Minimum requirements to get a CA18DET installed?

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Okay.. I'm not a rich guy or anything like that. My KA is going on it's last legs (the transmission sounds funny, a lifter is broken, and it's puffing some smoke and burning hella oil) so I'm gonna need to swap within the next 6 months.

I'm looking to buy a CA18DET within the next 3 months or so. I'm most likely going to go through a guy I know from another board because it's a trustworthy person and all that jazz.

On to the point. I have a 92 240SX SE (without ABS or LSD). When I get the CA18DET what all will I need to have it installed and running? We're talking minimum here (basically as if it came in the car factory).

I'm getting the engine for 1400 plus 300 shipping and it comes with ecu, harness, engine, and transmission.

Will the engine come with a factory intercooler or will I need to check on that? I don't have money for a FMIC or anything like that right now but want to do that in the future.

Like I said.. what are the things I need to pick up and what all do I need to look for? I searched for this but mostly everyone was asking for aftermarket parts. I'm a poor white boy in TN that just wants a good running car that can be fast in the near future.


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for 1400 plus shipping, you should get a whole clip an IC and piping, every thing needed for the swap !.. you unfortunatley will need to have other transportation. regardless of how many times you heard this is a weekend job.. its not be fully prepared to have that car down a month if not more!!! ask about the side mount factory IC..

but the essentials youll need are a FSM for both cars, i have a FSM for the 180sx.. now youll need all the fluids

spark plugsoil transmission ps brake so on youll need primary wire gauge similar to the oemnew belts possibly new water pump, thermostatnew clutch resurfaced fly wheel tools stuff to complete the wiring, connectors an such it doesnt seem that expsensive but it gets to be with all the little crap you tend to have to run to the store to pick up cause you missed somthing

trust me my motors taken me a while to get running and im still strugling with it ! !

if you have any questions about it all hit me up on AIM im always up to help out the family !!!Jon

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nashville thats only a days drive, if you need help let me know or if you want to just pay to have it done let me know ill do it fairly cheap labor wise parts wise is up to you...Jon

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slw240sx wrote:new clutch resurfaced fly wheel


The engines are supposed to have less than 40k miles on them or so.. do you still think I'll need a new clutch and resurfaced flywheel?

Also, would buying a front clip make the swap quicker?

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a clip wont make it much faster just a little easier.. and yeah you dont know how hard or abused that clutch is, but i guess you could roll on it till it dies, i would if i didnt already have a brand spanking new clutch include in my buy

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just to give you an idea, this is someones sig. on NWN, this will tell you the condition os your "low mileage" engine:

Hi, your engine, if you ordered one is on the way. I know exactly where it is in Japan. Currently an 18 year old is attempting to drift it through an industrial district in his home prefacture. He likes to over rev the engine and also hasn't changed the oil in 13000 km. Don't worry about the wait, it wont be long before the kid crashes his car and I get your high quality engine over hear for a grrrreat price...

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Xero wrote:Hi, your engine, if you ordered one is on the way. I know exactly where it is in Japan. Currently an 18 year old is attempting to drift it through an industrial district in his home prefacture. He likes to over rev the engine and also hasn't changed the oil in 13000 km. Don't worry about the wait, it wont be long before the kid crashes his car and I get your high quality engine over hear for a grrrreat price...


Wow... sounds like the way I drive! (Sadly I'm not being sarcastic :()

Just got my job.. start tomorrow at 3pm. I will be buying my engine at the end of upcoming month.

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I've never really done this, just 'cause I have a thing about doing things first, and being original, so I never like to give out my specific plans for my car, but I guess I can be a good friend to a fellow CA18 enthusiest,

this is my plan for my CA18 swap coming this X-mas (need to work my a$$ off this summer :) this has many mods, but it's a good starting point for a base install,

Stage-I-- $5k

JDM - CA18DET Engine From Clip

OE - 300zxTT Fuel Pump--S13 VLSD--Hoses, Fittings, & ClampsKakimoto - HYPER 2000 FULLMEGA N1+ Dual--High Flow FrontpipeHKS - High-Flow Catalytic ConverterToda - Lightweight SR20DET FlywheelCenterforce - Dual Friction KA24 ClutchOBX - Short ShifterDenso - Iridium Cold Spark PlugsSun Auto - Hyper Ground Engine Grounding SystemNISMO - Polyurethane MotormountsAutometer - Boost, Oil Press, A/FCustom - Ported Turbo Downpipe

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well, that over priced grounding system you could get for around 20$ at a stereo shop!, and youll need a EGT gauge also. do some shoping around i just put all my stuff in and i still have only around 3300 in the swap.

