Mercury Maruader vs Infiniti Q/M45

[Mayhem_J30]

I found some data from autoweek. If anyone has better/more info on the Q45 and M45 like 1/4 mile and more realistic 0-x times let me know.I don't see what the big stink is about this Maruader. Looks like the same old grandma's car and it's still slow! The M45 is the best competition for it as far as money goes..(still cost more though) but it absolutely stomps it. Why are they marketing this like some crazed muscle car when it's not?

2003 Mercury Marauder$34,495Curb Weight: 4195 lbsSTANDING-START ACCELERATION0-30 mph: 3.15 sec0-40 mph: 4.53 sec0-50 mph: 5.96 sec0-60 mph: 8.01 sec0-100 km/h (62.1 mph): 8.43 sec0-quarter-mile: 91.1 mph, 15.99 secROLLING ACCELERATION20-40 mph (first gear): 2.7 sec40-60 mph (second gear): 4.6 sec60-80 mph (second gear): 5.1 secBRAKING80 mph-0: 243 ft60 mph-0: 137 ft30 mph-0: 34 ftENGINEFront-longitudinal 4.6-liter/280.9-cid V8Horsepower: 302 @ 5750 rpmTorque (lb-ft): 318 @ 4300 rpmCompression ratio: 10.1:1Valvetrain: dohc Fuel delivery: Electronic sequential multipoint fuel injectionFUEL MILEAGEEPA combined: 19.85 mpgAW overall: 17.93 mpgHANDLING490-foot slalom: 41.0 mphLateral acceleration(200-foot skidpad): 0.81 g

2002 Q45Price as tested (base): $59,345 ($50,500) Engine: 4.5-liter V8, 340 hp @ 6400 rpm, 333 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm Driveline: Rear-wheel drive, five-speed automatic Suspension: Four-wheel independent, front struts, rear multilink, coil springs Brakes: Four-wheel vented discs, ABS and electronic distribution Weight (lbs): 3801 EPA combined mpg: 21 0-60 mph (mfr. estimate): 5.9 seconds

2003 M45BASE PRICE: $42,845 POWERTRAIN: 4.5-liter, 340-hp, 333-lb-ft V8; rwd, five-speed automatic CURB WEIGHT: 3851 pounds 0 TO 60 MPH: 6.4 seconds (est.) mpg 23/17 h/c

[Sopdadope]

With 2 g's worth of engine upgrades, it can be pretty quick. A 4.6L modular can make almost 340 lb/ft. of torque and 320 horses N/A. Add in a vortech blower and it's a fire-breathing four-door.

[Mayhem_J30]

With 2 g's worth of engine upgrades, it can be pretty quick. A 4.6L modular can make almost 340 lb/ft. of torque and 320 horses N/A. Add in a vortech blower and it's a fire-breathing four-door.

yeah yeah, any car can be faster with this and that but it wouldn't be under warranty. modding isn't the point here though. the problem i have is mercury's marketing with this thing. Everytime i visit a website there's a marauder doing a burn out on my screen...whoopdee do. I'd rather see fred's Q doing that then that ugly thing. the #'s just don't add up to what they are trying to pretend it is.

[sultan]

if i wanted a powerful domestic sedan i would get a 94-96 impala ss, i already have the same size tires they do, on the rear at least. marauder looks kinda crappy, if they did the same to a lincoln town car i would buy it.

[Repo Man]

marauder looks kinda crappy

Yeah, and it's a Ford too.

[PalmerWMD]

it's pretty slow for as what it's marketed.a 11 year old Q will out run it 0-60.0-100, 0-150 1/4 miles (both in et and ts).

And if I modded my Q with the moeny I would have spent on a Marauder...

Fred...

[fxjackso]

For those with 50K to spend on a big four door, with a warranty, that will leave it all behind....

http://www.kennybrown.com/MarauderSinto.htm

Yeah, I know, it lacks sophistication.

[sultan]

whenever i hear kenny brown i think of the ford windstar he supercharged a while back.

[Repo Man]

It's got 450hp, but it'll be lucky to run better than mid-13's. I'd bet money on it.

You want a car? Talk to Lingenfelter Performance Engineering. Both of these shops are here in Indiana. Brown is in Indy and LPE is in Decatur.

[Sopdadope]

15.99? Hmm...kinda suspect. Months ago when it first came out, I saw a guy at the boulevard and asked him about the Marauder. Had a nice chat, when he left he peeled out. That thing has to be quicker than a high 15-sec car. It's at least as fast as my Q is, probably faster down-low, top-end's a different story. This thing has got to be a low 15-sec car.

An ugly car? That's subjective, I think it looks badass. Those rims gotta go though.

[Mayhem_J30]

it weighs 400 lbs more then the Q and has 40 less HP.

[theTony]

Yeah, and it's a Ford too.

Not my cup-o-tea.

[EWT]

With 2 g's worth of engine upgrades, it can be pretty quick. A 4.6L modular can make almost 340 lb/ft. of torque and 320 horses N/A. Add in a vortech blower and it's a fire-breathing four-door.

Until it blows up at least. Ford 4.6L modular motors, the current 2V ones in particular, are not very strong.

[Sopdadope]

Until it blows up at least. Ford 4.6L modular motors, the current 2V ones in particular, are not very strong.

My ex has a Mustang, in fact it has the weak modular 4.6 2valve motor you speak of. She's had a Paxton Novi blower with 7PSI pulley for nearly three years, doesn't even have an aftercooler. Nearly as many miles as I have on my Q and that machine has been used and abused. That speaks volumes for the durability of that motor if taken care of properly with regular total tune-up intervals.

Different strokes for different folks I guess..

[fxjackso]

Motorweek (PBS) tested Brown's Ford Crown Vic Panther, which he says has 350 horsepower. Not sure what rear end.

0-60 5.2 sec., 1/4 mile 13.8 at 102.

But Lingenfelter's Impalas, and Mitchell's also (Supernatural) are faster. Because the engines are bigger. A lot bigger. And there is no substitute for cubic inches (or cc's in our case!). Two years ago I went to a Corvette club autocross. There was a Supernatural Impala entered, which the owner said had the 450 hp option. It was unbelievably fast. Quite amusing to see such a huge car weaving around the pylons. Flat, with oversteer courtesy of the right foot, on demand.

[EWT]

My ex has a Mustang, in fact it has the weak modular 4.6 2valve motor you speak of. She's had a Paxton Novi blower with 7PSI pulley for nearly three years, doesn't even have an aftercooler. Nearly as many miles as I have on my Q and that machine has been used and abused. That speaks volumes for the durability of that motor if taken care of properly with regular total tune-up intervals.

Different strokes for different folks I guess..

I've seen/heard of quite a few of them blowing up. Many of them saw track time though, which is a much more severe test than blasting around on the street. The pre-00 (I think) 2V motors are stronger than the current ones if that's what she has. The limit on the rods of the current one is supposed to be ~300 rwhp, which isn't very impressive for 281 cid IMO.

[Mayhem_J30]

not to be ford bashing, but i read where ford is having problems with the SHO motors now to. Ford seems to be having bad luck the past few years.

[Sopdadope]

They seem to be having major issues with the newer engines. Even the '03 Cobra has had problems.

[Domeskilla]

What problems does the 03 Cobra have.. engine wise? All i have seen is the recent front end shaking stuff. The stock Cobra 6 speed lays down a respectable 12.2 in the quarter. I seen a stock one do it this weekend at the track. His average was around 12.3 12.4 best of 12.2 ..

[CyberCJ30]

15.99? Yea that's slower than my J is... and if 210 hp beats a German car with over 300 hp its time to chop it.