Maxima.org: a little TOO overprotective?

[AZhitman]

Preach on, Brotha.

Glad you're here - You *get* it.

[internetautomart]

If anything, they've got it backward: pay to post, free to search makes much more sense.

I like that idea

something that I feel maxima.org has over Nicoclub is the layout.If I'm looking for information on my car and need to search or just post, i don't want information that isn't pertinent to my car.if I search or post about turbo (just a simple example) here I'll get answers from all the generations which doesn't help me much when a 4th gen and 5th gen have kits available. no such thing really exists for my car (3rd gen).I much prefer just being able to see stuff for my cars generation.it just simplifies me looking for things.

and as far as the spam reasoning goes. when that rule was enacted, I was seeing 2-3 posts a day in the 3rd gen forum that were fro viagra posted by users with 1 post registered that day. they enacted that rule and I haven't seen them since.

SMART noobs will get a hold of a member and ask them to post up. I've had that happen to me numerous times. I've got no problem doing it personally.Though I did register before the rule went into effect.

The moderators do appear to be a clique, though I do get along with them (at least the 3rd gen ones and an admin, and a super mod).

[jmaxima]

If their mods had to collectively agree to a ban, it would help. As it was a few years ago any moderator who liked one member (such as one who might have saved him/her a few dollars) more than another could ban at will. I was like, "I have documentation to support the fraud, of roughly $400!" Instead of banning him, they banned me for trying to alert other potential scam targets. The guy didn't even own a Maxima at the time. He only had one for about a year. Since the mods aren't expected to have ethics and morals themselves there is no way to trust anything you read on that forum. Take everything you read over there with grain of sea salt.

- James

[C-Kwik]

Very true to some extent. Like i mentioned before, seniority does play a very big role on that site, and yes sometimes it does get annoying (trust me, I just had an outburst with one of the .org's most prominent member about that) but isn't that the way it is everywhere? I mean, when you have a job, if you've been there for 5 years and there is a person that's been there for less than a year and is performing the same as you, you can pretty much guess who's gonna get the boot first. It's a cruel world and most people do not like how it works, but there's nothing we can do to fix it..

But I completely disagree on what you said about the members with low IQ or initiative. There are some of the smartest people I've ever talked to on that site, and it seems like there's always four or five of them in each topic (motor, suspension, etc.) that can help you with whatever you throw out there. There are a couple people I can think of that are what you said and all they do is flame people, but for the most part, what you said is untrue.

It is not that way everywhere nor should any environment encourage that. Respect is always earned, not deserved. And each person should be looking to earn respect with each individual each time they encounter them. It's easy for one to become complacent when they feel secure about their ranking. And honestly, Seniority means nothing.

10 years of experience is not the same as 1 year experience repeated 10 times.

[Beancooker]

something that I feel maxima.org has over Nicoclub is the layout.

The only difference I like in the .org's layout is the little dot that appears on a thread after you've posted in that thread. It makes it easier to remember the thread.

[WickedVQ]

They were a bunch of arrogant guys when I had my first Maxima a few years back, and they're still the same which is why I'm on this forum with my second Maxima.

Intelligent- sure. User friendly- absolutely not.

[maxhopper]

Welcome aboard Wicked.

[WickedVQ]

Thanks Max.

[jmaxima]

My experience was that most of the intelligent people quit reading and posting at least 3-5 years ago, except in extremely rare instances. But it's been at least 2-3 years since I've been over there. Likely not even the same mods now. It wasn't pay only at that time, but they had been pressuring members to give donations. I just don't have the spare change for that kind of thing. I'd rather give my spare change locally, than glabally.

[AZhitman]

Well, my intention is to build MaximaClub.org into a equally-useful resource, without all the headaches.

Our philosophy has served us well in every other forum, and we're reaching a lot of new Maxima owners.

