McCain's campaign has reaching a new low....

[AZhitman]

The only differences between the current parties and the third parties worthy of consideration are differences in policy, and only executable policy need be considered.

The solution is to drive the existing parties to the center and keep the extremists on either side from wielding too much influence.

Genius.

The current situation lends itself well to checks and balances.

I don't want Ol' Socialist Obama running things without a GOP Congress to keep a leash on his pie-in-the-sky phony idealism, and I don't want GWB pummelling the Left with evangelical restrictions and picking fights with countries better left to their own devices...

The reason a third party isn't in the cards right now? There's no REAL center. Division exists across the board, and even registered Independents (such as myself) lean FAR right on some issues and FAR left on others.

Since Steve pointed out that we didn't start out with the 2 current parties, I'd like to point out a little history - that this was NOT a "top-down" change.

Don't be misled, the changes occurred at the grassroots level, and if you're serious about supporting the advent of a third party in the US, that's where you'll throw your support. It WILL work its way upstream... But not by November.

Voting for Nader did NOT influence GWB's policies. So, NO, voting for a third party in November does NOT accomplish driving the existing ones towards the center.

[srellim234]

I know what you mean by right and left. In my opinion, the majority of Americans tend to want a government that leans a little (or a lot) to the conservative side fiscally and a little (or a lot) to the liberal side socially. Socially and fiscally responsible. We can't get that with either of the two existing major parties.

I also believe that the voters of this country would prefer a government that fosters a sense of cooperation along with the ability to compromise occasionally. You can't get that with the current "close minded" major parties right now, either. They're stuck in the "I'm a (insert party here) first, an American second" partisan mindset.

A third group, one which garners enough of the voters to drive the two major parties below the 50% line, will force that compromise and cooperation in order to get anything done.

[ishkabibble]

Voting for Nader did NOT influence GWB's policies. So, NO, voting for a third party in November does NOT accomplish driving the existing ones towards the center.

Why would voting for a liberal influence the presidency of a rather fascist neocon?

People supporting Nader most certainly did influence the campaign of John Kerry. So, YES...

[audtatious]

There is no such thing as a conservative anymore. Label them a neocon and you can simply take them to the ally and shoot them for pleasure

[srellim234]

There are still a lot of conservatives out there. The Republican Party leadership just no longer represents them. Some have gone to conservative third parties; some are still in the Republican Party hoping that it will come back.

[audtatious]

Still better than the socialistic policies of Obama

[rn79870]

Then vote, vote early and often.

[skylndrftr]

Thank you Mr. Tamminy.

Or better yet, get involved in your local political community and help get politicians to listen to people as opposed to corporate sponsored talking heads.

[telcoman]

Still better than the socialistic policies of Obama

At least Obama answers a question when asked at a debate.

McCain cannot be trusted.

"Mr. Warren, who has made millions of dollars on his books, asked Mr. Obama to define “rich.” In one of his lighter moments, Mr. Obama responded impishly, “Well, if you’ve got book sales of $25 million... .” Mr. Obama, too, has made millions from his books; Mr. Warren reached across the desk and gave Mr. Obama a high five. The Democrat then said that under his tax plans, all American families making less than $150,000 a year are considered middle class or poor and would receive a tax break.

Mr. McCain said that “rich” should mean people who are happy and avoided putting a precise price tag on the term, finally jokingly tossing out a figure of $5 million."

Our Social Security System needs additional funding. Our spending is out of control with our debt increasing daily causing a devalueation of the dollar. Rising commodity prices including the sharp rise in oil prices A useless war in Iraq, a mismanaged war in Afghanistan, needless American deaths and McCain cannot define who is rich in America.

BTW has anyone else noticed the bulge on the left side of McCains face?He doesn't look too healthy to me.I wonder if his face was growing instead of his nose when answering questions during last nights debate?

Telcoman

[OriginalWheelman]

At least Obama answers a question when asked at a debate.

At least McCain wants to debate Obama, not Obama's staff.

[rn79870]

“Last night, after all that, Senator McCain actually said he agreed that keeping our tires inflated was a good idea,” Obama said, to laughter from the crowd. “So in the coming days it’s going to be interesting to watch this debate between John McCain and John McCain.”

