met a totally BSing dealer today......(a bit lengthy ^^")

[Northernstar]

yeah.....so I went to a Nissan dealership today and asked to test drive a 3.5SE. This salesperson asked me when will I be purchasing the vehicle and how come I don't test drive the 2.5. I told him that it will be around this Sept and I currently drive a V6 so I don't want to downgrade to an I4. He then told me I should test drive the vehicle until that time since the 2010 model year will be out and it "WILL BE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANIMAL." Yeah.....right.....2010 model year will only have minor changes since it's only mid-generation mod. So I told him I want to see how altima coupe handles on icy road. Then he told me to wait for a sec while he looks for an vehicle.

After a while, he came back and told me I couldn't test drive one since someone the other day crashed a car while test driving. The only was is to let him drive the car and me sitting in the passenger seat. At this point I was like WTF!?!? He went on saying that I should be getting at an SUV instead of a coupe in a rude manner and blah blah blah.

He then asked me what other vehicles am I looking at, so I told him accord coupe V6. After hearing this, he started saying Altima is way better than Accord and it is a top end sports car so there is no comparison between the two. He also said that the CVT is the nest transmission since it DOESN'T CHANGE GEAR. I was like LMAO!! I then told him, I have read quite a few comparison tests done by car magzines and they ranked accord a notch above altima(no offense to ya'll altima coupe owners ) and CVT DO change gears but not in a sense as a regular transmission, it just doesn't have a fixed gear ratio. CVT changes gear by sliding a metal belt along two variable-diameter pulleys. Now he got all mad and everything and asked me if accord is so good why don't I just get an accord!? So I told him it's all about quality, price and personal preference.

Then he asked me if I could speed things up a little bit(buy the car earlier). I told me I want to wait until 2010 model year comes out so I can get some discount on the 09 models. Hearing this, He told me firmly that altima coupe is limisted production model and it's not like they have an acre of them waiting to be sold so there would be very little discount, if any. And I was like , yeah right, stop BSing me (of course I didn't say it out loud ), then I left the dealership. There is no point taking a test DRIVE if I can't DRIVE the car

So I just want to comfirm a few question with you guys......

1. Is altima coupe really limited production model?2. Will there be any discount on 09 models once 2010 models come out?3. Am I right about how CVT works?

thnx a bunch for finish reading all that

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[headhunt3r]

What dealership did you go to? I bought mine at Morrey (close to lougheed mall) and they were pretty good with it. The dealer is pretty close to the highway too so when I test drove it I got to stretch its legs (2.5 only but still).

1. It is not a "limited production" in the same sense that they only built 200 Reventon's

2. I think considering how hurting the economy is right now it shouldn't be too hard to get a 4 digit discount on your car. (I paid cost + 500 for mine...) Try your tactics a little different with salesmen in general. Tell them straight up that you're ready to buy if the right deal comes across, and they'll let you know the ball park of how much they'd go with you (I think I was offered a 1500 discount on the new Impreza when I was comparing). I'm really not too sure about whether the 2010's will make a big difference on the pricing of 09's cuz truth be told A/C's when I got mine were selling without too much work to get them off the lot.

3. Don't know! Not a mechanic!

[BlackMamba08]

the 2009 Altima is technically in a limited model basis because Nissan has cut production on all of their production models due to the slumping economy and lower sales projections. Also, as soon as the 2010 models come in, they are encouraged to sell the 2009 stock, so I don't see why there wouldn't be discounts unless demand surpasses supply. Also, if by september, should gas prices rise back to the $4+ range, the V6 will be in even less demand, all the more reason why they would lower prices on a 2009 AC.

and not quite sure on how the cvt works, so i'm going to assume you are correct since you have read that many articles on it.

[Hussain]

1. there arnt tons of Altima coupes but there not what i'd call a "limited production car"

2.Nissan has actually been known to have crazy discounts when the next years model starts to come out.... when i got my A/C in 2007 my mom picked up a 2007 maxima with a $5,000 cash back....