[Chris92SE]

I like that idea

something that I feel maxima.org has over Nicoclub is the layout.If I'm looking for information on my car and need to search or just post, i don't want information that isn't pertinent to my car.if I search or post about turbo (just a simple example) here I'll get answers from all the generations which doesn't help me much when a 4th gen and 5th gen have kits available. no such thing really exists for my car (3rd gen).I much prefer just being able to see stuff for my cars generation.it just simplifies me looking for things.

and as far as the spam reasoning goes. when that rule was enacted, I was seeing 2-3 posts a day in the 3rd gen forum that were fro viagra posted by users with 1 post registered that day. they enacted that rule and I haven't seen them since.

SMART noobs will get a hold of a member and ask them to post up. I've had that happen to me numerous times. I've got no problem doing it personally.Though I did register before the rule went into effect.

The moderators do appear to be a clique, though I do get along with them (at least the 3rd gen ones and an admin, and a super mod).

I agree pretty much with Brian, especially on the ease of use.

I have learned a lot on .org and because it's generation specific I got a lot more out of it. I also met a lot of people through that and NWMax (through .org) that helped me in person. I have done almost all the work on my car with the help of members and a lot of it I wouldn't have been able to do on my own. It also has a specific marketplace for each generation, which has been a major plus.

As for the moderators and stuff, new members just need to be sensible enough to do a little reading and posting some thoughtful things before going crazy with questions and remarks. Wise cracks should be held until you know a person or the usual posters, at least. I think a lot of the mods do overreact sometimes, but they have clearly stated rules and failing to follow them just leads to problems.

Also, if not for members paying for the .org when it was in financial trouble, the site would have been shut down. A lot of people that used the .org prior to the meltdown it had gladly paid to keep it going. The admins just kept charging as an incentive and as a means to thin out the search requests. At the time they didn't have the capacity to keep up with the search requests and it constantly messed up the servers.

[bobotech]

I hate maxima.org because of their arrrogance and atitude. It SUCKS!!

I don't care just how bloody intelligent and swift the folks are over there, they are such a-holes that they make maxima owning a chore.

When I need another car, I won't be considering a maxima if only because I know that the only other forum with info about the maxima is one of the worst on the entire internet.

Its not the content that I have a beef with, its the moderating team pure and simple. Nico might have its issues with a couple of mods but they are minor compared to the jerks over there.

I have never been banned from maxima.org or flamed myself, its the treatment that I see of others that turns me off so much to that site.

I just wish that they would self implode due to their arrogance but with the sheer volume of info they have, they can continue to milk their users and survive.

I just flat out enjoy my time here. Its an entertaining forum with a wealth of info. I don't think I could/would ever enjoy my time at maxima.org.

[LA02MAX]

ok I'm sorry for being an 'a-hole' since you insist that all of maxima.org's members are just that

I think many people just take it way too personally. 99% of the time, if someone comes in with a stupid question, yeah they're flamed for it, but the people usually either tell them how to search (if you aren't a donating member, there is still a way to search through google; this method is located in the stickies) or many people (myself included) post several threads that cover the topic top to bottom. It's the internet, people. Just don't get so worked up over someone getting mad at you for something stupid. I've been flamed several times for my opinions and I don't let it get to me.

[bobotech]

ok I'm sorry for being an 'a-hole' since you insist that all of maxima.org's members are just that

I think many people just take it way too personally. 99% of the time, if someone comes in with a stupid question, yeah they're flamed for it, but the people usually either tell them how to search (if you aren't a donating member, there is still a way to search through google; this method is located in the stickies) or many people (myself included) post several threads that cover the topic top to bottom. It's the internet, people. Just don't get so worked up over someone getting mad at you for something stupid. I've been flamed several times for my opinions and I don't let it get to me.

Its the mods that are the problem for the most part. I am a member of many many forums dating way back to the mid-90's and maxima.org draconian moderation is just unbelievable.

They (mods) are a bunch of pricks, flat out. The only saving grace they have is the sheer wealth of information.

People like you get sucked into max.org because you need help that is freely given at places like Nico yet you pay there. You now have a vested interest even if it means getting your hide swatted. I don't like that.

