McCains Accidents

[telcoman]

He had a few while in the Navy.

I'd like to know more about them.

We certainly do not need an accident prone president.

http://www.editorandpublisher....44601

http://www.vietnamveteransagai...u.htm

Telcoman

[Cold_Zero]

You forgot about the part where John McCain comes home after being shot down and a POW to testify in front of Congress that the American GI's are a bunch of sadistic baby killers.

[rn79870]

Since McCain's history as a war hero for the United States has been brought up a zillion times, I've done a lot of searching into that issue. I'm not going to discredit him for alleged anti-US comments he made in captivity as I believe he was, or would have been tortured otherwise. In the book Scars and Stripes many captured servicemen describe the treatment they received. I don't know if I would have been able to take it or not. However, many didn't roll on their country, yet others had no choice.

I do think McCain got a pass on many things. Like poor performance at the academy as well as poor performance in pilot training. however, at least 4 of the aircraft he lost could rightly be called accidents.

However, I do believe he received favorable treatment due to his fathers and grandfathers positionin the Navy. Look at this blurb I found

"McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat," explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs -- the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. "Since McCain got 28 medals," Bell continues, "that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat.

Maybe we should look at the issue of whether or not he is a "combat" hero.

[rn79870]

You forgot about the part where John McCain comes home after being shot down and a POW to testify in front of Congress that the American GI's are a bunch of sadistic baby killers.

Are you referring to his comments on the My Lai massacre???

[Cold_Zero]

Yes, please, please, please attack McCain's war record. I want to see where this one ends up.bud

[Encryptshun]

And just what does ANY of this have to do with his ability or inability to lead our country? I firmly believe that, should our security measures totally and completely fail for some force majeur reason, and should a President McCain fall into the hands of a militant enemy, that whether he folds under torture at age 72 is a completel non-issue. We have a line of succession that kinda is set up for this sort of thing. Unless Congress recently redefined the term "Presidential incapacitation."

How is McCain's combat record political?

[srellim234]

He's running on it.

[skylndrftr]

actually hes running on Obama's lack of it. Obama has the class to say that McCain's is offlimits and leave it that way. McCain wants his to be offlimits but chooses to attack Obama

[Cold_Zero]

Are you referring to his comments on the My Lai massacre???

Explain me this:My Lai occured March 16, 1968. John Kerry was on the USS Gridley DLG-21 circling the Golf of Tokin looking for pilots to rescue at that ponit. What the **** would he know about My Lai being on a Destroy in the Gulf of Tokin? Seeing that My Lai was a US Army incident and he was in the Navy.

But seriously, he did call all of the commanders in Vietnam 'war criminals.' He called my father in law and my dad war criminals and baby killers. **** John Kerry.

[rn79870]

Bud, I was just asking what you meant by...You forgot about the part where John McCain comes home after being shot down and a POW to testify in front of Congress that the American GI's are a bunch of sadistic baby killers.

That was either a facetious comment or a comment about something McCain had said. That's all I wanted to know.

[rn79870]

How is McCain's combat record political?

McCain and his staff have touted his war experience as necessary for the US in this day and age. If they claims that his combat experience is what sets him apart, do you feel it is unfair to examine that experience?

[Cold_Zero]

Sorry Bob, touchy subject.Yes I was being facetious, since Telcoman's links are attempting to 'Swift Boat' McCain. The only problem is that unlike Kerry, McCain didnt embellish his record, nor come home and testify to congress that the soldiers in Vietnam were 'baby killers.'Sorry about that.

[AZhitman]

I don't think this one even matters.

If you can't stick to the current issues, don't post.

God forbid someone should look into ALL of our backgrounds. I KNOW Bob's stolen some pens, and probably my stapler.

Jerk.

[rn79870]

Jerk.

::sigh::

[Encryptshun]

I got a ticket for running a red light in 1996, and another one for speeding in 2006. Yet I still believe good drivers are essential to the protection of our morning commutes and that I know how to drive well.

I am a national disgrace and an untrustworthy bastard?

[AZhitman]

::sigh::

WAS A JOKE. Readily apparent by the context of my post.

[Rev_D21]

He's running on it.

+1

-How many houses do you own? -Well you know I was a POW.

It's all fair game when it's under the spotlight. Hell there is going to be a movie about it tonight which leads me to believe it's more about McCain than country. He's just trying to make us feel bad. I don't hand out sympathy votes.

McCain reminds me of Walter from the Big Lebowski. The dude asks him "What does anything have to do with Vietnam?!?".

[ishkabibble]

He reminds me of Giuliani, except a tiny bit more civil.

noun + verb + POW

[rn79870]

I've reviewed the reason this thread was locked and I've unlocked it. Feel free to continue the discussion as adults here.