3. for the most part yes you are correct but i wouldn't call 2 pulleys moving back and forth gears..... and for the most part people say it doesnt shift gears cuz the RPMs never shift.... if you leave it in "D" and floor the gas the RPMs will go to redline and stay at redline till you hit the limiter at 142 or 147 MPH. it will stay at redline without ever droping till you let off the gas.

are you more of a stick shift guy that's settling for CVT? if so, DONT DO IT!!!! if you want a automatic then yes go for CVT but if you like a stick, go with stick.... CVT doesnt do too well when you start moding the car and racing it and pretty much all the 3.5se owners that settled for CVT regret it.

[marlin29311]

How old are you? That might have to do with 99% of your issues right now...

The coupe is "limited" in the sense that not as many are being made as the regular altima?....dunno, but it's not like there are only a couple hundred floating around...

The CVT don't change gears, hence why it's called "continuously variable." The metal belt system changes sizes - there is no physical swapping of gears, just an endless changing environment.

[Marisha]

Definitely sounds like dealer BS. Go to a different one.

[RobPaulson]

there are so many red flags there ... i bought from a dealership like this, where i knew more about the car than the dealer, it was the ABSOLUTE WORST purchase experience EVER.

Quote »Now he got all mad and everything and asked me if accord is so good why don't I just get an accord!? So I told him it's all about quality, price and personal preference.[/quote]wow. just wow. I would have turned around and walked out without a single word after he said this. really? you want me to leave? REALLY!? YOUR A EFFN SALESMAN AND YOU TOLD ME TO GO TO A COMPETITOR!? asdfjkahfjkadhsf RETARD!

wheew anyway, my advice man, go to a different dealer, dont EVER go back to this one. its worth the ride to buy the car from a competent salesman who can actually take care of your needs.

[mcheddadi]

1)well limited depends on the model combo I guess...Nissan says about 36,000 Altima coupes will hit the road, but less than 1,000 SE V6s will come equipped with a manual transmission.

2) you can bet on it. the patient man always get's what he wants3) yep you are right 100%

[pkrutop]

If you don't mind driving across the Port Mann, go to Jonker Nissan & Jonker Honda in Langley. They are side-by-side so you can test both the Altima and Accord.

I went to tons of dealerships while I was looking for a car and Jonker had the best customer service by far.

Find a salesman named Travis at Nissan, he is by far the most knowledgeable salesman I have talked to.

Travis can sell you either the Altima or Accord so he'll give you an honest comparison (I was in the same boat as you)

They always have test vehicles to drive. When the altima coupe was first released, the owner bought one for his wife and she always left it at the dealership so there was always one at the dealership to test.

Tell Travis that Phil Krutop sent you and he'll treat you really good. He's the kind of guy that wants to help customers, not just make as much cash as possible.

Hopefully I don't sound like too much of a fan boy haha. Just sharing my experience and trying to help!

[Northernstar]

What dealership did you go to? I bought mine at Morrey (close to lougheed mall) and they were pretty good with it. The dealer is pretty close to the highway too so when I test drove it I got to stretch its legs (2.5 only but still).

cus I am in edmonton right now so I went to Mills Nissan but definitly checking out Morrey when I get back^^btw, I live in Surrey~

1. there arnt tons of Altima coupes but there not what i'd call a "limited production car"

2.Nissan has actually been known to have crazy discounts when the next years model starts to come out.... when i got my A/C in 2007 my mom picked up a 2007 maxima with a $5,000 cash back....

3. for the most part yes you are correct but i wouldn't call 2 pulleys moving back and forth gears..... and for the most part people say it doesnt shift gears cuz the RPMs never shift.... if you leave it in "D" and floor the gas the RPMs will go to redline and stay at redline till you hit the limiter at 142 or 147 MPH. it will stay at redline without ever droping till you let off the gas.

are you more of a stick shift guy that's settling for CVT? if so, DONT DO IT!!!! if you want a automatic then yes go for CVT but if you like a stick, go with stick.... CVT doesnt do too well when you start moding the car and racing it and pretty much all the 3.5se owners that settled for CVT regret it.

yeah~that's what I have heard as well...that's why I want to wait until the end of the year.wow, really? How come CVT doesn't do well when I start moding??

