might buy some rims.. but have questions

[eliterit]

I went to discount tire today and was looking around at a wheel and tire package that i liked. The motegi FF5's 17x7 +42 offset

http://www.wheels2000.com/motegiFF5.jpg

The salesman said that the wheels would fit but for some weird reason i didnt buy them on the spot since i know 240's have specific offsets and what not.

Someone stop me from buying these wheels if they wont fit right. And if they dont , anyone know of a similar looking wheel that would? and what size with what size tires?

this is all for a 90 240sx fastback

[niznos]

Those should fit just fine. I use 215/45/17 tires.

[eliterit]

cool thanks,,,

do u happen to know if those will clear tein coilovers???

[candela]

i definetyl would NOT buy those as you will have a hard time with clearance....

For instance 16x6.5 +40 SE wheels BARELY clear coils... So pucshing it in another 2mm and THEN adding ~.25" on each side will mot likely rub coils.

[niznos]

I don't know if they'll clear coilovers, but they will do fine with stock or simple lowering springs. You'll want to listen to candela or anyone else with actual experience with the coilover setups.

[eliterit]

damn, that sucks

Those wheels i really liked, but what offset should i keep in mind and width if i'm going to go with coilovers and 17's? I have no clue on how to use the offset calculators and so many people have different opinions on wheel offsets

[goomba240]

I would just go with some 16's if I were you. Is there a particular reason why you want 17's?

[marshun]

its for bling factor

that offset is way too much. shoot for 35+ and below i think. or was it 25+ and below?

but yeah..... 40 and above is just wasting money.

[Force-fed]

if you want to be sure your gonna clear coil overs and big brakes 17x7 wheels with a +30 offset in front and 17x8 +35 offset in the rear should well work for an s13. you can mess with those offsets a bit too. hope this helps.

[eliterit]

In the drifting mag i have, they have a foldout of a s13 with the rotora big brake upgrade kit and Tein HE's with the typhoons in 17 +40offset with 215-45 in front w/10mm spacer and in rear 17 +35 235-45

anyone have an opinion on that setuP?

[Force-fed]

if you use a 10mm spacer on a +40 offset it's effectivley giving you +30offset, if you catch my drift....no pun intended. the thing with using a spacer is your gonna have to get longer wheel studs because the stock ones wont have enough thread left on them, so you'll have to buy spacers, and wheel studs, plus your wheels. if i'm not mistaken i think you can get typhoons with a +27 offset which would be fine for the front of the s13, and you can use coilovers and big brakes with that set up.

[marshun]

if you want to be sure your gonna clear coil overs and big brakes 17x7 wheels with a +30 offset in front and 17x8 +35 offset in the rear should well work for an s13. you can mess with those offsets a bit too. hope this helps.

disregard my post. i wrote it backwards :P lol.

but yeah those offsets will work fine.

[eliterit]

if you use a 10mm spacer on a +40 offset it's effectivley giving you +30offset, if you catch my drift....no pun intended. the thing with using a spacer is your gonna have to get longer wheel studs because the stock ones wont have enough thread left on them, so you'll have to buy spacers, and wheel studs, plus your wheels. if i'm not mistaken i think you can get typhoons with a +27 offset which would be fine for the front of the s13, and you can use coilovers and big brakes with that set up.

keep in mind that im not going to do the brake upgrade with these wheels though I'm just going with tein he's. So im going with 4 lug, i dont know if +27 is avaliable, i didnt see it on the zigen site....

[eliterit]

you'd want more offset in the rear. just so the wheels fit better. thats all. unless you like the tuck look.

i think i made a mistake, it actually has 17x7.5 in front and 17x8 in the rear, NOT 7,, sorry, thats probably why it would look tuck then as i see in the pic it is flush.

[eliterit]

OKAY OKAY,

I think i've decided what size wheel I want

I want to keep the wheels the same size due to ease of rotation.

So I'm going with 17x7.5 +40 w/10mm spacer (long wheel studs of course) in front

if i get the same size wheel in the back, would it be best to go with a 10 mm spacer as well? or different size spacer or no spacer.

Please forgive my stupidity in wheel offset knowledge but i'm slowly learning and i think i'm understanding a bit more about how this works.

btw,, do spacers really suck?

