M56 starter from Rockauto

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I have never shopped at Rockauto before. The prices are ridiculous cheap compared to local parts store. My battery tested good but started failed the test. Should I buy this $80 some starter to fix my issue.

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https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/inf ... motor,4152


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RockAuto is VERY popular and VERY good. Can't speak to that particular item.

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My experiences with TYC parts in general have been very positive.

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Thank you gents. Their was an extra alphabet in the end so I did not know if that was the correct item or not. Edbwoy had posted the same part number in one of his YouTube videos minus the C

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VStar650CL wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:20 am
My experiences with TYC parts in general have been very positive.
Missed the brand earlier but I agree. I use TYC cabin filters, etc. and they are pretty great.

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Ilya wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:05 am
VStar650CL wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:20 am
My experiences with TYC parts in general have been very positive.
Missed the brand earlier but I agree. I use TYC cabin filters, etc. and they are pretty great.
I went the cheap route and ordered the $80 starter. Hopefully it will last. Thanks for the input.

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My starter is likely going bad also, only 85k on car. I was at the dealership yesterday getting the driveshaft recall done and mentioned the starting issue and they quoted me $1198.21!!! Of course they could not replicate the problem, it happened when again at home after I looked at the new driveshaft.

My 2 cents, after looking into what is involved, is it worth going with the lowest price starter?

Has anyone found a better source for the intake gaskets? eBay has some at $21 each, and others at $40+ Which adds up for 8!
I saw them pictured on EdBwoy’s video, and they don’t look like anything special? (Worth 40]

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Boatfixer27 wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:49 am
My starter is likely going bad also, only 85k on car. I was at the dealership yesterday getting the driveshaft recall done and mentioned the starting issue and they quoted me $1198.21!!! Of course they could not replicate the problem, it happened when again at home after I looked at the new driveshaft.

My 2 cents, after looking into what is involved, is it worth going with the lowest price starter?

Has anyone found a better source for the intake gaskets? eBay has some at $21 each, and others at $40+ Which adds up for 8!
I saw them pictured on EdBwoy’s video, and they don’t look like anything special? (Worth 40]
I got my starter for $90 including shipping and the gaskets for $50. I also bought the gaskets on both sides of the throttle body as well.
Those were $16 for 2 and $5 for the other 2. So not bad compared to $1100 is ridiculous.
Got'em from Infinitipartsdeal.com I buy all my parts from them for years except the starter which was cheaper at Rockauto. GL

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What symptoms made you want to change the starter motor? How do you diagnose starter problems?

My m56 has intermittent starting problems, but they mostly seem more like battery drain, since the car starts fine if I keep a charger plugged in. On errands, I'm scared that it won't start. Often takes 6+ attempts. We always carry a spare battery charger now.

How hard is it to change a starter motor on M56? I've done it on older cars, but I think this v8 needs its heads pulled for this job? I'm an average DIY car fixer. Is it doable?

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ibc wrote:
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What symptoms made you want to change the starter motor? How do you diagnose starter problems?

My m56 has intermittent starting problems, but they mostly seem more like battery drain, since the car starts fine if I keep a charger plugged in. On errands, I'm scared that it won't start. Often takes 6+ attempts. We always carry a spare battery charger now.

How hard is it to change a starter motor on M56? I've done it on older cars, but I think this v8 needs its heads pulled for this job? I'm an average DIY car fixer. Is it doable?

So I my issue was similar to yours initially. Would not start some time, maybe took 8 times. Then it got significantly worse as it would not start unless I jumped it every single time. That got old really quick. I went to two auto parts store, Auto Zone and O' Reilly's and both were able to check battery and starter with the handle held device. Both said battery was fine starter was the issue.
So I researched and found Rockauto to be the cheapest. As you already read how much paid for it. The started is located under the intake manifold towards back middle next to the firewall. The screws face the firewall thus they are a b**** to remove as there is barely any space between the head of the screw and firewall. Plus they are torqued. I had to improvise with a metal pipe over the handle of a ratchet to loosen them. In the end had to hand loosen them to remove the two screws.
Not to mention to get to the starter you have to remove the throttle body along with some hoses, cables and grommets holding those cables and screws. Took me and my buddy about 4 hours.
I bought all new gaskets as well.
My local dealership charger about $500 labor to replace it. It's doable but you have to be patient and make sure you put everything back and watchout for those screws. Had some extras in the end which ended up behind the manifold to a piece that held the grommets down.
Now starts everytime no issues. However the start sound is a bit different than what the Nissan OEM sounded like but the price difference was my deciding factor.

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RockAuto has been my go-to parts store for a long time, tho' for mostly Ford parts. I'm a fan.

I just ordered the PureEnergy starter motor from RockAuto, so it's going in soon. Shame that RockAuto doesn't sell any Intake Manifold Gaskets for M56. So I hunted online and found the intake manifold gasket P/N seems to be A4035-1MC0A. Is that correct? Problem is, that same P/N also leads to very different looking gasket(s), too. Oops! I hate misinformation. Mostly, photos of these gasket(s) are just absent. Grr.

Do I need a 1-piece long-ish gasket or do I need 8 separate round gaskets? EdBwoy's flashes a set of 8 round-ish looking gaskets in his teaser YT video "Infiniti M56 Click-no-Start Issue. Pt2 - The Solution" at 7:45). But since there's no P/N and no M56 starter install video, I can't tell. If A4035-1MC0A is correct, do I need 1 or 2 or 8 of them? Can y'all confirm, please?

An M56 starter motor install video would be SO VERY handy.

