Mishimoto Starter?

[maj Andres]

Has anyone used one of these on their SR20?? The one that was on my car that was rebuilt using one from auto zone took a crap on me Or it sometimes works, and sometimes it doesn't. So I ordered one for $220 shipped YIKES! Installed it today and all I got was a "CLICK" tried to start it several times but I got nothing. It's getting it's 12V. It's getting a signal when I turn the key. It's properly grounded. I'm getting 12V at the batt; I even tried jump starting the car. I even took it to auto zone to get it tested, they tested it 3 times and it worked! I checked all the fuses in the car; they're good. What the hell did I miss?

[fastass]

positive you put the positive and grounds on right?? if not get two wires hook them to ur battery and try to turn it over by using the wires off your batt... if it turns over ur in good shape.. put it back on and try it again and make sure everything is in the correct place.

[maj Andres]

There is no need to use jumper cables from the battery to the starter because it was already tested at auto zone, and it tested good. Thanks for the input though. Maybe these starters don't have enough torque??

[fastass]

well make sure that you have good connections too.. i know mine did that with bad connection..

[mRodiek]

Its in your wiring, I have the same issue. Try replacing your ignition switch, if its not that then its in your wiring, check in the fender part of the harness because when I played with that on mine it fixed it for a while.

[94_240sx]

Well, sounds like a bad starter. I went whole ordeal with my friend's car, so I know this one. Yes, new starter worked perfectly on Autozone tester, but never worked on a car. Why? Starter was good enough to pass the test, but not good enought turn a flywheel and start the car. We went through 2 new starters from Autozone and 3rd one worked like a charm. It's a bad stater.

[maj Andres]

So a brand new mishimoto straight out of the box is bad? what are the odds? I'm hoping it is a bad starter so that way I know it isn't my wiring. Well tomorrow i'll be putting in the old one that only works when it wants to. If it starts (hopefully) then I'm kicking that mishimoto back to the company for another one. Good thing they come with the lifetime warranty. If they make me pay for shipping I'm gonna be pissed!

On another thought, it sucks only having one car! I'm looking into getting a RAM 1500, 2006 and up.

[mRodiek]

Thats not necessarily true, it could be a bad solenoid as well. I have one of the Mishimoto starters and when I hooked it up and after 1 day I blew a 150amp fuse between my battery [in trunk] and fuse box.

Oh and I had one before from Enjuku that was bad, now I have a Mishimoto from Phase2.

[maj Andres]

Looks like mishimoto put out quite a few bad starters into the market...

[mRodiek]

Thats why I think its in the wiring, when I re-did my fender part of the harness conversion it worked for about 2 days [Im a delivery guy so thats alot] but has started to fail again, I may go back & soder everything to make sure.

[maj Andres]

Well I put in the auto zone one that was probably remanufactured in China and it started up on the first try. It looks like the mishimoto starter that I got BRAND NEW is bad of the shelf. Phew! it's not my wiring!

DiftBoy07, you said you had the one from enjuku, are you talking about the isis one? so... your on your second mishimoto starter?

[mRodiek]

Wait & see if they problem doesnt continue, dont get too excited yet.

I had the ISIS one from Enjuku, and now I have the mishimoto that blew my 150A fuse and I havent used it since. I still think its my wiring so I have to go through & do it all correctly soon.

[OutToWinPAHC]

I would think its a bad starter relay, bad engine ground, or corroded connections.

[maj Andres]

Wait & see if they problem doesnt continue, dont get too excited yet.

Well I already now that my rebuilt autozone starter is on the fritz and sooner or later it'll leave me stranded at the worst possible moment.

I would think its a bad starter relay, bad engine ground, or corroded connections.

Checked out my engine ground and it's good. No corroded connections anywhere (that have to do with the starter at least) Wether it's the starter relay or not, who knows all I know is that the mishimoto unit is bad and I'm kicking it back to the shop that I got it from. I knew I should of kept the box that it came in... Doh!

[OutToWinPAHC]

So your starter went bad and you got this one? Then you install it and all you hear is a relay click. You remove it and have it bench tested and it test good. I would be inclined to say it's a problem with the car, and not the starter.

Get a meter and check for good positive voltage to the solenoid. Connect the signal wire to the meter, then the other lead to ground and make sure you have good voltage. Also check the voltage at the battery cable at the starter.

[maj Andres]

So your starter went bad and you got this one? Then you install it and all you hear is a relay click. You remove it and have it bench tested and it test good. I would be inclined to say it's a problem with the car, and not the starter.

Get a meter and check for good positive voltage to the solenoid. Connect the signal wire to the meter, then the other lead to ground and make sure you have good voltage. Also check the voltage at the battery cable at the starter.

Yes. starter went bad and got a mishimoto. Yes all I hear is a click. Yup, bench tested and it tested good. Nope, not a problem with the car. I installed the original "bad" one and it started up fine, but I fear that it's on it's last leg since it stop working on me once already. The first thing I did was check all those things that you just mentioned and it all checked out good.

[mRodiek]

IMO you have bad wiring home slice. But if you find otherwise let me know, because Im just going to solder all of my connections

[maj Andres]

Nah man, the car STARTS right now as it stands. (unless the autozone rebuilt starter craps out on me again, which I think it will) But as soon as I pop in the mishimoto unit, I get NADA. Bad unit off the shelf FTMFL

[maj Andres]

Well, it looks like mishimoto is honoring their lifetime warranty and are sending me another one and I don't even have to return the old one I would of thought that they would want it so they could troubleshoot it. Oh well, hopefully the new one will work properly.

[maj Andres]

So I got the new one in and it started after I got a few "clicks". Turned off the car, and it hesitantly started. Tried 20-30 more times and I got zilch. So I decided to swap out my old solenoid into it and BAM! it started right up. I swapped it out on both of the mishimoto's and they both started up my car! Looks like you really can't trust those machines to test out your starter, huh?

[maj Andres]

As some of you may know that it is possible to rebuild your OE starter using a starter for the KA that is made by Hitachi ONLY, it seems that it is not possible to rebuild this one with the Hitachi because of their physical differences. (shorter and skinnier)







Other differences that won't make a difference but is just knowledge for you.Minor difference where it mates to the flywheel.

Auto parts store solenoid (hitachi)

Mishimoto solenoid (looks like the OE JDM one)

But it might be possible to use the Mitsubishi unit. Since it has a shorter body.

Again, this is just a possibility for the mishimoto starter owners IF mishimoto for some reason decides not to honor their lifetime warranty (you got it used, no receipt etc...) I'm not saying this will work, but if some one ever gets a chance to do this, go ahead and post it on this thread so that we all may know. (why does it feel like i'm talking to my self?)