Manifold help/question

[Mustangs_Suck]

Ok...on to the next issue - finally got my cooling system finished, new thermostat, water pump, koyo radiator and cap, and flex-a-lite 12" fan took care of all that .

Next main issue is this. My turbo manifold hits my steering column. When I got my turbo redone (way back when) the guy who did the work knocked a dent in the manifold so it wouldn't rub anymore....but my mechanic inspected it and said it still rubs, just not as badly. He said that after time it might cause a problem, so getting a good manifold that fits correctly would be something I should do in the near future.

I have the xs bottom mount manifold for the t25/t28 (yes I know this isn't that good of a manifold to begin with and SSAUTO has many issues with parts fitting exact...but it came on the car...so yeah). My question is - what is a good bottom mount manifold that will fit properly for a t25? It's nothing that is something I must do now, but it is something I will want done in the near future, and I'd like to get some good recommendations from you guys - as I know, being this is the KA-T forum, you'll know where to go

thanks!

[Mustangs_Suck]

No one? basically i'm looking to replace my crap-tastic SSAUTOCHROME turbo manifold, and am looking for a good one. I've searched and all it does is bring up SR ****. I'd need a bottom mount manifold that will support a T25 turbo.

[214kka-et240sx]

No one? basically i'm looking to replace my crap-tastic SSAUTOCHROME turbo manifold, and am looking for a good one. I've searched and all it does is bring up SR ****. I'd need a bottom mount manifold that will support a T25 turbo.

heres my mani, will be installed, soon but here how it looks on a KA-ET. they do have one made already for a DOHC for like 100 bux



on the engine

[hysteria]

i don't personally know of any ka manifolds that are flanged for t25's or 28's other than that ssac one. but i imagine that if you wanted someone (a professional welder with access to a tig welder for example) to modify a manifold for you it wouldn't cost too much.... if you got the flange and did the cutting it would be a very quick welding job... just make sure the flange sits on there with the angle you need. on the other hand you may even be able to coax IAP into giving you an incompleted manifold or even welding it for you for a little extra moneywere you thinking of upgrading the turbo anytime soon? i know all the stuff you've been through and i know that spending more money on all that right now probably doesn't sound appealing so i'm not going to just spurt off a bunch of manifold manufacturers because i know you're probably on a tight budget at this point (i know i would be) but my reccommendation is that you upgrade the manifold when you get a different turbo... but i mean what is the condition of the t25 you have? is it worth keeping a long time? what are your long term plans, or goals? i know you are aware that the t25 you have won't go much further as far as upping the power output is concerned, but of course there are t25 based upgrades that will definitely do the job... i mean i guess that you'll be fine either way but i mean it just a lot of custom work unless someone else can chime in a give you a bunch of t2 flanged manifolds i am not aware of, or something to that effect.

[Mustangs_Suck]

i don't personally know of any ka manifolds that are flanged for t25's or 28's other than that ssac one. but i imagine that if you wanted someone (a professional welder with access to a tig welder for example) to modify a manifold for you it wouldn't cost too much.... if you got the flange and did the cutting it would be a very quick welding job... just make sure the flange sits on there with the angle you need. on the other hand you may even be able to coax IAP into giving you an incompleted manifold or even welding it for you for a little extra moneywere you thinking of upgrading the turbo anytime soon? i know all the stuff you've been through and i know that spending more money on all that right now probably doesn't sound appealing so i'm not going to just spurt off a bunch of manifold manufacturers because i know you're probably on a tight budget at this point (i know i would be) but my reccommendation is that you upgrade the manifold when you get a different turbo... but i mean what is the condition of the t25 you have? is it worth keeping a long time? what are your long term plans, or goals? i know you are aware that the t25 you have won't go much further as far as upping the power output is concerned, but of course there are t25 based upgrades that will definitely do the job... i mean i guess that you'll be fine either way but i mean it just a lot of custom work unless someone else can chime in a give you a bunch of t2 flanged manifolds i am not aware of, or something to that effect.

