Matty's s14SR hatch build and more!! suggestions welcome :D

[White Comet]

im not sure how i'd feel about relocating the fuses and relays to the trunk but its original

[pauliedrft]

nice work man are you using the s-14 inter cooler set , all you needed was a 60 degree piece to make it fit correctly just wandering because in doing this swap next year on my s-13 hatch .. and i know with the s-13 sr you have to recirculate the bov or the motor wont run correctly do you need to do it with the s-14 also ...

[Stripes]

im not sure how i'd feel about relocating the fuses and relays to the trunk but its original

If you have your battery relocated to your trunk then I think it would be a smarter place to move them if you ever decided to relocate them.

nice work man are you using the s-14 inter cooler set , all you needed was a 60 degree piece to make it fit correctly just wandering because in doing this swap next year on my s-13 hatch .. and i know with the s-13 sr you have to recirculate the bov or the motor wont run correctly do you need to do it with the s-14 also ...

Yup, the 60* was all I needed, but try finding one. You will either have to get one custom made or do what I did and use a pvc 60* elbow that is the same diameter as the piping being used.As far as the BOV recirculate.... I can not verify this as true, since I have seen a lot of sr20's and hardly any run recirculated. Also, I do not think I have ever seen a notch top with a recirculated BOV, so no I do not think this would affect the way the motor runs. Many people just cap off the recirculation part of their piping like I did.If you look at the fourth picture in the last post that was made with pics, you can see a white cap on the end of my cold pipe.

[White Comet]

If you have your battery relocated to your trunk then I think it would be a smarter place to move them if you ever decided to relocate them.

yeah but its a LOT of work to move it that far back. im mounting my relays in my glovebox and running the engine room wires behind the dash

[BrianHarte]

I like your white valve cover.

[pauliedrft]

Im sorry i wasn't more specific ,as your driving the car and come to a stop or let the throttle close your maf say put this amount of fuel in and the bov let the air go into the atmosphere so it causes you to run rich ,it bogs and will some times die .. my friend has a s-13 black top and has been having the problem .. If not recirculating it works for you then ill try it myself ... Still great work and info but the rest of the inter cooler did fit correctly though ...

[Stripes]

yeah but its a LOT of work to move it that far back. im mounting my relays in my glovebox and running the engine room wires behind the dash

Yeah it is. That sounds like a good idea too, I may have to try that. I just took my dash out today.

I like your white valve cover.

Thanks!

Im sorry i wasn't more specific ,as your driving the car and come to a stop or let the throttle close your maf say put this amount of fuel in and the bov let the air go into the atmosphere so it causes you to run rich ,it bogs and will some times die .. my friend has a s-13 black top and has been having the problem .. If not recirculating it works for you then ill try it myself ... Still great work and info but the rest of the inter cooler did fit correctly though ...

Hmmm.... I'm still not sure about that. The BOV isn't opening unless you let off the throttle when under boost to release pressure, so I don't see why bogging at idle would have anything to do with the BOV. Does he have all of his vacuum lines hooked up properly? I know you have to have a atmospheric line going from the intake to the intake manifold, and I think not having that connected would cause a similar problem. I would have to look into it more.

Oh, yeah sorry I didn't answer you about the intercooler before man. I used an S13 intercooler kit and then ordered an s14 piping kit. I'm actually using a mix of s13 and s14 piping custom fitted. It was pretty tough to get everything right, I wish I knew how to weld or I would just have 2 solid pipes instead.

[Rin5]

Hmmm.... I'm still not sure about that. The BOV isn't opening unless you let off the throttle when under boost to release pressure, so I don't see why bogging at idle would have anything to do with the BOV. Does he have all of his vacuum lines hooked up properly? I know you have to have a atmospheric line going from the intake to the intake manifold, and I think not having that connected would cause a similar problem. I would have to look into it more.

Oh, yeah sorry I didn't answer you about the intercooler before man. I used an S13 intercooler kit and then ordered an s14 piping kit. I'm actually using a mix of s13 and s14 piping custom fitted. It was pretty tough to get everything right, I wish I knew how to weld or I would just have 2 solid pipes instead.

1 - bov shouldNT matter at idle...

2 - for those who like to say "im planning on my swap...blah blah" learn how things work and stead of paying out of your bung to get something you need that could be made do what me and matt do and just use what you got or find someone who can make stuff for you cheap but proper

3 - I WANT THAT 86!! i need a new beater so i can keep up with you on mods!!
Modified by Rin5 at 3:56 AM 10/21/2008

[Rin5]

yeah but its a LOT of work to move it that far back. im mounting my relays in my glovebox and running the engine room wires behind the dash

there isnt much wiring hooked up to the fuse box...my plan was to cut extend and wrap everything

as far as wrapping..i plan to use tape and heatshrink on the splices then bunching common wires into groups and taping it...then tape all the grouped bunches to one taped line and then putting conduit around it and taping that --- for abrasion protection...and i think thats all...so basically: cut, extend, splice, tape, tape, conduit, tape, mount to any choice of methods...

in my opinion and experience...i feel it is easier to do that than wiggle stuff into glovebox and figuring out how to fit and mount things...right?

