Miles to empty disappears under 15? And how much gas in reserve?

[howie411]

So driving home from work today, I had planned on stopping at the gas station. My 2018 Rogue Hybrid shows 25 miles left to empty. When it hit 15 miles left to empty (I was about 1 mile from the gas station). Instead of showing 15 miles it just showed ---- is that normal? How much is in reserve? I filled up the tank and it took 13.884 gallons. The rogue has a 14.5 gallon tank so was there .62 gallons left for reserve?

[casperfun]

Consider yourself lucky. I get 30-40 until empty.

Most of these readings are approximations and I take it with a grain of salt.

Never saw anything close to 15 in my old rogue.

Once I had 2 fuel bars left and my rogue wouldn’t start cuz it was empty.

I try to make sure I don’t go too low now.

Not good for the evap system in the gas tank.

I’ve been seeing my missing first orange bar the last couple of months since being awol for practically a decade since adding fuel system cleaner.

Seriously, I needed to do this this 10 yrs ago when I first bought just to get that back???

[AZhitman]

I don't know of any vehicle that gives an "estimated miles to empty" under 30 or so.

At that point, the float is on the bottom of the tank and you're running on what's left in the very lowest part of the tank and whatever's in the system.

Running it that low is, quite simply, not smart. FILL' ER UP!

[datechboss101]

So driving home from work today, I had planned on stopping at the gas station. My 2018 Rogue Hybrid shows 25 miles left to empty. When it hit 15 miles left to empty (I was about 1 mile from the gas station). Instead of showing 15 miles it just showed ---- is that normal? How much is in reserve? I filled up the tank and it took 13.884 gallons. The rogue has a 14.5 gallon tank so was there .62 gallons left for reserve?

LMAO Welcome to my world where I push my 2016 to the 500s-mile range, and abuse the living heck outta it and still give proper maintainence. When the miles till empty on mine goes "---" from xx miles remaining, I can easily estimate that I can get at least 20 miles, since each time it happens, the pump clicks at roughly near 14.1 gals with 0.4 gals remaining. So my understanding is that you aren't pushing your Rogue to its potential with the fuel economy. At one point the pump clicked at 14.4 gals, so I am pretty sure the reserve is less on this compared to our previous Honda Accord, which had a 17.1 gal tank and a 2 gal reserve.

When this first happened to me, I literally was on the Florida Turnpike, like probably 30 miles away from home. Since I have been driving 60 MPH most of the time, I dropped my speed to 55 MPH (slowest speed on the turnpike legally, FHP confirmed it) and had my hazards on for the remainder of the drive. That gave me a gas tank of 520 miles exact.

Btw, whats your average fuel economy that you are getting in your 2018?

[Rogue One]

This is an ongoing complaint about both generations of the Rogue, having been discussed ad nauseam. BTW we have an incredible SEARCH feature on this forum.

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Here's one discussion. https://forums.nicoclub.com/post6721132.html

As indicated by casperfun you should NEVER allow your vehicle to run out of gas as it can damage the fuel pump and possibly your injectors as well.

[howie411]

So driving home from work today, I had planned on stopping at the gas station. My 2018 Rogue Hybrid shows 25 miles left to empty. When it hit 15 miles left to empty (I was about 1 mile from the gas station). Instead of showing 15 miles it just showed ---- is that normal? How much is in reserve? I filled up the tank and it took 13.884 gallons. The rogue has a 14.5 gallon tank so was there .62 gallons left for reserve?

I don't typically let it get below 50 MPG, but the gas station was closed the night before so I figured I'd wait till the next day. Also since I have a Hybrid I did a lot of coasting / was on EV mode so I figured I'd be able to get a bit further. I typically get about 29 mpg each tank.

[jryka]

by howie411 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:38 pm

So driving home from work today, I had planned on stopping at the gas station. My 2018 Rogue Hybrid shows 25 miles left to empty. When it hit 15 miles left to empty (I was about 1 mile from the gas station). Instead of showing 15 miles it just showed ---- is that normal? How much is in reserve? I filled up the tank and it took 13.884 gallons. The rogue has a 14.5 gallon tank so was there .62 gallons left for reserve?


IMO, to assume you have that level of accuracy is a mistake. How do you know your fill up was exactly 14.5 gallons or that all 100% of the fuel in a tank will be used before you run out. There are too many variables to count on hundredths or even tenths of a gallon.

[AZhitman]

LMAO Welcome to my world where I push my 2016 to the 500s-mile range, and abuse the living heck outta it

Easy to say when someone else paid for it. Let's not mistake your anecdotal experience for actual, useful mechanical advice.

Running it that low is simply stupid, for a myriad of reasons. It's a car, not a video game.

[rabidus]

I have put 30-40 miles on my 2011 rogue after it went to ------. I always fill up the tank when I get gas. I have close to 150,000 miles on it, I bought it around 100,000 miles on it. I let my previous car(90 Lexus LS400) go after 300,000 miles with the same routine, never had a fuel pump problem.

[AZhitman]

Good story, but hardly relevant. Here's why:

A fuel pump is an electric motor, and it's cooled by the surrounding fuel. Heat kills motors, and just because you were fortunate doesn't mean you didn't shorten the useful life of the fuel pump in either car. You gain nothing by running it dry.

If you've ever dropped and inspected a fuel tank with 100k miles on it and seen the funk in the bottom of the tank, you'd never let it go below 1/4 tank.

BTW, a 90 LS400 is an awesome car. Wish I'd bought one when they were relatively new (I drive a LS460L now).

[rabidus]

Good story, but hardly relevant. Here's why:

A fuel pump is an electric motor, and it's cooled by the surrounding fuel. Heat kills motors, and just because you were fortunate doesn't mean you didn't shorten the useful life of the fuel pump in either car. You gain nothing by running it dry.

If you've ever dropped and inspected a fuel tank with 100k miles on it and seen the funk in the bottom of the tank, you'd never let it go below 1/4 tank.

BTW, a 90 LS400 is an awesome car. Wish I'd bought one when they were relatively new (I drive a LS460L now).

I have been driving for 34 years and I only fill up after the light comes on. I have never had a fuel pump problem at all ever! I service my own cars. I've owned Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Infiniti, and Lexus, never had to change a fuel pump with the way I fill up.

I try to time it where I fill up as soon as the light comes on, but it doesn't always work out that way.

I service my friends 1999 Toyota Camry with at least 200,000 miles now and he always runs on fumes before filling up. He's had the car for over 10 years.

I have changed a fuel pump on another friends GMC Seirra, but it went at around 300,000 miles.

[AZhitman]

Again, anecdotal evidence with an infinitesimally small sample size doesn't negate the laws of thermodynamics.

You've been lucky. My points remain.

[rabidus]

Again, anecdotal evidence with an infinitesimally small sample size doesn't negate the laws of thermodynamics.

You've been lucky. My points remain.

I'll take 34 years of "luck", your words, anytime. Luck doesn't have anything to do with the operation of a machine. IMHO

I don't know what the life span of a fuel pump is, at the end of the day, I'll just install a new one if it ever breaks. Most fuel pumps are under the back seats and plug and play.

I'm not arguing the laws of thermodynamics, I guess in my experience they don't apply to my cars.

I stand corrected, back about 1990 I had a problem with a cam driven fuel pump on a 1980 Pontiac Gran Prix. The bolts backed out, I simply had to put new bolts on and it was good to go.