How old are you? That might have to do with 99% of your issues right now...

It DEFINITELY has something to do with my age. I am 24. I even met a dealer once where he told me to come back when I have enough money!!

[Northernstar]

there are so many red flags there ... i bought from a dealership like this, where i knew more about the car than the dealer, it was the ABSOLUTE WORST purchase experience EVER.

wow. just wow. I would have turned around and walked out without a single word after he said this. really? you want me to leave? REALLY!? YOUR A EFFN SALESMAN AND YOU TOLD ME TO GO TO A COMPETITOR!? asdfjkahfjkadhsf RETARD!

wheew anyway, my advice man, go to a different dealer, dont EVER go back to this one. its worth the ride to buy the car from a competent salesman who can actually take care of your needs.

yeah man.....that guy really doesn't know how to do business. Man, do i want to slap him in the face . Anyways, the other guy I met in the same dealership was WAY nicer than this retard.I am not trying to be racist or anything but every Indo-Canadian(or people from middle east) salesperson I met were all like this

1)well limited depends on the model combo I guess...Nissan says about 36,000 Altima coupes will hit the road, but less than 1,000 SE V6s will come equipped with a manual transmission.

2) you can bet on it. the patient man always get's what he wants3) yep you are right 100%

only 1000 or so V6s!? Wow, that's so few...... Is there any particular reason why they only make so few V6s??

If you don't mind driving across the Port Mann, go to Jonker Nissan & Jonker Honda in Langley. They are side-by-side so you can test both the Altima and Accord.

I went to tons of dealerships while I was looking for a car and Jonker had the best customer service by far.

Find a salesman named Travis at Nissan, he is by far the most knowledgeable salesman I have talked to.

Travis can sell you either the Altima or Accord so he'll give you an honest comparison (I was in the same boat as you)

They always have test vehicles to drive. When the altima coupe was first released, the owner bought one for his wife and she always left it at the dealership so there was always one at the dealership to test.

Tell Travis that Phil Krutop sent you and he'll treat you really good. He's the kind of guy that wants to help customers, not just make as much cash as possible.

Hopefully I don't sound like too much of a fan boy haha. Just sharing my experience and trying to help!

Thnx a lot for the tips man, I will talk to Travis when I get back from Edmonton. But may I ask, what made you buy the altima instead of the accord?

I would never leave my car with the dealer for customers to test drive. lol, not when people want to "see how powerful the engine is" and floor it all the way down

[phobs]

1)well limited depends on the model combo I guess...Nissan says about 36,000 Altima coupes will hit the road, but less than 1,000 SE V6s will come equipped with a manual transmission.

Where'd you get those numbers, I would like to see some other models too.

[Colton92]

yeah man.....that guy really doesn't know how to do business. Man, do i want to slap him in the face . Anyways, the other guy I met in the same dealership was WAY nicer than this retard.I am not trying to be racist or anything but every Indo-Canadian(or people from middle east) salesperson I met were all like this

only 1000 or so V6s!? Wow, that's so few...... Is there any particular reason why they only make so few V6s??

Thnx a lot for the tips man, I will talk to Travis when I get back from Edmonton. But may I ask, what made you buy the altima instead of the accord?

I would never leave my car with the dealer for customers to test drive. lol, not when people want to "see how powerful the engine is" and floor it all the way down

I'm preety sure he is saying that there is only 1,000 Manual v6s

[CanadianCoupe]

yeah man.....that guy really doesn't know how to do business. Man, do i want to slap him in the face . Anyways, the other guy I met in the same dealership was WAY nicer than this retard.

First off I'm a car salesman and that guy is a d!ck, he probably doesnt sell too many cars.

only 1000 or so V6s!? Wow, that's so few...... Is there any particular reason why they only make so few V6s??

