Massive Transmission problem!!!!

[S14Juggalo]

I have a 95 s14 100% stock. Before i pulled the transmission out it shifted fine. I change the clutch on the mutha sucka get everything back in fill the transmission up and now the damn thing wont shift! I can shift from first to second and put it in neutral BUT it all stays in the same gear no matter where you leave the shifter!

This is what my dumb self did! I tried to seperate the bell housing from the transmission and the trans cover started sliding off revealing the gears and such. I took the 3 random bolts in the plate that sandwiches between the transmission and bell housing.

After realizing i cant seperate the two i bolted the trans sandwich plate via 3 bolts back together then bolted the trans case and bell housing back together via the 8 bolts now. My question is did i bolt all of that in the wrong order back together or does it not matter and what the hell is my transmission doing and why is it not letting me shift into gears?

[SILVIAJayS]

Did you refill the clutch master cylinder and bleed it? Can't tell from your post if that's what you did or if you refilled the transmission fluid...

[nifares240]

you may have to adjust your clutch. your clutch is not disengaging all the way. that's why its hard to put in first when neutral.

[S14Juggalo]

Did you refill the clutch master cylinder and bleed it? Can't tell from your post if that's what you did or if you refilled the transmission fluid...

Master and slave bled and filled.

you may have to adjust your clutch. your clutch is not disengaging all the way. that's why its hard to put in first when neutral.

when i let off the clutch it moves i just cant put it in neutral or any other gears i put it in 1st still in 2nd. i put it in neutral still in 2nd. it wont let me go to any other gears

[E7-S14]

you say you halfway pulled the bell housing off?

if so. you many have had the sliders go in wrong or get stuck in the holes in the bell housing.

meaning your going to have to drop the transmission. take the bell housing off again. and put it back on MAKING SURE all the sliders fit in the holes easily and the right way.

its gonna suck. but looks like you have a long night ahead of you.

[S14Juggalo]

Thank you sir!!! Now what do you mean by the sliders? The big rod running thru the bell housing and sandwich plate? and how do i know theyre lined up right? I hate my face right now for all this

[E7-S14]

"from my KA transmission to SR bell-housing swap"

those 3 rods.fit into 3 holes in the bellhousingif you accidentally move one while bell housing is off OORRR get one caught in the hole/behind the hole or beside the hole its supposed to goin.then you've got problems

if anyone has any other suggestions.please chime in.

i did alot of research before taking my transmission apart.but im sure there are other things that could cause this problem

[S14Juggalo]

WOW thats crazyness how those rods will throw something way off! The only problem is that i didnt take the bellhousing all the way off i moved the cover off the transmission. The plate was still attached to the bellhousing side and i would say i moved it apart about an inch and a half to two inches. does the 3 bolts on the said have anything to do with my problem? I tightened them before i put the transmission back together.

[E7-S14]

does the 3 bolts on the said have anything to do with my problem? I tightened them before i put the transmission back together.

my mind goes blank when i try to think of 3 bolts on the side..wait.. i gotta a spare transmission in my garage..i shalt go look!

*EDIT*ok. i see the 3 bolts..2 are together and ones off to the side.no idea what they do.i didn't touch those when i pulled my bellhousing.sorry

[S14Juggalo]

yup those are the bolts. I dont know what they do either but they have springs in them and they are in the same place as those three rods. I really wish i knew how to align those rods! since i didnt pull the bell housing all the way off i dont see if they spun or not or if they are not all the way up or what the crap.

[S14Juggalo]

"from my KA transmission to SR bell-housing swap"

those 3 rods.fit into 3 holes in the bellhousingif you accidentally move one while bell housing is off OORRR get one caught in the hole/behind the hole or beside the hole its supposed to goin.then you've got problems

if anyone has any other suggestions.please chime in.

i did alot of research before taking my transmission apart.but im sure there are other things that could cause this problem

Do you have a side pic of these 3 rods? I think that cut out on the bottom rod is all the way on the otherside of that plate into the trany side that may be the problem

[240life]

I got a center section of a s13 trans on the ground, I will take pics tonight so you can see the position of the rods in neutral. It sounds like you have a miss aligned fork.....When you drop the transmission, you will need to remove the shifter cover, and then take a punch and knock out the pin in the shifter slot. Next remove the 19-21mm bolt and spring on the tail shaft either side, and pull the insert out in order to remove the rear section. It is not that hard.

