megan suspension street series VS. track sereis?

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ok so i have TEIN suspension on my S14 but it is the BASIC tein coilover kit. i am looking into buying megan suspension i heard that the track series at its softest adjustment is still to stiff for everday us... i want to know if that is true. i want to buy the track series but i wont if it is too stiff to use in my daily life. if not i will get the street series and just adjust it to a stiffer setting. but i want the track suspension.....

street series -> <-track series ORstreet series -> <- track series

Oh and by the way i am setting up my S14 for autocross use. thanks in advance.


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??? no help? come guys.

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Well, this is the motor sport section of the boards. I would think you're more likely to see people push for the track series.

Both are good, but i think if you get the street series... you will wish you had the tracks as soon as you're on the track.

Personally, I would go for the stiffer springs. That however is also influenced by the fact that i don't NEED to drive my DD every day. I don't have a commute, and the most driving it does is to and from events and to and from school once every couple of months.

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yeah i drive a lot. like atleast 45 mile a day.....

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Aye, I know that world too. I used to do arround that figure as well.

I am tempted to say go with the streets, but you already have coil overs now... It would seem to me that you'd want to go stiffer to make the upgrade as worth while as possible. But again, its your car, your comfort, and your call.

* no could you do me a favor and bump my thread a bit further down in the section about strut / spring combos? Its been two days at this point. - k thanks

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ok i will check it out! hey but to be honest that doesnt answer my question... my question was is the track series too stiff for everyday us?

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The question is subjective, and bassed on your own tolerances, not mine. It would be hard to answer the question.

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I just put on 8k and 6k Ksports, and I have say that it's all about how hardcore you are. I think 8 and 6 on a daily driver isn't a big deal, but some people on here act like anything stiffer than Eibachs makes thier kidney's hurt.

Whoa, I just looked at Megan's site and saw thier Track Series are 12k and 10k. I thought they were only 10 and 8. 12and10 is going to be super ruff, but I don't think you'll have to worry about body roll.

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is that too stiff for street us? 12k front and 10k rear?? i need to know it is like a 10 dollar difference from the streetseries and the track series. and i want the track but if it is going to be to stiff i will just get the street! does anyone here have the track series? please let me know.

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For me Autocross = 1 or 2 races per month. I would not buy the Track for myself, I think it is too much of a compromise in driveability for the other 28 or so days of the month. Good Luck.

Kenny

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If this is for your DD/weekend warrior , I would do street. The street is already stiffer than the tiens you have. And if you have to drive 45 miles a day, you're gonna hate every minute of it.

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^^^^^

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I have my vert setup very weird .

I opted for the track series Megan coilovers because the quality seems higher. However, I daily my car also and had some 8/6 Swift springs that I was going to use w/ my KTS, but decided to do something different.

So basically, I have the track series coilovers w/ custom 8/6 springs & thrust sheets (you can read up about swift springs on their site).

Basically, for street I have it set at a soft setting and it's MUCH softer than my KTS and a few other cars w/ coilovers I've sat in. However, still dampens very quickly.

For autox I only set it up to medium since the surface of the lot we use is uneven - a small amount of body roll, but I haven't added back my swaybars, etc. Still dialing in my setup.

If you are ever in the area, you can hit me up to see how they feel. There's also autox in a few weeks that I should be @ in Fontana if you'd like to see how it handles.

QV

p.s. we sell Megan coilovers & Swift springs also

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I'm putting the track series(Megan)on my S13 and shes going the be low and tight so I know it will ride a little stiff but hey thats why we built'em the way we do. Low and Fast.

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How bad are the roads in your daily drives? i'd put that into factor. From what I've heard, the TS compared to the SS is stiff... Likethey said, it depends on tolerance.... I'd go with the TS... I'm deciding on suspension right now too... I'm pushing toward Megans but i really want STANCe... I've got some reviews on KSports taht they are decent.... But anyways.... If you plan on doing some weekend drifting/auto-x/etc on a consistant basis... I'd stick w/ the stiff suspension. And i mean, comparing the SS which is 8k/6k compared to 12k/8k... that's a jump on stiffness... I know my friend runs te SS and he likes it... But he lives in Vegas and the roads there are pretty decent since the last time I drove aroudn there (I use to live there)... but yeah... G'luck on the descision... peace!!!!

Get Stance.... Its around $1,200.00.... Spend the extra $300.00 and get 2 sets of spring rates.... 8k/6k (Front/Rear) and 9k/7k (Front/Rear). From the reviews, They rank pretty good compared to theo ther suspensions out there... =)

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First of all, I love ff7! Secondly, if your primary goal is autocross, get the street, don't get hung up on the fact that the tracks are labeled as "track" series. I'm gonna go ahead and guess that 8/6 will be better than 12/10 on the autocross courses that you'll run into. Besides, if you're using street tires, you don't need anyhting more than 8/6. The whole stiffer is better thing or stiffer is for track thing is such a marketing gimmick, it kills me to see 240s roll up on all seasons and "stiff as hell" JDM tight track suspensions.