Obama realizes that McCain foll be cannon fodder in a debate. It isn't even fair to McCain to put him on the same stage with Barack.

[telcoman]

“Last night, after all that, Senator McCain actually said he agreed that keeping our tires inflated was a good idea,” Obama said, to laughter from the crowd. “So in the coming days it’s going to be interesting to watch this debate between John McCain and John McCain.”

Obama realizes that McCain foll be cannon fodder in a debate. It isn't even fair to McCain to put him on the same stage with Barack.

Lets hope McCain doesn't fall asleep.

[Soravia]

Obama defined Rich as $250K or more a year (family income)McCain put it at $5 million a year.

I'll go with McCain. I know small business owners don't have $5 million a year income.

[audtatious]

"So I think if you’re just talking about income, how about $5 million. But seriously, I don’t think you can — I don’t think, seriously that - the point is that I’m trying to make here seriously - and I’m sure that comment will be distorted, but the point is - the point is - the point is that we want to keep people’s taxes low and increase revenues. And my friend, it was not taxes that mattered in America in the last several years. It was spending. Spending got completely out of control. We spent money in a way that mortgaged our kids futures. My friends, we spent $3 million of your money to study the DNA of bears in Montana. Now I don’t know if that was a paternity issue or a criminal issue, but the point is — but the point is it was $3 million of your money. It was your money."

Obviously he was not being serious about the 5-million mark and it's being distorted just like he stated in the interview. I do agree with him on spending us into oblivion and hope that means he will work towards being fiscal.

[AZhitman]

BTW has anyone else noticed the bulge on the left side of McCains face?He doesn't look too healthy to me.I wonder if his face was growing instead of his nose when answering questions during last nights debate?

Yeah. It's called cancer.

Just added you to the short list of insensitive jackasses who would make light of a person afflicted with such a brutal disease.

[Soravia]

Cancer on face is better than cancer in the brain.

[Jager]

as one of the people on government health care and disability I am happy to see the system overhauled, It does not look at actual situations and tends to give people who are abusing the system a break, and those who aren't have too much red tape to get through so they can survive. not live, just survive.

While Sen obama has thoughts on the issue Ill be blunt and very honest.

I live on 637 bucks a month total. thats all I am allowed and My insurance costs cover a few grand a month in bills.

there are a few single moms down the road from me driving expensive *** SUVs, with 20 inch rims that stand in line with me monthly at the medicaid office when i have to visit, who keep having kids in order to afford a lavish lifestyle without ever working (VA/feds give about 1.5k per kid per month to moms who are single)

obama in the past has wanted to increase the handouts to the moms, and cut down the disability pay, and revamp social security, so people like me get less overall coverage so he could afford healthcare for more people. so id have less to live on per month and moms abusing the system get more... doesnt add up does it?

thats why i will NOT vote for obama, he has NO idea how to actually make a difference in my life, he will make it worse. while Mccain doesnt have a plan for social security, I know that my State will cover anything the feds wont in insurance, so as long as i receive disability pay from the feds ill be fine, Mccain has worked to keep that going over the years.

as a man said in line behind me one day, after an obama speech"Thanks obama, for your change ",and he rattled a few quarters he had.

[audtatious]

Perhaps restoring government funding for stem cell research might lead to a cure for a whole host of diseases including cancer?

Telcoman

Why? Has there been a breakthrough in fetal stem cell research that is notable or are they still finding out that they are not stable enough to matter?

[rn79870]

Here you go soriava, a picture is worth 1000 words.

[Soravia]

At least McCain hasn't been preached by President Bush for 20 years.That's McCain giving Bush a hug for 'I'll fund the troops and give them a surge to beat the insurgents.'