NOTE: i dont have a glove box and i plan on having all those fuses that hook to power to be CBreaker'd prolly 2 breakers? 1 for all the engine bay crap that hooked up to battery and 1 for my own electronics that i hook up ...Carputer anyone? replace my cluster for a widescreen touchscreen and have my gauges on pillar in vents and the mickeymouse ones for steering column

just a thought...then have all those instrumental electronics hookd to a common ground and common power via fuse bus (positive hooks to this bolt and supplies power to 6 fuse slots that can connect to your perhipherals...i FUBAR that spelling but its ok... i havent slept yet since i last saw this SR and im too anxious about getting an 86 to sleep

[White Comet]

Yeah it is. That sounds like a good idea too, I may have to try that. I just took my dash out today.

check out my build thread. i have pics of doing exactly that

in my opinion and experience...i feel it is easier to do that than wiggle stuff into glovebox and figuring out how to fit and mount things...right?

i disagree. mounting will be easy and the overall product will be clean, im over half way finished with mine right now

[Stripes]

1 - bov should matter at idle...

2 - for those who like to say "im planning on my swap...blah blah" learn how things work and stead of paying out of your bung to get something you need that could be made do what me and matt do and just use what you got or find someone who can make stuff for you cheap but proper

3 - I WANT THAT 86!! i need a new beater so i can keep up with you on mods!!

I still don't see why BOV would matter, I'll have to get you to explain it to me again.

- Yeah man I've learned SOO much by doing things my self, and I would feel very comfortable doing it all again and even rebuilding my motor by myself. Thanks for that eric You have helped me with a lot of things I did not know about as well

-YES! that 86 is so sick!!! haha. there is another coupe right down the road from me, I just found it tonight on accident. It's white and very clean but I don't think it's for sale.

UPDATE!!!

Thanks chad for the last update!! I haven't had time to do my own I've been so busy with work and the girl. I got quite a bit done today though.....

I decided to start on re-doing my interior since I went and bought my fabrics on Friday. I'm doing my headliner, glove box, and door panels in black suede, and my shift boot and sun visors will be done in leather. I'm pretty much doing my whole interior in black. The suede is awesome, I can't wait to start using it. It has a nice feel to it and I think it will add some much needed class to my project

Here's how it started out:





Gutted everything out to get ready to tuck the wires behind the dash and organize all the wires I will have running to dash switches and gauges.

Then I used Duplicolor Vinyl and Fabric paint to do my carpet black.

Before and after shot:



It's all done now but I figured I'd just show you guys how much of a difference this stuff makes. A few people thought I had ordered brand new carpet, hahaha.

Then I started on my gauge cluster that I will be putting in the dash. First I grabbed a spare interior plastic piece to use for the plastic to hold the gauges in the vents:



I just used scissors to get the basic cut out, then used a file and a razor to get everything more precise:



And here is the piece in the dash. Still had a few things I needed to trim up in this pic:



Then I cut out 3 holes for the gauges using one of these bad boys:





Then I took some 2" pvc and cut some very thin angled slices to hold the gauges in. I decided not to use them however, since it was very hard to try and get them all at the same angle so I'm going to get a family friend to use a drill press to get them all perfectly cut.

So that was it for today, I ran out of time early since I went pumpkin picking with the lady and then off to my cousins birthday. Things are coming together nicely though, and I am starting to realize the severity of taking time to pay attention to every detail to get everything as perfect as I want it. I am really looking forward to wrapping everything with the suede and leather, it should set everything off nicely

I'll try to get an update to you guys by Wednesday, but I'm not making any promises... I'm a pretty busy person

-Matty!
Modified by Stripes at 1:42 PM 3/20/2009

[BrianHarte]

Question: that fabric paint, how is it? Does it STINK? Do they make it odorless somehow?

[Stripes]

You'd think they would try to make it odorless seeing how it will be used for areas where people are gonna be, but it actually has a very strong scent. I think it's a little bit stronger than their high heat engine paint, if you've ever use that. I actually checked to see if you could still smell it after leaving my carpet outside for the day and there really isn't any scent of paint left.

One of my friends used it and put his interior back in his car right after and he said it smelled like spray paint for a day or two but then it went away.

[mRodiek]

You'd think they would try to make it odorless seeing how it will be used for areas where people are gonna be, but it actually has a very strong scent. I think it's a little bit stronger than their high heat engine paint, if you've ever use that. I actually checked to see if you could still smell it after leaving my carpet outside for the day and there really isn't any scent of paint left.

One of my friends used it and put his interior back in his car right after and he said it smelled like spray paint for a day or two but then it went away.

my buddy & i just did this to his civic and he left it out for a day and it doesnt smell at all in his car, he just had to drive around w/o a carpet in his car for one day loland it works really well, he used it on his rear seats too-looks brand spankin new!!keep the updates comin dude

[Rin5]

One of my friends used it and put his interior back in his car right after and he said it smelled like spray paint for a day or two but then it went away.