I may flame ricer n00bs in jest here but thats only because they ask for it, but if someone seriously comes to nico wanting to know the proper method for bleeding the coolant from their maxima's vg engine, I will tell them.

It seems that max.org seems to flame all n00bs unless they are paying members or somehow fly under the radar. If I went to max.org asking a simple question like "just how many quarts of oil does my car take" and I don't know crap about car mechanics, I bet dollars to donuts that someone from max.org will flame that guy. They might even say something like "Search!" but you can't even search!!

[AZhitman]

Information should be free, plain and simple.

I know this: I'd sell my house and my cars before I'd charge our members a dime.

They're good people who deserve respect and fair treatment, and if that means biting my tongue instead of flaming someone, then we'll both be better off.

p.s. LA's not an a-hole... He's been around here for quite a while and has been pretty darn helpful.

[bobotech]

Information should be free, plain and simple.

I know this: I'd sell my house and my cars before I'd charge our members a dime.

They're good people who deserve respect and fair treatment, and if that means biting my tongue instead of flaming someone, then we'll both be better off.

p.s. LA's not an a-hole... He's been around here for quite a while and has been pretty darn helpful.

Oh don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying anything about LA, i just don't like the org leadership is all.

Heck, maybe they have changed in the last 3 years. I haven't been there in quite some time (2-3 years?) so maybe they have become more n00b freindly. I don't know.

[LA02MAX]

You have several good points here. As I mentioned before, the mods do need to lighten the use of their ban stick a little, and sometimes it really makes me mad to see someone flamed entirely for asking in honest question and not even getting a simple answer (like you mentioned, a fluid capacity). A lot of times, there are some members that waste more time starting an arguement than it takes to just answer the simple question, but there are always members that chime in (like me) to answer the question, even if it is really stupid.

Like I said before, I just don't let it get to me, and most of the new members that actually have valuable information to contribute to maxima.org don't either. It is sad that there are several people who join, post a thread, get flamed, and never come back again, but that's just the way it is and there's nothing you or I can do to change it. I, however, will continue to contribute to the site, and I know I will also continute to learn new things as I do nearly every day. I like it because it's a site entirely dedicated to maximas, and many of the people on that site know them top to bottom, inside and out. If you just get past the flamers, it's a really good place to be and the things you learn are endless.

[Beancooker]

Oh don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying anything about LA, i just don't like the org leadership is all.

Heck, maybe they have changed in the last 3 years. I haven't been there in quite some time (2-3 years?) so maybe they have become more n00b freindly. I don't know.

Hell No!!! The org is not nOOb friendly. I asked a stupid question about 6 months ago. It's 2 pages, but makes for some shocking reading. Then I asked a different question a month or so ago. The first flaming really pissed me off, and kinda hurt my feelings. The second time I received no flames, just a quick lockdown, which really makes me abhor the org.

I know NICO is my home and the people here kick ***. I almost didn't join after leaving the org, because I figured all forums were the same. Glad I tested the waters here.

[rmd0311]

Wao.. I do sense some hatred and discomfort towards the folks over at Maxima.org.

I must agree when I first joined I was a little annoyed by all the crap. But its all there for a reason... I am a donating member and feel its a great community. I have never had a question go unanswered.

[maxhopper]

I think you are reading more into the comments that have been made than what was intended. There is a great amount of information, and quite a few quality members on the org. But there are also many aspects that leave much to be desired. This isn't a pissing contest...just people voicing their opinion.

[Beancooker]

^ +1 Scott!!

[dr-rjp]

I have been banned for a month from Maxima.org because I took offense to the nasty, condesdending respones I received from the moderator of the I30/I35 board. I had a legitimate post that asked simple question, and he proceeded to tear me down. When I responded, he continued to crack on me, and then threatened to ban me if I replied to him.

Well, I replied and he banned me...but not after going on a long tirade that made it seem like I murdered his family or something.

The guy obviously has major issues and he should not be put in charge of any public board.

However, he is not alone. There are other members on Maxima.org who think they are God and that eveyone else is an idiot. Of course, they never get banned.