Ca18det w/parts car 1000s13 shell 500FMIC 500GT turbo + manifold 500trust dp free came with motor and parts carexhaust free " "turbo sx bov 160180sx tail center 50jdm gauges 50battery relocate kit free " "stage one chip free " "new stage 2clutch free " "two electric fans free " "

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EDIT

how the hell did i double post

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double post :)

and the reason for this stuff is 'cause I'm REALLY trying to make the engine bay look show worthy, I'll be repainting the bay also, but I like nice, clean engine bays, though I doubt it'll ever see a show :) I also plan SS hoses and other things in the future, so that grounding system is just trying to make things clean and easier on me, I don't made the $$

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does anyone know who does ca/sr installations on the east coast besides heavy throttle

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s13-master wrote:does anyone know who does ca/sr installations on the east coast besides heavy throttle


Dauntless can install them but that's up in the NorthEast section of America. I'm having a friend install mine when I get it in.

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ill do tha swap but im in ohio

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Okay.. the engine comes with engine, transmission, ecu, harness (uncut), side mount intercooler, and sometimes other extras....

I'm planning on getting a 11 or 12 lbs flywheel (If this is not a good idea let me know!) and a decent clutch. Both will be ACT brand if I can get em in that brand (heard a lot of good things about them). If things go as planned I should have the money in 2 more paychecks (3 at most).

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if you can afford them thn go for it if not just a clutch will do, id save money toward other important stuff like a new fuel pump.. but thats me !! wait a sec no never mind thats not me i havent even bought a fuel pump yet ! just evertying else i didnt exactly need yet

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slw240sx wrote:if you can afford them thn go for it if not just a clutch will do, id save money toward other important stuff like a new fuel pump.. but thats me !! wait a sec no never mind thats not me i havent even bought a fuel pump yet ! just evertying else i didnt exactly need yet
I have been told to get a water pump and new belts too when I do this swap. I was also told I'd almost have to get the flywheel resurfaced (hence just getting a new one) and most likely the clutch would be fried too. This is coming from a lot of swapped Honda people I know so it could be different for Nissans.

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the new water pump is a good idea, mine made a terrible squealing noise because it had been sitting for so long. id recommend one from the dealer though. it was made sooo much better than my autozone one. i got new belts too.

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yes, you are right (by the way typing really really hurts right now so please excuse errors, i split open the tip of my index finger!) you should replace all belts even timming belt, water pump maybe even oil pump, and no dont settle for the rebuilds buy the factory ones itll save you alot of hassles, might want to check out the starter and alternator also. but most likely they will be alright ! the fly wheel should only cost about 30$ to be resurfaced as aposed to 400-500 lightend flywheels! that very well could buy you that new turbo if yours is on the brink of crapping out. also gauges get them, i know i had a big scare tonight regarding oil pressure, i dont have a gauge and my dummy lamp came on while flying down a country road! i , immediately turned the car of mid acceleration and pulled over to check temps an oil levels. started the car and all was fine ! i checked what i think is the pressure sender and it looks as if the wires are knacked im ordering the oil pressure gauge in the morining when i pick up the TT ahh its late and dilbert the cartoon is on and i completely lost my train of thought sorry later Jon

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Hi can you tell me why is every body buying 300zx full pump??Is it better then 200sx full pump??:) How much do i have to pay for it and other parts to do ths change??

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fuel pump not full pump sorry :icesangel

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oh and after tonights ordeal!! i strongly let me say that a again i strongly recomend replacing all coolant hoses ALL coolant hoses, i had one blow apart that wasnt in a good spot when its late and very very cold out !!!!

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Big Body LX wrote:Dauntless can install them but that's up in the NorthEast section of America. I'm having a friend install mine when I get it in.


Uhh... Daunttless is in Iowa. That's midwest not northeast. :)

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ChickenBoo wrote:Uhh... Daunttless is in Iowa. That's midwest not northeast. :)


Doesn't change the fact that I couldn't have him install it even if I wanted to.

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which clutch and flywheel are you suppose to use for the ca swap. is it the ka24de clutch kit and sr20det flywheel?


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