Mixing Brakes

[WesTnine9]

Can anyone tell me which Nissans/Infiniti share the exact same calipers and hardware?To be a little more specific. What other models share the S13's brakes?

[hernandez5749]

To answer your first questions yes they do. Now for the secound question is a different scenario. Does your S13 have the original 4 lug wheel assembly or the 5 lug conversion? I ask this because the a brake kit for a 5 lug setup won't fit a 4 lug set up. Since you have a S13 I highly recommend switching over to a 5 lug if you haven't already done so. The brake calipers from the 300zx fit perfectly on that setup. The rest of infiniti and nissan cars run a 5x114.3mm or 5x4.5in lug setup.

Good luck

[WesTnine9]

To answer your first questions yes they do. Now for the secound question is a different scenario. Does your S13 have the original 4 lug wheel assembly or the 5 lug conversion? I ask this because the a brake kit for a 5 lug setup won't fit a 4 lug set up. Since you have a S13 I highly recommend switching over to a 5 lug if you haven't already done so. The brake calipers from the 300zx fit perfectly on that setup. The rest of infiniti and nissan cars run a 5x114.3mm or 5x4.5in lug setup.

Good luck

...uhhh ok....

I'm talking OEM caliper hardware. A direct "pop and swap" deal.
Modified by WesTnine9 at 10:02 AM 8/20/2008

[simmode1]

Yeeeah... not sure what that guy was talking about. I've seen plenty of 4 lug 240's rocking Z brakes...

I'm not an expert on the matter, but I do believe that z32 and r33 brake calipers match fron and back. Not sure about supporting equipement.

Also Infiniti j30 brake calipers match q45's...

GL!

[hernandez5749]

next time you look at a 240sx and you see the nissan z brakes on it check real good that its a 4 or 5 lug. I've never heard of a 4 lug 240sx stock brakes holding the nissan brake caliper. That caliper is meant for the 5lug setup. The z32 and r33 brakes match up cause the width of the rotor is the same 30mm. The measurement on a stock 240sx is not the same. Thats why people with stock 240sx brakes swap to the 5 lug setup like on the z32 and r33. Both of those cars share the same 5 lug setup.

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[carmo]

Q45 brakes will bolt up but you gotta drill the Q's rotors for four lug. If your interested, do a search. Theres a write up on Q45 s13 brakes by anumeric.

[hernandez5749]

finally someone else who knows what they are talkin about!

LONG LIVE THE G

[simmode1]

next time you look at a 240sx and you see the nissan z brakes on it check real good that its a 4 or 5 lug. I've never heard of a 4 lug 240sx stock brakes holding the nissan brake caliper. That caliper is meant for the 5lug setup. The z32 and r33 brakes match up cause the width of the rotor is the same 30mm. The measurement on a stock 240sx is not the same. Thats why people with stock 240sx brakes swap to the 5 lug setup like on the z32 and r33. Both of those cars share the same 5 lug setup.

My ride: G35 coupe '05 : 3in nismo cai, stillen front and rear strut towers, mastercylinder brace, torque damper, eibach sways and sportline springs, ss brakelines and clutch line, b&m short shifter, spec clutch stage 1 upgrade with flywheel, throttlebody spacer, pulstar spark plugs, clear corner lights, UR 3pc pulley kit, radiator shroud, headers, 2.5in resonated downpipes, 2.5in to 3in y-pipe, dual mini train horn kit (that is fun as hell hahaha), VQ pathfinder cooling kit, kinetix front camber and rear combo (camber/toe) kit, nismo finned differential cover.

stuff ordered: oil catch can, oil pan upgrade, 1.5 lsd, 3.9 gears, aluminum radiator with dual fans, samco hoses.

Lol... I looked very closely because I now own the 4 lug wheels he used b4 he sold the car...

[WesTnine9]

next time you look at a 240sx and you see the nissan z brakes on it check real good that its a 4 or 5 lug. I've never heard of a 4 lug 240sx stock brakes holding the nissan brake caliper. That caliper is meant for the 5lug setup. The z32 and r33 brakes match up cause the width of the rotor is the same 30mm. The measurement on a stock 240sx is not the same. Thats why people with stock 240sx brakes swap to the 5 lug setup like on the z32 and r33. Both of those cars share the same 5 lug setup.

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So your saying in order to have Z brakes you must have a 5 lug conversion?Thats not true.You can have the Z rotors drilled for a nissan 4 lug.