Matt heres pics of the black interior redo i did to my old poopbrowninterior 240sx back in 2005-2006



BEFORE:





Sorry for all the pics

[Rin5]

how did the suede headliner go?

btw the artwork that you do on computer...like your sig...how do you do those effects? is it by hand? i have this wicked idea....i could sketch some basic plan out and you can do your effects on the picture and have it sent to some custom fabric maker people and have a fricken awesome pattern on cloth to use for interior design...

[pauliedrft]

ok ive found more info .

BOV:Entirely upto you, you pickWhen running an aftermarket BOV, I would recommend running it in re-circulation mode for when you vent to the atmosphere, the MAF has already account for that air and will flood the engine with fuel causing you to run real rich in-between shifts.

[White Comet]

just my 2 pennies. i run my hks ssqv straight to the atmosphere and have no problems with it

[pauliedrft]

Well then i say go for it and if it works great if not recirculate ...

[Stripes]

how did the suede headliner go?

btw the artwork that you do on computer...like your sig...how do you do those effects? is it by hand? i have this wicked idea....i could sketch some basic plan out and you can do your effects on the picture and have it sent to some custom fabric maker people and have a fricken awesome pattern on cloth to use for interior design...

Headliner turned out great.. I'll post pics later About the artwork- I do graphic design as a side job, so if you want something just let me know and I can do pretty much anything with artwork. Most of the time I'll do it all for free just because I'm trying to get my work out there and practice working for clients. So let me know

ok ive found more info .

BOV:Entirely upto you, you pickWhen running an aftermarket BOV, I would recommend running it in re-circulation mode for when you vent to the atmosphere, the MAF has already account for that air and will flood the engine with fuel causing you to run real rich in-between shifts.

I'm running 550cc's without a tune. I'm running rich as crap already anyway.

[Stripes]

The interior is going pretty well. There isn't too much to show besides finished rear fabrics and headliner. I've yet to do my glove box, doors and shift boot.









The headliner turned out really nice, I'm very pleased with the results. Thanks for the help Rin!

I kinda held off on doing my gauges for now because I decided to go with a better looking cluster of gauges. I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering oil, boost, and air fuel gauges from prosportgauges.com They look very nice and are really affordable and they have some great reviews as well.I'm also coming up with more ideas to do with the engine bay. I'm gonna make an oil catch can that will have 4 fittings on it to catch blow by gasses from all 3 valves on my valve cover and another off the intake. If anyone has ever seen broadfields catch can, I'm basing mine off of his. Also, I'm making oil and power steering coolers, hoping to spend under $80 on each. I'll post up whats going on when it all starts happening. Let me know if you guys have any ideas or suggestions. Thanks!
Modified by Stripes at 1:44 PM 3/20/2009

[Rin5]

sweet deal...and to think we did that liner in the dark lol...

hows about this...teach me how you make your artwork (write up ?)

oh yeah a suggestive question:you running Adj FPR? i dont remember if you had one or not

[VA_S13]

pvc mock up...thats whats up

[1991Sr20]

Nice Project iam also doing the swap

[Stripes]

No adj FPR.An artwork write up? ... It's not something you can really teach someone, it takes a lot of time to get good at something like that.

[pauliedrft]

well it doesnt matteer then lol .. im going to try the same thing when i do my swap .. but man its looking great

[Rin5]

No adj FPR.An artwork write up? ... It's not something you can really teach someone, it takes a lot of time to get good at something like that.

come on now i learn fast...just like a quick run how you do it...lol

anyways as far as the catch can...whats your plan? ive drawn out a few ideas that WILL work...but some need more work than others...

oh btw it is the black guy that owns 86...he called XD

[Stripes]

Did the suede on my glove box today. I'm loving this material



I also did my sun visors in black, so all that I have left to do now is my shift boot, which will be done in leather.

come on now i learn fast...just like a quick run how you do it...lol

anyways as far as the catch can...whats your plan? ive drawn out a few ideas that WILL work...but some need more work than others...

oh btw it is the black guy that owns 86...he called XD

Well what is it that you are trying to do? With my signature I used a pretty large combination of blending effects, vectors, brushes and basic shapes. It's also not something you can do without the right software. If you want something I can do it for you no problem.

For the catch can, I talked to broadfield about how his is filtering out the oil and he said it's baffled. So I came up with a basic design of what I'm gonna be doing



Seems effective, it's doing it's job. I can get all the parts I need to make this, and I have someone who is willing to weld it all together for me no problem.
Modified by Stripes at 1:45 PM 3/20/2009

[Rin5]

i rendered it in blue glass so that you can see it easier...

basically:

-3 thingies on top for the filters...you can have more or less-middle holes are for the IN flow of the box-top holes are the OUT flow-top plate is main baffle-lower plate that looks like colander is the oil dripper-in between that goes steel wool-bottom hole is for some sort of drainage

since your gonna be using 1/8" alum..it shouldnt be too hard to cut and drill it...so 8 pieces of flat plates and a pipe cut into # sections for the filter...

you can have as many INs and OUTs and Filters...


Modified by Rin5 at 6:13 AM 10/20/2008

[Rin5]

oh i just found this on my flash drive....