that if your car is trying spit out the gun then it will burn off in the turbo.

That is what I would be concerned with.

BTW the oil got into her cyclinders because I pulled the spark plugs to clean the wells. and I am very interested to see if that RTV holds up.

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nzmoman wrote:my wife had a mitsubishi, non turbo, that the seals went bad on. After they were replaced it sputtered and spit out all sorts of gunk. The problem you may have is that if your car is trying spit out the gun then it will burn off in the turbo. That is what I would be concerned with. BTW the oil got into her cyclinders because I pulled the spark plugs to clean the wells. and I am very interested to see if that RTV holds up.
well it will burn off eventually. and about the RTV. i dont see why not. the person who owned the car before me used it on the oil pan. people do the oil pan all the time. and its the same temperature heat that would be on the head. its high temp rtv anyways. thats what its made for. ill let you knwo what happens tho. but does anybody know how long it takes for oil to burn off from the cylinders ?

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migsk8 wrote:well it will burn off eventually. and about the RTV. i dont see why not. the person who owned the car before me used it on the oil pan. people do the oil pan all the time. and its the same temperature heat that would be on the head. its high temp rtv anyways. thats what its made for. ill let you knwo what happens tho. but does anybody know how long it takes for oil to burn off from the cylinders ?
Seriously man, are you really going to act that dumb? There is an O-ring there for a reason... RTV is used on the oil pans because the lower/upper pan is designed (you know those recessed areas) for the RTV... If you want to use RTV, I would've atleast put the chewed up O-rings back in and then coated the surface that was sticking out with RTV, not just a sh*t-load of RTV to try and make a seal... Just going to fill back up...

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Is this for real? Wow, uhhhh. yea........

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jr_ss wrote:Seriously man, are you really going to act that dumb? There is an O-ring there for a reason... RTV is used on the oil pans because the lower/upper pan is designed (you know those recessed areas) for the RTV... If you want to use RTV, I would've atleast put the chewed up O-rings back in and then coated the surface that was sticking out with RTV, not just a sh*t-load of RTV to try and make a seal... Just going to fill back up...
nah the orings on the valve cover were fine, i just added the rtv for better sealing i guess, its too early to tell if its gonna flood again or not. so far its working so im not gonna complain

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schanne wrote:Is this for real? Wow, uhhhh. yea........
you can't say anything because it all works perfect at the moment thank you very much

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dont get offended. people are just trying to make sure you don't screw up your motor. Engine temps and vibration in the head will more than likely push through RTV. But you are doing it temporarily, I just wouldn't plan on taking any long drives. Also keep in mind that if that stuff breaks loose its going in your head and God knows what that could or would do.

The oil pan does not have moving parts and the temperature is relatively cooler than the head. There are no moving parts and the vibration is very minimal compared to the head.

either way its your $$$ and your motor, and by the way, you're the one who asked...


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nzmoman wrote:dont get offended. people are just trying to make sure you don't screw up your motor. Engine temps and vibration in the head will more than likely push through RTV. But you are doing it temporarily, I just wouldn't plan on taking any long drives. Also keep in mind that if that stuff breaks loose its going in your head and God knows what that could or would do.

The oil pan does not have moving parts and the temperature is relatively cooler than the head. There are no moving parts and the vibration is very minimal compared to the head.

either way its your $$$ and your motor, and by the way, you're the one who asked...
yeah i get what you're saying. the gay thing is , the oring on the valve cover were perfectly fine. i just put rtv to go on there to be sure

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You mean a lot of RTV. Like nzmoman said, we wouldn't want to see that stuff break off and then cause major problems. Don't be going to the track now....

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well i took the pictures before i took a butter knife to flatten and take the excess off. so no there is not as much as it seems in the picture, cuz like i said the rings on the valve cover were fine

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if the spark plug well seals where fine then did you try to tighten the valve cover down more before you put the gunk on. If those seals are fine then you would not need the RTV. The seals should be as thick as your valve cover gasket. and they should have smooth edges all the way around...just make sure you get new ones if you need them.

and where is the video?

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nzmoman wrote:if the spark plug well seals where fine then did you try to tighten the valve cover down more before you put the gunk on. If those seals are fine then you would not need the RTV. The seals should be as thick as your valve cover gasket. and they should have smooth edges all the way around...just make sure you get new ones if you need them.

and where is the video?
i can't even make a video right now as my car has dies and the fuel pump is not even getting power. im not sure what it is but hopefully i can figure it out


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