[240tunerguy]

check your shifter where it goes into the top of the trans, if its not seated in the hole its supposed to go in, it will stay stuck in 1st or 2nd gear. my .02

[S14Juggalo]

Alright

I got a center section of a s13 trans on the ground, I will take pics tonight so you can see the position of the rods in neutral. It sounds like you have a miss aligned fork.....When you drop the transmission, you will need to remove the shifter cover, and then take a punch and knock out the pin in the shifter slot. Next remove the 19-21mm bolt and spring on the tail shaft either side, and pull the insert out in order to remove the rear section. It is not that hard.

Alright thanx alot bro!!!

check your shifter where it goes into the top of the trans, if its not seated in the hole its supposed to go in, it will stay stuck in 1st or 2nd gear. my .02

Its seated in there i made sure of that but thanx for your suggestion!

[nifares240]

you need to adjust the shaft on the clutch pedal, the one that goes to the clutch master cylinder. this happened to me after replacing the clutch. I couldn't get it in gear coming from neutral. if you start the car from first, it will grab the clutch and that's fine. what you want is the clutch to disengage all the way.

assuming you only took the down the transmission and not open any hydraulic lines. if you took apart the bell housing, which i don't see what for when doing this job, then you may have to go back and redo everything else.

[S14Juggalo]

you need to adjust the shaft on the clutch pedal, the one that goes to the clutch master cylinder. this happened to me after replacing the clutch. I couldn't get it in gear coming from neutral. if you start the car from first, it will grab the clutch and that's fine. what you want is the clutch to disengage all the way.

assuming you only took the down the transmission and not open any hydraulic lines. if you took apart the bell housing, which i don't see what for when doing this job, then you may have to go back and redo everything else.

Its pretty spongie but i know its not that cuz if i leave the shifter in neutral and i let off the clutch i start moving forward. You see my problem now? I only have 2nd gear 24-7. No 1st 3rd 4th 5th neutral or reverse. I tryed to take the bell housing apart cuz i was doing all that crap by myself no help just me so i was told that i couldve took the 2 apart to make my life easier and not slaughter my arms.

[S14Juggalo]

Hey 240life can you post them pics of the side of them 3 rods so i dont set my car on fire? Please!

[240life]

got to find my camera but i will post them tonight

[S14Juggalo]

you sir will probably save my sanity...well whats left of it anyways

[S14Juggalo]

OK!!!! Check this out I figured out what them 3 random bolts are!!! They hold in whats called check balls. Check balls are freaking ball bearings!!! I found one under my car today after looking this up at school and these check balls is what aligns the the rods and crap soooooo Thats my problem and i have to figure out which one fell out and put it back in.I am missing one of the 3 on the outside all this headache and frustration is becuz of one FECKING metal ball!!!!

[2jztwoforty]

OK!!!! Check this out I figured out what them 3 random bolts are!!! They hold in whats called check balls. Check balls are freaking ball bearings!!! I found one under my car today after looking this up at school and these check balls is what aligns the the rods and crap soooooo Thats my problem and i have to figure out which one fell out and put it back in.I am missing one of the 3 on the outside all this headache and frustration is becuz of one FECKING metal ball!!!!

All those springs and balls do is make the shifter stay in place when u let off the shifter and help give the transmission a more positive shift feeling, you do need them in there but this should not be your only problem. it should still be able to shift into all gears without any of the springs and balls in place. like the other guy said your shift forks are not lined up into the holes in the case. it sounds like 2 of them are out of place 3-4th and 5-R

[nevertheless]

Your shifter is probably in backwards.

[S14Juggalo]

Idk how the hell they got crooked i didnt even take it all the way apart. just slide them about an inch and a half apart. But ill check this ball thing out and if nothing then im gonna have to twist them 2 rods to fit them right or something.

[S14Juggalo]

Your shifter is probably in backwards.

Hahahahaha Ive actually done that before on my s13 but no sir its not in backwards i made sure it wasnt this time.

[S14Juggalo]

Bump! Anyone ever dealt with the check balls falling out of thier main plate making the trans stay only in one gear?

[2jztwoforty]

Bump! Anyone ever dealt with the check balls falling out of thier main plate making the trans stay only in one gear?

as i said before that will not cause your transmission to lock into a gear, you need to pull the trans and take the bellhousing off all the way and then reline it up with the shift rods, you might also want to visualy check out everything while the transmission is apart too. and before you put the trans back into the car put the shifter on it and verify that it shifts into all gears and still spins

[S14Juggalo]

I dont see how the rods came mis aligned tho i didnt barely get the trans apart.