Obamites and their 'Fear Tactics.' First they scared the people away from Hillary with 'ZOMG! RACIST CRAZY WOMEN WILL MAKE YOU HAVE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE'.Now the McCain 'McBush will have you do nothing but drill oil and have NeoCons take over the country.' '100 years in Iraq!' They can't even use the term NeoCon properly. Americans have been in Japan and Germany since WWII, which kept China and Russia in check.So much for CHANGE. LoL

[rn79870]

[audtatious]

OMG....Obama is hugging a killer!!!!!!! NOEZZZZZ



Whadda guy

[rn79870]

Ya gotta admit, the pictures of McCain and Bush make you want to yell "get a room" but the pictures of Obama make you think "what a nice guy he is" for helping ^ Kennedy, who is suffering from brain cancer, walk.

[ishkabibble]

Why? Has there been a breakthrough in fetal stem cell research that is notable or are they still finding out that they are not stable enough to matter?

Because it is the most likely/quickest route to help devastating diseases like ALS?

[ishkabibble]

At least McCain hasn't been preached by President Bush for 20 years.

HUH?

That's McCain giving Bush a hug for 'I'll fund the troops and give them a surge to beat the insurgents.'

The insurgents are beat, and it was attributable to the surge? News to me.

Obamites and their 'Fear Tactics.' First they scared the people away from Hillary with 'ZOMG! RACIST CRAZY WOMEN WILL MAKE YOU HAVE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE'.

Strange statement, seeing how Obama also supports national health care. Someone said Hillary was racist?

They can't even use the term NeoCon properly.

Neither can you, apparently.

[Soravia]

Strange statement, seeing how Obama also supports national health care. Someone said Hillary was racist?

WHAM! BAM! That's the heart of the problem. Hillary DID not advocate Nationalized Health Care, that's Obamites lies spreading through low roads. Hillary made out for alternative government health insurance and mandated health insurance coverage to drive the cost down while maintaining quality. If she just said Mandate alone, everyone would be raped by insurance companies. If she just said government insurance, no one except poor people would volunteer and the thing would fail right away. By putting two together she would force the private companies to lower their prices, give money to ALL healthcare institutes, cap the cost to income so no one gets raped.but Obama made it in his speeches and ads so that Hillary's plan would make everyone buy insurance they can't afford.

Well what about his own plan? Obama will make EVERY kid insured. Who do you think will be paying for it?

As for the racist part, don't act like you don't know it. I saw all your Obamite posts and comments in CNN, MSNBC and blog-sphere. 'Racist *****' was the most frequently used term right after 'Shrill'

[skylndrftr]

like seriously dude?

Your bitching about paying health care for children?

We have the highest infant mortality rate of any developed nation. If your the concerned with saving yourself a penny, I hope some kid robs you for chemo money.

[rn79870]

We challenged you to show us where Obama lied and you couldn't. You really shouldn't be using terms you can't substantiate.

[ishkabibble]

Hillary DID not advocate Nationalized Health Care

National or Nationalized? You've now said both.

but Obama made it in his speeches and ads so that Hillary's plan would make everyone buy insurance they can't afford.

The "Government" health care plan is not cheap. I doubt a poor family could afford it if it were not heavily subsidized.

Obama will make EVERY kid insured. Who do you think will be paying for it?

I'm actually fine with insuring kids. It's the moral thing to do, IMO.

As for the racist part, don't act like you don't know it. I saw all your Obamite posts and comments in CNN, MSNBC and blog-sphere. 'Racist *****' was the most frequently used term right after 'Shrill'

"Your"? I'm not an Obamite. Jeez, you are freaking obsessed.

I really didn't see many claims that Hillary was racist. There might be some nutjobs out there saying that, but they don't represent the majority.

[Stev0n]

Actually, I would have rather seen Mitt than McCain (for good reasons, not a slam).

I agree on this. romney and especially huckabee were the two i would have liked to see make it to the end of the primaries.

I, a registered democrat, will DEFINITELY vote republican this year. McCain, altho not a big fan, IS the lesser of two evils in my opinion. Just as hilary was the lesser of two evils in the primary.

Now mccain's lack of media presence has been a positive factor for him in my opinion. the less i hear from him, the less i hear that i don't like. Whereas, it seems like obama does nothing but stick his foot is his mouth with the almost daily bull**** i hear him say.

I like neither of my options, but i am willing to bet that by the end of this obama will force me to have nothing but angst and loathing for him.

NObama in 08!

Obama's campaign - "hope"