In Canada I bet you they make about 1000 V6's, there would be more 2.5's and there are not too many in Canada. More Canadians buy 4 bangers, probably cause of gas

But may I ask, what made you buy the altima instead of the accord?

I am sure lots of people on these forums contemplated this, but are all happy with the choice. The altima IMO is a nicer looking car inside and out, has more technology features, and has more stock HP

When your ready to buy the altima, go back to that dealership and ask for the sales manager tell him you wanted to buy a car from his dealership but the salesman made it difficult. Tell him you want to buy it but want to deal with him, then you will get a good price!

[pkrutop]

Thnx a lot for the tips man, I will talk to Travis when I get back from Edmonton. But may I ask, what made you buy the altima instead of the accord?

I'll probably get flamed for this but whatever!

The Accord is a good car. Honda makes solid, reliable cars, period.

Most people hate Hondas since they are associated with the ricer image, but if you're looking for a good daily driver that will last forever, Hondas are a great choice.

I chose the Altima because I liked the exterior styling quite a bit more.

The Accord has this massive knob for the radio and it is the ugliest thing they could have put in the car.

I also wanted a car that I could customize in a classy way; it would be harder to do so with the Accord.

Basically, I chose the car for the styling and future customization. Not to mention that the Accord wasn't out until after I put a deposit on my Altima.

Obviously everyone wants you to get an Altima, but just go to Jonker, test both, and then take a few days and pick which one you prefer!! Hope that helps dude!

And FYI, I was 18 when I went to put the deposit on the car and Travis was the only salesman i encountered that didn't treat me like a broke little kid. Unreal service

[mcheddadi]

In Canada I bet you they make about 1000 V6's, there would be more 2.5's and there are not too many in Canada. More Canadians buy 4 bangers, probably cause of gas

...IN USA, and the point was not about V6 but MANUAL equipped V6.

those words are straight from Nissan :p

[Northernstar]

When your ready to buy the altima, go back to that dealership and ask for the sales manager tell him you wanted to buy a car from his dealership but the salesman made it difficult. Tell him you want to buy it but want to deal with him, then you will get a good price!

Wow, does it really work?? Never thought about doing it this any, lol.

I'll probably get flamed for this but whatever!

The Accord is a good car. Honda makes solid, reliable cars, period.

Most people hate Hondas since they are associated with the ricer image, but if you're looking for a good daily driver that will last forever, Hondas are a great choice.

I chose the Altima because I liked the exterior styling quite a bit more.

The Accord has this massive knob for the radio and it is the ugliest thing they could have put in the car.

I also wanted a car that I could customize in a classy way; it would be harder to do so with the Accord.

Basically, I chose the car for the styling and future customization. Not to mention that the Accord wasn't out until after I put a deposit on my Altima.

Obviously everyone wants you to get an Altima, but just go to Jonker, test both, and then take a few days and pick which one you prefer!! Hope that helps dude!

And FYI, I was 18 when I went to put the deposit on the car and Travis was the only salesman i encountered that didn't treat me like a broke little kid. Unreal service

I like altima a bit more than the accord. But the thing that holds me back from making my decision is that the rear seats and trunk area are pretty small compared to accord. Plus I dont quite like the steering wheel design^^"

[Northernstar]

...IN USA, and the point was not about V6 but MANUAL equipped V6.

those words are straight from Nissan :p

well, right now I am leaning more towards CVT since my mom can't drive a stick

[08Coupe]

IMO the Altima and Accord Coupe are so close in quality and power, it's really what car you think looks better.....I made my choice

[RobPaulson]

just my opinion, obviously lol, but ya ... when it came down to AC vs Accord, accord was not even an option to compare to, there was no way in hell i was buying a honda. and thats just my own close-minded ignorant stubborn opinion, based on image and brand alone, i will NEVER. EVER. own a honda.

my next car will be a subaru or BMW though ... 6 more years with my AC though, going to enjoy every minute of my VQ with a 6MT