Manual transmission Woes

[xxtrizz]

Ok I got my engine rebuilt the transmission had been sitting for about 4-6 mnoths unsure exactly how long however I have everythign back in together when I go to shift Its really hard to get the shifter into gear I put in about 2 5/9 gear 80-90 oil but its being a pain can someone offer up some advice for this?

new clutch is a SPEC stage 3 and fidanza flywheel but I dont think that would have anything to do with when I change gears... help

Troy

[s13sr20chris]

what kind of car and engine?does it grind or just have high effort?is it gear specific?

[xxtrizz]

90 nissan 240sx it takes high effort like I have to jam it in but sometimes it grinds as well.

Not sure about the last question

[s13sr20chris]

does it happen in all gears?

sounds like a clutch issue. do you still have the damper box on your slave cyl? try removing it and bleeding clutch. then make sure the pedal is adjusted.

[xxtrizz]

Ok things I changed with the new clutch .. put on new flywheel put on cluthc plate with key in place put pressur eplate up torqued it to 22 ft lbs all around new throw out bearing tapped on to the carrier.. I tapped the bearing all the way down till the inner lip was flush with the end of the carrier. the pivot and fork are setup correctly other than that I mean why would I need to bleed the clutch etc? I never took apart anything else the slave cylinder has always been on the line since I removed the transmission.

comments?

[s13sr20chris]

if you never opened a line you should not need to bleed it. still, you can check by having someone operate the clutch while you watch from underneath. if its not that, it may be a problem with the hardware like a bent clutch fork, busted pivot, etc. it could still be internal to the transmission as well. oh yeah, the clutch disks have been known to stick to flywheels before.

[xxtrizz]

Sorry it took me so long to follow up with this thread chris, but I havent done anythign to it yet. I called Nissan recently and he siad that the Transmission shaft could be off, curious how a larg shaft with splines that slips on to a keyed splined receptor could be off? ...... Also you said clutch plates stick to flywheels sometimes? How woudl I rememdy this? Im thinking about bleeding the system here soon but we got that snow storm so im out of luck as for now. Personally I cant wait to get the car fixed but jeeez weather = teh suck,

If everything was operating perfectly I should see the Clutch slave cylinder push the picot fork deeply correct? THis would release the diaphram for the housing and loosen the plate against the flywheel. Hopefully I wont have this be to complicated maybe A good full flush bleed will remedy the problem, Nissan charges like 250 for a complete flush on fluids for the hydraulic systems. Anyone do a complete flush bleed work for cars that im unaware of, and does it good?

[navysnail]

definatly sounds like a clutch issue like you said chris. if you are going to flush the hydraulic system, remove the damper box first, you will thank yourself later, as its a pita to get al the air out of.

oh, and isnt the clutch disk sticking to the flywheel more of a truck thing when people go offroading and go through lots of deep water?

[s13sr20chris]

oh, and isnt the clutch disk sticking to the flywheel more of a truck thing when people go offroading and go through lots of deep water?

yes, but i never rule it out

[navysnail]

is it likely to happen with a new clutch though, i mean i guess its posible...

[xxtrizz]

well yeah the damper is still installed however I dont think I would have the knowledge or knowhow to bend that tubing around to fit so it doesnt have a dampner.

If I jsut bled the clutch and then adjusted the engagement rod would that do you think help?

When you guys say clutch it sounds liek I will have to tear the transmission apart because my clutch kit is bad.

[s13sr20chris]

well yeah the damper is still installed however I dont think I would have the knowledge or knowhow to bend that tubing around to fit so it doesnt have a dampner.

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its pretty easy. you just bend it.

[xxtrizz]

Isnt there worry about bending i till it actually comes off or putting to much pressure in a bend to where it pinches the line?

[s13sr20chris]

it actually requires so little bending that its not an issue. believe me, i have done it. that and double wall tubing is not as prone to kinking as you would think.

[xxtrizz]

Ok I ended up bleeding the system however I havent started the car yet I still have the oil pan leak, I was trying to bleed the system with the clutch master cylinder cap on, for gods sake people do not do that, if you bleed it take the cap off.

I was there for like 35 min jsut passing air through the system hahaa but i think I got most of everything out. Weird thing is like the cylinder had a black residue on the insid walls and the fluid was like black is that bad I would assume so.

[s13sr20chris]

i have seen that before but i dont know what it is.

[xxtrizz]

Well long story short I tok the vehicle to nissan for the oil pan leak and hazza they jsut adjusted the engagement of the slave cylinder piston on the clutch pedal so that It would push farther down on the diaphram apparently it worked I get into gear fine, although a little rougher than it used to be I fumble when sliding into gear rather then fall into gear like a grind but without the grind. Everything is good cars at 500 miles on the performance rebuild about to take it in for an oil change once I get back from vacation, then its time for suspension. woohoo

[s13sr20chris]

well good. im always glad to see someone work out the bugs and move on to some upgrades!