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Hi guysI wanna know if the MS is capable of running the fuel and the ignition on CA18DET. I don`t want to put a piggy-back cause it is kinda restrictful and the MS has many more functions on a very temptating price. Here in Bulgaria is a man who sells already built new MegaSquirts for 200$ each including the MAP sensor and some wiring (v2.2 board and MS1 cpu). If someone has a MS on his CA it would be very helpful to give me some info or links. Thanks


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Capable? Yes. Best idea? Not really. One of the biggest faults with the MS is that for the MAP, you have to run a vac line into the ECU. The MAP sensor is on board. It is also not that powerful. Anyone remember if it can fire sequential? IIRC, it can't. There are better options.

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What`s then better than the MS for the same amount of money?

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rico05 wrote:Biki ROM:http://www.bikirom.com/
And what`s better in this case?

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rico05
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What are you trying to do with your CA? Give us a roadmap (power, torque, budget, use of car).

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rico05 wrote:Biki ROM:http://www.bikirom.com/
The biki rom does not DIRECTLY support the ca18det ECU..

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actually its a pretty good option you can get one in and running for around 5-600$, im preping my car next week for one. we just installed two of them into our customers neons this week, one was up and running in less then 2 days. we are doing two more neons here this winter. you can make it to run a external map sensor, which is what i plan on doing for my CA18det. im still gathering up all the parts to get the crank trigger setup and figured out, im going to either use ford ingnition system or a neon ignition system.


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The newest version of MS is quite capable. Sequential ignition is in the process of being coded for the latest setup. You need to ask yourself if your abilities are sufficient to handle the duties any standalone requires, budget or elaborate. Not meant as an insult or a putdown, I know not your situation; I see no reason why it would not work. http://www.megasquirt.info/ms2/

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rico05 wrote:What are you trying to do with your CA? Give us a roadmap (power, torque, budget, use of car).
I wanna make about 300-350 hp. The budget is max $2k. I have a workshop for metal issues and i can make the exhaust and the manifold for no money at all ... its gonna be a drift car and also daily driver. I found 550cc injectors for 100$ each. Big new FMIC for 150$ (there is a company that make all kinds of custom radiators from copper at a bargain) and much more ...

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when you say 550cc injectors for a $100 each I assume you mean 100 for a set of four and not 100 for each one right?

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Rookieca18det wrote:when you say 550cc injectors for a $100 each I assume you mean 100 for a set of four and not 100 for each one right?
For a set. My mistake.

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Well put. Guess I should have looked back at MS before posting, LOL

Old one was not anything special. New one looks good.

Not_a_sr: Are you speaking of the MS or the Biki that you have installed?

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rico05 wrote:One of the biggest faults with the MS is that for the MAP, you have to run a vac line into the ECU. The MAP sensor is on board. It is also not that powerful.
Good lord.

You like reading what you type? That is the biggest BS.

If it was about SDS, I am sure people was jock this thread like no other.

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im going megasquirt, im tired of messing with nissan stock electronics. my chipped computer somthing went heywire and had me running 15to1 AFRs on a stock programed chip and the maf circuit was fried. put in a stock ECu till i can get the MS built and wired up. i had the chance to see a sds in action its on a VW in our shop now, i just dont like the thing at all. maybe because i dont know how to use it and therfore im biased.

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Coldspawn wrote:
Good lord.

You like reading what you type? That is the biggest BS.

If it was about SDS, I am sure people was jock this thread like no other.
Like always, you seem to think you know more than you do. The MS 1.0 needed a vac line run into the ECU as the MAP was onboard. The new one does not need that. MS is old news, and for those of us that have been looking into this stuff for more than a few weeks, we may have longer memories.

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rico05 wrote:Like always, you seem to think you know more than you do
Ahh, I remember you, How is the SAFC coming along?
rico05 wrote:The MS 1.0 needed a vac line run into the ECU as the MAP was onboard.
You know what? It is soldered to the PCB, but that does not mean you have to. I have been tuning them for sometime now. But you knew that, right?
rico05 wrote:MS is old news, and for those of us that have been looking into this stuff for more than a few weeks, we may have longer memories.
I did not quote you because of the running the load to the PCB, it is because of the fact you are soo blind to know the difference.
Not_a_sr wrote:i had the chance to see a sds in action its on a VW in our shop now, i just dont like the thing at all. maybe because i dont know how to use it and therfore im biased.
I do not like SDS because of the fact of no laptop limits your data you can get in a certain time frame. I will not tune them for a customer. Besides that, it is a great system.

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i don't know much about the MS product itself but i do know a lot about electronics and it would be rather easy to relocate the MAP sensor anywhere you want.


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