[Force-fed]

i've never used spacers before, my s14 is a 5 lug car so when i bought wheels it was easy, with my s13's i havent decided what i'm gonna do, but if i used spacers up front i'd use the same size spacer in the rear.jspec.com has typhoons on thier site and are listed at 17x8 +35mm offset for 4x114.3 you could use these with a 5mm spacer, if you want to step up from 7.5's. thats probably the direction i'm going for my s13's.

[eliterit]

i've never used spacers before, my s14 is a 5 lug car so when i bought wheels it was easy, with my s13's i havent decided what i'm gonna do, but if i used spacers up front i'd use the same size spacer in the rear.jspec.com has typhoons on thier site and are listed at 17x8 +35mm offset for 4x114.3 you could use these with a 5mm spacer, if you want to step up from 7.5's. thats probably the direction i'm going for my s13's.

Okay great! then that's probably what i'm going with since it'll clear coils. I'm going to wait 2 days before i get em though just incase anyone knows these wont work with coils with a 5 mm spacer..

[Force-fed]

when you get 'em post some pics so i can see how they look on the car.

[eliterit]

thats weird,, jspec.com is selling 17x8 +35 typhoons when 5zigen doesnt even sell that offset on their website...

If they dont sell them in that offset,, should i just get 17x8 +40 and go with 10mm spacer all around???????

i hate to be a bug but i dont want to buy the wrong rims

thanks so much for the help guys

[Dattebayo]

you know i have to say this only... I was told the other day the the larger the number you have for your offset, the more the tire is pulled away from your spring. So if you put a +42x wheel on a 240's suspension setup with a 7 inch wide tire should not be a problem running the stock springs. The tires are almost the same stock for width so you would be able to run them with most aftermarkets...

[Force-fed]

thats weird,, jspec.com is selling 17x8 +35 typhoons when 5zigen doesnt even sell that offset on their website...

If they dont sell them in that offset,, should i just get 17x8 +40 and go with 10mm spacer all around???????

i hate to be a bug but i dont want to buy the wrong rims

thanks so much for the help guys

i checked 5zigens site and your right they dont have that size listed. i would call jspec and find out if it's a typo. all 5zigen has it listed in is 17x7.5 +40mm offset. so if thats the case you can use the 10mm spacer with that wheel and you'll be good to go. i would use the spacers front and rear also, with the rear it's not so much an issue of space for the coil overs but a wider track front and rear cant do anything but help!

[eliterit]

damn, discount tire didnt have the rims in stock so i have to wait til monday to see if they can get them. The guy that I talked to thinks i should go with 215/40/17 tires which i'll probably get since i dont know much about tire sizes...

all i can do now is wait til monday....

[eliterit]

Well, today the rims are installed.

I went with 17x7.5 40MM215/45 Kuhmo 711's

I installed these wheels WITHOUT the spacers and they look really good. I was kinda surprised that they're not as tucked in as i thought they would be. I do have the 10mm spacers and 60mm nismo studs for when I do get the tein he's.

They dont rub at all and they look great. Cant wait to get some pics up soon.

[SoCalS14]

Just so you all know...here is my set-up concerning wheels and offsets:

Work Termist (two-piece)

Fron: 17X8 +20 225/17/45 Rear: 17X9 +27 245/17/40

= PERFECT FIT on my s14....the rears have a 3" lip!!!

They clear coilovers and 300zx brakes (Just installed my Z brakes!!)

[eliterit]

click here

[msaskin]

you know i have to say this only... I was told the other day the the larger the number you have for your offset, the more the tire is pulled away from your spring. So if you put a +42x wheel on a 240's suspension setup with a 7 inch wide tire should not be a problem running the stock springs. The tires are almost the same stock for width so you would be able to run them with most aftermarkets...

That was explained to you incorrectly. A higher offset means the inside of the wheel/tire will be pulled in closer to the suspension upright. Lower offset is the opposite.

EX: a +40 offset wheel will look more "sucked in" to the wheelwell (and therefore be closer to rubbing suspension) than a +30 offset wheel.

Of course, this is all dependent on width as well, but you get the point.

~matt