That is very true...I guess it would make more sense for me to just upgrade the turbo and manifold...as turbos aren't THAT expensive. The T25 I have is good, but as for how long it'll last? my guess is as good as anyone elses. As for long term goals - I want to eventually rebuild my motor and get 450rwhp down....which would cause me to re-do pretty much everything anyways. Right now, I'm just leary on throwing more power into the motor, as the compression test was kinda low....but i suppose it would be a waste of money to just get a manifold for my T25, and then have to get another one for a different turbo later on.

So here'll be some more questions then. I currently have a bottom mount set up - are there any advantages or any new things I'd need to buy for me to convert to a top mount? (other than the obvious top mount manifold), also what is a good turbo to get 450rwhp out of, without having to beat the **** out of it? - and then a manifold to support that?.

When thinking everything over and looking at the situation I'm in right now, I think it would be most wise to start buying things piece by piece, and hoping my current set up lasts me until I can get mostly everything I need at my house, so when the inevitable happens, I'll be ready - or if it lasts until I get it all pieced together - even better.

Thanks for your response - it does make ALOT of sense to start buying what I want for my future goals, and waiting until I get it all to put it together, than wasting money on something that isn't neccessarily needed on a set up I'll end up scrapping soon enough anyways.

[Mustangs_Suck]

heres my mani, will be installed, soon but here how it looks on a KA-ET. they do have one made already for a DOHC for like 100 bux



on the engine

Looks much better than that SSAUTO crap I have on it now, and the price is crazy cheap, but I think i'm going to do as Hysteria was talking about - and start planning for the future instead of spending money on something I don't neccessarily NEED on stuff that i'll be getting rid of soon enough anyways.

Thanks for the response though

[Nismo_Freak]

Looks much better than that SSAUTO crap I have on it now

Oh the irony of that statement...

[fiznat]

^^hahaha I know. Mustangs_Suck, that is a SSAutochrome manifold. 214kka-et240sx modified it to match his KA-E engine.

[sanioll]

Oh the irony of that statement...

THATS WHY I LOVE THIS PLACE.

[hysteria]

you only need the top mount manifold to convert to top mount setup.... of course though the exhaust will be different lengths and curves then so you'll have to have a different downpipe. anyhow i think it will just be easiest for you to eventually get a t3 based manifold because it seems to be the most popular... which means things will be easier to find, cheaper, more support, etc...especially when looking at 400+ whp, t3 is by far the most popular for the ka... like with iap, they give discounts to nico... and they are quite hefty discounts too. so in the long run it may end up costing less and the products you get from them will be good and if they aren't for whatever reason you weill have a place to turn to for help. when i build something myself and something goes wrong with it, the only person i have to consult about the job is myself, and maybe a friend or two that help me out. i don't know about irony... i was thinking more along the lines of inherent contradiction.

[Mustangs_Suck]

Oh the irony of that statement...

didn't even notice, but haha it DOES look much better than the SSAUTOCRAP i have on it now

[hannibal]

Wasabi Garage makes a bottom mount that puts the turbo in the same position as a stock SR. This allows you to run an SR downpipe, etc. Something to consider if you decide not to upgrade now.

http://wasabigarage.com/ka24de.html

[Mustangs_Suck]

you only need the top mount manifold to convert to top mount setup.... of course though the exhaust will be different lengths and curves then so you'll have to have a different downpipe. anyhow i think it will just be easiest for you to eventually get a t3 based manifold because it seems to be the most popular... which means things will be easier to find, cheaper, more support, etc...especially when looking at 400+ whp, t3 is by far the most popular for the ka... like with iap, they give discounts to nico... and they are quite hefty discounts too. so in the long run it may end up costing less and the products you get from them will be good and if they aren't for whatever reason you weill have a place to turn to for help. when i build something myself and something goes wrong with it, the only person i have to consult about the job is myself, and maybe a friend or two that help me out. i don't know about irony... i was thinking more along the lines of inherent contradiction.

thank ya very much for your help....i'll probably start talking to IAP in the near future and see what I can start doing here.