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Says "multiple supersession" in InfinitiPartsDeal, which means there's a bunch of different part numbers that will fit in the same hole. IPD won't provide you the supersession chain, but a dealer can. If you get it at a dealer, he'll typically obtain the latest version and not your original p/n.

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ibc wrote:
Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:37 pm
...If A4035-1MC0A is correct, do I need 1 or 2 or 8 of them? Can y'all confirm, please?

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The numbers can be quite confusing.

When I bought mine, I ordered part # A4035-1MC0A and the kit came with 8 gaskets. It costs in the neighborhood of $40.

It replaced the old part number 14035-1MC0A and if you entered this old number, most search results will return A40351MC0A instead. I know that infinitipartsdeal confusingly lists 140351MC0A as a single gasket, costing $6.25

Apparently you can also buy all 8 in one kit as part # A4035-1CA0A, but that costs around $110.

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If I were in your position, I'd just order a single unit of A4035-1MC0A and you should be fine. These days I buy most of my items from Infiniti of Orland Parks.

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Local Infiniti dealership parts guy told me the all-in-one-piece online photo was wrong and that the superceding new part # (A4035-1MC0A) was a $50 kit of 8 gaskets, whereas P/N 14035-1MC0A was just 1 gasket for a single cylinder. Also, the throttle body gasket was $6 for P/N 16175-1CA0A. See photo

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Video of installing a similar QX56/QX80 starter motor is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2eTjpbbZ7w

and here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H0KDRrOQ_0

and here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyPkKoWH2u4

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It took 7 hrs to install the new starter motor. What an ordeal. The biggest issue was trying (in vain) to remove the big electric wire harness that goes over the top back of the intake manifold (IM). Turns out you can't remove it, or even disconnect it. Instead, just unclip its smaller wire looms on both sides of the manifold, esp the driver side, and raise up the whole big wire harness and slide out the IM from underneath it. The last 2 steps before IM removal was to reach around back to remove the brake-booster air hose and remove a bracket bolt from the back end of the IM. From there on, it was pretty easy, overall. Afterwards, it started up strongly, every time. Yay! Total parts cost was $240.

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EdBwoy wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:40 pm
ibc wrote:
Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:37 pm
...If A4035-1MC0A is correct, do I need 1 or 2 or 8 of them? Can y'all confirm, please?

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The numbers can be quite confusing.

When I bought mine, I ordered part # A4035-1MC0A and the kit came with 8 gaskets. It costs in the neighborhood of $40.

It replaced the old part number 14035-1MC0A and if you entered this old number, most search results will return A40351MC0A instead. I know that infinitipartsdeal confusingly lists 140351MC0A as a single gasket, costing $6.25

Apparently you can also buy all 8 in one kit as part # A4035-1CA0A, but that costs around $110.

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If I were in your position, I'd just order a single unit of A4035-1MC0A and you should be fine. These days I buy most of my items from Infiniti of Orland Parks.
Hello maybe you can help me. I replaced the starter in my m56 and now car starts perfectly, but It threw two codes immediately. P0031 and p1148.

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mr56 wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:04 pm
EdBwoy wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:40 pm


The numbers can be quite confusing.

When I bought mine, I ordered part # A4035-1MC0A and the kit came with 8 gaskets. It costs in the neighborhood of $40.

It replaced the old part number 14035-1MC0A and if you entered this old number, most search results will return A40351MC0A instead. I know that infinitipartsdeal confusingly lists 140351MC0A as a single gasket, costing $6.25

Apparently you can also buy all 8 in one kit as part # A4035-1CA0A, but that costs around $110.

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If I were in your position, I'd just order a single unit of A4035-1MC0A and you should be fine. These days I buy most of my items from Infiniti of Orland Parks.
Hello maybe you can help me. I replaced the starter in my m56 and now car starts perfectly, but It threw two codes immediately. P0031 and p1148.
Can't imagine a starter replacement has much to do with the emissions/O2 circuit...how many miles on your car? Might just be a crazy coincidence.

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mr56 wrote:
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Hello maybe you can help me. I replaced the starter in my m56 and now car starts perfectly, but It threw two codes immediately. P0031 and p1148.
I would check the electrical connection for the A/F sensor wire, assuming you disconnected that while trying to get the wiring harness off the intake manifold.
Sometimes, the connection can "feel tight" without really being secure. Push it until it clicks

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Anyone regret going aftermarket instead of OEM at this point for the starter on a '13 M56? I don't mind paying OEM prices in general, but this seems like one of those cases where aftermarket TYC, Pure Energy, etc just makes more financial sense?

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I used this one and have no regrets. Much cheaper than OEM.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079W ... slink=true

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madmanpauly wrote:
Fri Sep 29, 2023 7:21 am
I used this one and have no regrets. Much cheaper than OEM.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079W ... slink=true
i bought that same one also. still starts strong after 2 years. The price goes up and down. It was around $80 a few months ago.

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I have often bought from RockAuto in the past.
2 years ago I got some moogs springs for my pathy one of which had some paint already peeling.
But thats ot the fault of the vendor but the brand.

On Rockauto for most parts types they seem to have quality tiers.
In the past they called them "Economy" and "Daily Driver" not sure if thats still the case.
I generally pick a mid pack priced one from the "Daily Driver" tier, or better yet whatever is recommeneded here on the forums.

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Awesome, thanks to all for the feedback.

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After 2 yrs, the PureEnergy starter motor from RockAuto is still going strong! It always starts the M56 on my first button push, every time. This new starter motor has transformed my ride into a 100% reliable car. We no longer get stranded, and we lost all fear of that. So happy. Edit: also we no longer need to use any trickle charger to keep the battery at full strength.


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