Manifold issues...

[Tictakman]

I had a Phatkat manifold on order for 5 weeks now, taked to mike there and he told me that they were having fitment issues on the s14 manifold so he didnt want to sell it to me. my question: how can i get a hold of Ivan and have him make me one? i really like the design and would like to get it if i can. I know rick makes a manifold too but i dont know really any other info besides kat.org info. are there any problems known yet? it looks like a bd manifold. i know its not but i had one and i kept havin issues with it. im sure its better quality anyhow.

Zak

[fiznat]

Ivan no longer works for Sound Performance. He works at a place called AMS (big with DSMs). Even the Phat KA-T name is no longer his- Sound Performance took it from him when he switched shops. Ivan's new KA-T company is based out of AMS - his website is just getting started up, but the URL is http://www.turbo240.com.

The PK manifold that you know no longer has anything to do with Ivan, so I doubt he can help you with it. I talked with him 2 days ago though, and a new "better" KA-T manifold is in the design phase right now-- I'm sure he will make everyone aware of it once it is released. No real ETA as of now though.

If I were you honestly, I would look harder at that manifold at KA-T.org. Nothing like a boost designs manifold at all-- that is the one I will probably be using with my new build as well. Other manifolds in this price range include of course the IAP manifold, and the PhamSpeed one found at http://www.cheapturbo.com.

[Florida240sx]

So that's what happened to Ivan....My friend just bought a revhard mani for 385 new...

[Tictakman]

ill be sure to bookmark the new site. talking to mike(phatkat guy) he said that when ivan left he took the jig that made the s14 one and thats why they were having problems now. ill contact rick and see what i can get. i know they arent even close to the same but with the bd manifold i kept getting the boost creep and that damn wg tube kept comin off. from the looks of rick's there is no wg tube that will break and im guessin no boost creep issues.

Z

[fiznat]

The GroundZero (Rick's) manifold looks pretty good in the pictures - night and day on all accounts compared to the Boost Designs one. The phamspeed one is pretty much the same thing, albit a little more expensive. Keep in mind though that you have to add $50+ (depending on type) to the cost of the GroundZero one so they will weld a wastegate flange on there for you. Also, I dont know anyone who has the GZ mani on their car yet (besides Rick himself), so right now it is untested. Still, it looks pretty nice.

[Tictakman]

well i just ordered one from groundzero total was a little over a grand. the flange ur talkin about costs 100 bucks extra to weld in. i also got a egt bung and 2 o2 bungs add on to it and the dp. should get it in 2 weeks they say

[fiznat]

WOW was it really that much??

Could you give a breakdown of the prices?

[9sec240]

ill be sure to bookmark the new site. talking to mike(phatkat guy) he said that when ivan left he took the jig that made the s14 one and thats why they were having problems now. ill contact rick and see what i can get. i know they arent even close to the same but with the bd manifold i kept getting the boost creep and that damn wg tube kept comin off. from the looks of rick's there is no wg tube that will break and im guessin no boost creep issues.

Z

First off, you are being lied to by Mike. The S13 and S14 manifold are exactly the same, built on the same jig by the same person. Sound Performance has EVERY jig that Forrest, Andy, John (Tech One Welding) and I ever built for anything KA related. Basically, it sounds like you ordered the manifold just after I left Sound Performance to work at AMS. You were being lied to and they have been stringing you along since you ordered the mainfold. There were no manifold fitment issues up to the point when I left Sound Peformance. All manifolds were out sourced and built by John at Tech One which led to some down pipe fitment issues due to differences in in the way the flanges were surfaced after welding. This was corrected by building and fitting down pipes for each and every individual header. Every header that I took orders for while I was there was fitted with a DP and numbered before it was coated and shipped. A large reason for me leaving Sound Peformance was due to these type of issues. I dont feel its right to string customers along and I wanted to have total control over the build and quality of the products I sell.

Mike at Sound Performance has NO knowledge about anything but sales and in NO way could he ever represent PK or help a 240 customer with anything beyond selling something to make money.

As far as PK is concerned, basically I was threatened with "lawyers" by Gary at Sound Peformance if I used PK to sell anything even though PK was my idea and my sole efforts. I invested HUNDREDES of hours of my OWN time building PK and the web site and forums. I spent hundreds of dollars of my own money keeping the web site up and running. I never got a cent from anything PK related as EVERYTHING was run through Sound Performance. I never ONCE got reimbursed for the time or money I put into PK. Gary thinks because the twins car was built at Sound Performance by me and the R&D that went into it was done at Sound Performance, that PK belongs to Sound Performance. I dont have the time or money to get into "lawyers" so I have the new site going up.

Everybody that had anything to do with PK has left Sound Performance. Andy (fabrication) finished school and went home to MN. Forrest (design and fabrication) finished school and went home to NC. I left to work at AMS. Basically, there is nobody left there with any KA knowledge.

[95_240sx]

Whoa...Fiznat youre all mixed up!