Anyway, I am glad that we have this forum and very happy with all that I have read. The folks here are also much, much nicer.

I am done with Maxima.org, period. I do not need to be insulted every time I ask a question.

[Beancooker]

Welcome, glad you're here. Enjoy your stay.

I read the posts that got you banned. Yeah, that mod semms like an a$$. He can dish it out, but doesn't take it too well. Hope you don't really hate maximas though.

[kahnartist]

I've joined your site TODAY after trying in vain to search topics, post, etc on the 'OTHER' site you all are talking about.

I found after searching...the 'reason' they state you can't use a 'search function' is that it puts 'too much stress on their servers'. HA! One of the lamest excuses I've ever seen? I went to the site SPECIFICALLY to search for a topic and they make you run in circles. Couldn't find a thing there. Came over here and found diagrams, posts, etc., on my 3rd gen sunroof issue. THANKS!!!!!

Glad I found this site and am posting over here...very easy...like normal forums. Plus, I found all the info I needed ASAP.

This site ROCKS and I hope to make some new buds here...as well as getting good information and ENCOURAGING new people to join.

I agree that their 'rule' to create over 10 posts is very stupid and from the eplies I'm reading...that "OTHER" site makes it a pain the rear to do the simplest functions.

Going to enjoy my stay here. I'm busy on other Honda Ridgeline forums too.

[AZhitman]

^ WOW!

Welcome aboard - Glad you found us.

Traffic to http://www.MaximaClub.org has been skyrocketing, and we intend to make it THE go-to resource for Maxima owners on the internet.

It's off to a great start, and we won't stop until we achieve our goal. No server issues, unlimited space, no pissy moderators, no egos, just a good, helpful community.

[Beancooker]

Welcome kahnartist... cool you found your way here.

Glad you found all the info you needed, if we can help, or if you have ANY questions, post 'em!

[internetautomart]

: I didn't have that problem when I started over there.The servers were overloaded when I joined over there, so much so that the board went down regularly. by doing the pay to search they were able to raise the funds needed to keep the board up and upgrade it so it became stable.

oh and for the record the mods here have given me more trouble than the ones anywhere else. :

I've joined your site TODAY after trying in vain to search topics, post, etc on the 'OTHER' site you all are talking about.

I found after searching...the 'reason' they state you can't use a 'search function' is that it puts 'too much stress on their servers'. HA! One of the lamest excuses I've ever seen? I went to the site SPECIFICALLY to search for a topic and they make you run in circles. Couldn't find a thing there. Came over here and found diagrams, posts, etc., on my 3rd gen sunroof issue. THANKS!!!!!

Glad I found this site and am posting over here...very easy...like normal forums. Plus, I found all the info I needed ASAP.

This site ROCKS and I hope to make some new buds here...as well as getting good information and ENCOURAGING new people to join.

I agree that their 'rule' to create over 10 posts is very stupid and from the eplies I'm reading...that "OTHER" site makes it a pain the rear to do the simplest functions.

Going to enjoy my stay here. I'm busy on other Honda Ridgeline forums too.

[audtatious]

: I didn't have that problem when I started over there.The servers were overloaded when I joined over there, so much so that the board went down regularly. by doing the pay to search they were able to raise the funds needed to keep the board up and upgrade it so it became stable.

Which is also why they stopped allowing non-members to search. Doug has done a good job with keeping the server rolling.

oh and for the record the mods here have given me more trouble than the ones anywhere else. :

Gotta follow the TOA, my friend.

[internetautomart]

Which is also why they stopped allowing non-members to search. Doug has done a good job with keeping the server rolling.

yes he has I remember when it was down for a week, boy did we have our hands full at max-world, shame that board is just about dead now

Quote »Gotta follow the TOA, my friend. [/quote] I have haven't Ieven if it does suck :

[audtatious]

yes he has I remember when it was down for a week, boy did we have our hands full at max-world, shame that board is just about dead now

Yeah. NissanX picked up at that time as well. It's an empty shell now.

I have haven't Ieven if it does suck :

Yes you have. You can always talk with Greg to remedy that