[hernandez5749]

hey Im not telling you that you can't. Im just sayin that it won't work naturally. Like you said, you would have to drill the rotor. If you want to go ahead and do that be my guest. I would rather have a 5 lug setup just due to the fact that its a stronger setup than the 4 lug. But that is common knowledge. To each their own. Good luck though.

[simmode1]

I can't believe this guy has the nerve to call someone a because they may not want to go 5 lug unnecessarily...

Stronger setup? Dude, unless its a fully prepped and dedicated racecar, the odds are 4 lug is plenty strong enuff for your day to day need. That includes drifting, autox and circuit racing.

Really the only thing you need 5 lug for is that most good racing wheels cater to the 5x114.3 lug pattern and not the 4x114.3. But there are plenty of decent wheels available for 4 lug users.

[hernandez5749]

why are you acting as if i put that ricer logo up to piss you off. You got something against rice? If you like a 4lug setup up great. I prefer a 5 lug setup. BIG DEAL. Everything is only opinion anyways. And lets not forget that all of this sub culture started from rice rockets. I've had my fair share of honda's and modded them too. Have a great day.

hhahaha the nerve...lol

[simmode1]

Actually, the only thing you've done in this thread is piss me off. You come in giving incorrect info about brake swaps, pass off your opinion as fact, and insinuate that I don't know what I'm talking about.

You may want to phrase things more carefully in the future. And maybe your subculture was spawned by ricers... but mine was descended from the hotrodders.

[hernandez5749]

Congrats on coming up from the subculture of hotrodders. Really, honestly you must be the coolest guy here. Anyways my opinions are my opinions thats why this is a forum for people to share information. Now on the lug setup, everyone and that includes "hotrodders" knows that a 5 lug is stronger than a 4 lug, I mean c'mon that is common sense man. Inreference to the brake swaps - you guys wanna go ahead and "drill" your rotors and hope that you get it right the first time before you realized that you f#$ked up and have to go and buy another one; hell be my guest and waste all your money. All I did was offer an extremely simple solution that will work everytime. Have a nice day Mr. Hotrodder.

p.s. amazing that people actually take the time to get pissed off at others in here. It's a forum people. Childish.

[Dammitboy]

Geez, you guys whine worse then the ****s I work with. What's this "won't work natural" nonsense? Has worked fine for me for over 3 years. Sure, 5 lugs are stronger then 4, but that wasn't the point here, was it? Try to keep the snide comments to yourselves.

I'm not sure what other platforms share S13 hardware, but JDM S13's used slightly larger front brakes. Rears were the same as USDM.

[WesTnine9]

k guys, simmer down now. Does anyone have an answer for me?I think the B13 sentra shares the S13 front calipers and hardware. amirite?

[adrianfromthecastle]

k guys, simmer down now.

yeah seriously... you guys get all worked up for the dumbest reasons, lol... jeez.

Does anyone have an answer for me?I think the B13 sentra shares the S13 front calipers and hardware. amirite?

we're talking about upgrades right? why would you want to put b13 calipers on?

anyways, I thought this was common knowledge...

but heres a few common brake upgrades:*jdm 180sx front caliper/rotors: its a slight upgrade (visually at least, lol). Caliper, rotor, and pads are slightly larger. You'll use Altima brake pads.*J30/Q45 front calipers w/ rotors: cheap 2 piston upgrade... not much modification needed other than drilling the rotors to 4 lug (if you want to stay 4 lug) and removing or cutting your stock dust pan..*Z brakes (skylines and jdm s14s also have similar setups): this is a bit more complicated than just slapping on the front rotors and calipers (plus no one ever recommends just getting the front rotors and calipers). You'll need the ss conversion lines... and if you don't wanna have a ghetto brake feel or bais, I'd recommend doing all 4 calipers/rotors and get the accompanying brake booster and brake master cylinder...*G35/Z33 Brembos: I think its a straight bolt on affair. If I recall correctly, you'll just need to widen the hole a little bit where the caliper attaches to the knuckles. I'd assume its the same as the 4 piston Z brake upgrade... don't be ghetto and do it correctly.*Evo/STI Brembos: Same as G35/Z33 Brembos, but instead of widening the hole, you'll need to source out some caliper brackets. Theres a few places that make them, just do a simple google search, and I'm sure you'll find it.

[hernandez5749]

It goes to show you that even in a simple forum, like this one, that there are people that still do not know how to behave properly. Plus coming from someone that is from Texas, I would imagine that you would actually have some proper etiquete but it goes to show you that you can't teach a dumb redneck new tricks. Have a great one everybody.

oh, and thanx for that extra info on the brake swaps.

LONG LIVE THE G