The phamspeed manifold is no longer, its the groundzero manifold, still being built by the same person, they just merged with GZ. the cheapturbo.com one is Peekboost. I was at the shop today when tiktakman ordered and he also got a downpipe....i might be wrong.

Anyways, carry on.

Rick

[fiznat]

Ahhhh youre right Rick, haha I mixed up Phamspeed with Peakboost, which is the manifold I meant to mention. Damn those names that start with P!

Anyways yeah, Peakboost is the manifold you can find at http://www.cheapturbo.com: very similar but slightly more expensive.

Sorry bout that Rick.

And Ivan, good to have you back-- Sorry to hear about all the mess at SP, I didnt realise things were bad like that. Glad youve got your new setup going, we wish you the best-- both for your own benefet and ours . Also if you like, I'm sure we can have the stats from your old name transferred to this new name. No reason for you to be a "NICO Newbie." Let me know.

[9sec240]

Thanks Fiz. Basically, I believe that they are salty that I left. I heard thru the grapevine that they were pissed that I didnt allow them to counter offer. I am not the type of person to threaten my way into a better position and believe that if Sound Peformance felt that I was worth more than they were paying me that they should have ponied up the cash. The offer from AMS was WAY TOO GOOD to pass up and the ability to work out of a much better shop is icing on the cake. I now have health and dental insurance too

Its unfortunate that they are acting the way they are. I have heard from several people that they are making false statements to people about the conditions of me leaving and now Tictakman's issue with SP is being blamed on me. Honestly, I was sad to leave but now I am seeing that this was a much wiser decision than I had anticipated.

[nissanfanatic]

Damn Ivan. I'm glad to see you are on to bigger and better things! The best of luck to you!(even tho you don't need it. Skill and dedication>luck)

The Groundzero manifold is very nice. It is worth the price! Pictures don't do it justice. Once you recieve it and hold it, you'll know you have something nice. Welds are so damn perfect....

[nismofly]

good to hear from you Ivan

i take it you still have your s14.5 from your sig, whats to become of the twins car? are they going to start bringing it to you at AMS?

[9sec240]

good to hear from you Ivan

i take it you still have your s14.5 from your sig, whats to become of the twins car? are they going to start bringing it to you at AMS?

Yes, the S14.5 is with me at the new shop now. We are currently building a new header for my new GT42 R The new liquid IC is on its way and it will be up and running very soon.

The twins car is doing just fine. Heath brought the car to AMS today for us to fix the exhaust (his brother backed into something with it). I got the exhaust straightened out and we took it out for some street tuning and tweaking of the AEM EMS for BOTI tomorrow and Sunday. I believe the twins will be running very low boost and street tires this weekend which should net 119 mph trap speeds.

[Tictakman]

Here is the breakdown from what i can remembermanifold...8003"dp....300extra 02 bung 10egt bung 10and i think shippin was like 50.00

1 1/2 - 2 week shipping time

Zak

[Florida240sx]

In that mani price it has the $100 wastegate flange?

[Tictakman]

sorry i forgot to add that, that is correct. if u dont get the flange (internally gated) then its 700.00

Zak

[95_240sx]

http://www.ka-t.org has a group buy going on with them right now. I think its only going to last through friday the 23rd.

Rick

[ROB240]

good to hear your on to better things Ivan, my engine is done that has all the goodies I ordered from you and should hopefully be up and running within a few weeks. I think we need a message board on turbo240.com

[rn240sx]

Quote »Basically, there is nobody left there with any KA knowledge.[/quote]That explains why they acted the way they did when i called them up to tell them that they sent me an INCOMPLETE arp set for my ka motor...

They sent me 20 nuts and 20 washers with 10 block/main studs and MISSING the 10 head studs... I didnt relaize it until i took them to the machine shop and he opened it up and asked.... "where are the head studs"... I was like what do u mean..???

Not sure if Ivan was there when this happened... But whomever asnwered the phone could not understand the difference between head and main studs... Which i believe they will probably send me another set of main studs that i already have and screw the order up again....

Well see what happens..

[Tictakman]

rick, that group buy is for 695. is that with the wastegate flange? also, what is going to be the set price after the groupbuy?

Zak

[Florida240sx]

I'm interested as well.

[uncle_louie83]

you know ivan...the shop i work at here in kansas city is the same. we have a service manager who basically knows everything that goes on in the shop and with the customers. the actual shop manager. he doesnt know how to do anything but sell. he will schedule 5 cars to be due out at once with like 2 hours of work to do on all of them, with 2 guys in the shop and have only 3 hours to get it done. and then he will keep accepting more customers and get mad at us if we dont hurry up. i told him saturday to kiss my *** and get out here and do some work himself. since then he has lightened up a bit. we nicknamed him voodoo...its cause everything he touchs he ****s up. its a known fact that he doesnt know how to do anything to cars plus he doesnt even know how to run a tight shop. our service manager is the guy that should be the manager but unfortunatly corporate politics has taken over and its not who is the man for the job, its he who has more time built up in the company and is next in line. **** happens though, he wont be here much longer though cause he keeps ****in things up.

lewis

[Tictakman]

ttt, rick?