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i just got my megan streets on my s13... i love em! i mean its definately a lot stiffer than im used to, but the way it handles is amazing.

i do however find it to be not so passenger friendly, i myself am very tolerant, but if you get some wussy passenger you might hear some complaints.. so i can only imagine that the tracks would be even worse. Basically if its ur DD go with street

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i have the streets i love them handles great i like the bumpy harsh rides it doesnt affect me only passengers like my girl and my whoosy friends complain i dd my car and starting to auto x it and so far i have no complaints with them

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I am planing on gettign the street series as soon as i am done with everything else.

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idahotuner wrote:I am planing on gettign the street series as soon as i am done with everything else.
..... Bumping 4 month old posts, eh?

While we're at it:

"Stiff and harsh" = slow. Shock that you feel in the chassis is basically equivalent to time your tires aren't making contact with the road = lack of grip. Good dampers with stiff springs will feel stiff, but they won't necessarily be harsh. But then, that's why cheap "coilovers" cost less than even mediocre shock/spring combos. They're cheap for a reason.

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Megan tracks are 12kg/mm front and 10kg/mm rear , WAY to stiff for anything but a dedicated race car. I know this guy who has them on his 92 s13 coupe , and they are soooooooooooooooooooo overly stiff its just ridiculus.

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Slappy wrote:Megan tracks are 12kg/mm front and 10kg/mm rear , WAY to stiff for anything but a dedicated race car. I know this guy who has them on his 92 s13 coupe , and they are soooooooooooooooooooo overly stiff its just ridiculus.
That's not necessarily true. I'm running ~11kg/mm up front on my S14, and will probably move up to ~13kg (650#) once I get Koni 8611's in the rear. I know of an Evo guy that drove cross country with 800# springs on the front of his car (same MacP style front suspension, and similar car weight), and his car is probably more comfortable than mine thanks to his Ohlins dampers.

Like I said in my previous post: you can't really buy coilovers that cost less than a quality shock/ spring combo (Koni Yellow/ Ground-Control) and expect it to be better.

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Hmm , i see. I know about how good a quality spring/shock combo can be , to many people knock it.

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Slappy wrote:Hmm , i see. I know about how good a quality spring/shock combo can be , to many people knock it.
I don't understand what it is you are trying to say???

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cracker wrote:
I don't understand what it is you are trying to say???
Oh , sorry. What i was saying was there is nothing at all wrong with a quality spring/shock combo. But there is alot of people out there that dont know this and think coilovers are the best way to go all the time.

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I got yah'.

I agree 100%

proper valving>JDM'ness

Koni Yellows(Re-valved and converted to D/A) + G/C sleeves is going to be my next set-up

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cracker wrote:I got yah'.

I agree 100%

proper valving>JDM'ness

Koni Yellows(Re-valved and converted to D/A) + G/C sleeves is going to be my next set-up
For the Miata, I think http://www.fatcatmotorsports.com/index.htm was working on doing adjustable Bilsteins. They'd probably work a bit better than Koni Yellows, unless you went with something like a Koni 3011 setup or similar. The monotubes seem to work a bit better on more surfaces, especially ones with lots of undulations.

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they were a gift, But three of them need to be rebuilt. I also have a set of 94 or 99 complete shock/spring assemblies, with the taller top hat. I am going to try and get them rebiult at nationals next year. The only other thing I need is to get two springs. I just have to figure out how Eibach codes their springs. There are three diffrent number on the springs I have.

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cracker wrote:I got yah'.Koni Yellows(Re-valved and converted to D/A) + G/C sleeves is going to be my next set-up
Nice! The ONLY reason i have coilovers is because of the quality, price and non-adjustabilty of the Tanabe's i bought. I use my car for auto x , drift and believe it or not its my DD(one day i will roadrace) , and it being my DD , i didnt want/need 32 way adjustable dampers. Thats just overkill IMO. I have the Sustec SO-C Type II , wich are right height adjustable only , wich is perfect because they come with nice preset #'s for my needs. Here are my curent settings...

front height - 641mm = 25.2362" , rear height - 637mm = 25.0787"

front seat - 46mm = 1.811" , rear seat - 44mm = 1.7323"

Spring Rate Front 8kg/mm

Spring Rate Rear 6kg/mm

So many people get on me because my 240 looks high for having coilovers , but i didnt buy my coilovers so i can have a freakin lowrider with control arms pointing skyward.

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Slappy wrote:So many people get on me because my 240 looks high for having coilovers , but i didnt buy my coilovers so i can have a freakin lowrider with control arms pointing skyward.


I hear yah.


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