M56 Interior & Exterior LED Lighting Overhaul

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Hey, I updated the first image in your first post with the one you made later one.

That being said, what are the rear dome lights? Also 194? I need to buy 2 for the front, but need to confirm the back before I place my order.

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Yep, 194's

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Everything in the interior is 194 except for the front dome light. The trunk is also a 194 and one will fit with the cover installed.

The license plate lights are 194's also but the 5smd wedge type bulb will not fit as the bulb itself is too tall to fit the cover over it. I ended up ordering a flat style 194 linked below. Hopefully that will fit with the covers in place.
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The front dome light is 175 which can use a 194 light since it's the same family (if you search 178 on vleds site they come back with results for 194s). Just confirming...lol.

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You mean the back domes Ilya..not front

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SwissCheeseHead wrote:The license plate lights are 194's also but the 5smd wedge type bulb will not fit as the bulb itself is too tall to fit the cover over it. I ended up ordering a flat style 194 ...
My 5-SMD's fit in the License Plate housing. It is tight but the cover will go on and seal. I can definitly see people being unconfortable with the tight fit though. Me not so much, I make things fit. :biggrin:
IlyaKol wrote:The front dome light is 175 which can use a 194 light since it's the same family (if you search 178 on vleds site they come back with results for 194s). Just confirming...lol.
Osram Sylvania lists the "Dome Light" as a #175. This is why on my first list I had it listed as a #175 too. But this is only for the rear Dome/Reading lights as DoN_BLaZe34 pointed out to me (and then you :) ). I fixed it be the front dome on my chart but did not list the rears. Osram Sylvania does list the front Dome Light bulb at all.

And yes, the #194 will work in place of the #175 for the rear Dome / Reading lights.

Fronts are BA9s.

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Oh okay, that's why it pays to confirm lol.

Damn, I could have reused the fronts from the other car (which I left in there).

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IlyaKol wrote:Oh okay, that's why it pays to confirm lol.

Damn, I could have reused the fronts from the other car (which I left in there).
Oh now that sucks. :frown: At least its just 2 bulbs.

In other news... New chart time! I put the rear Dome / Reading bulbs, Footwell lenses, added "29mm" to Vanity lights, Glove Box bulb, and maybe some other stuff.

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I'll update the first post. I like you man, you're a lot like me (organized with excel tables/spreadsheets, etc.). I'm going to be adding a ton of HowTo's over the next few weeks as I bring this car up to snuff maintenance wise (oil, filters, spark plugs, etc.).

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IlyaKol wrote:I'll update the first post.
Thank you! :dblthumb:

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BTW, the little marker bulbs in the headlights were a F'IN PAIN IN THE REAR END. Took me an hour between both sides. How do they expect you to twist that holder if you can't access it with your fingers? I had to jam a set of pliers in there and grab hold and twist...surprised I didn't break the bulb off inside the headlight.

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LOL!! To understand, one has to take into consideration the stature of the personnel at origin of assembly. :chuckle:

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Must be children, no way any adult human has hands that small lol. I got it, but I'm hoping those things NEVER burn out lol. :rotflmao

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IlyaKol wrote:I like you man, you're a lot like me (organized with excel tables/spreadsheets, etc.). I'm going to be adding a ton of HowTo's over the next few weeks as I bring this car up to snuff maintenance wise (oil, filters, spark plugs, etc.).
Haha, yeah that's me. My daily job involves information processing and knowledge base management. The work habits spill over into everything else.

My main motivation here is the fact that there is not comprehensive list of bulb applications for the 11-13 M series. The owners manual is extremely lacking and the usually reliable Osram Sylvania is also missing a bunch of bulb applications.

I'm glad the chart has been, or at least seems to have been, helpful to others. And I look forward to seeing your DIY's. I'll definitely document any other jobs or mods I take on with my M as well.

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Yeah, man definitely helpfu for mel. I love the visuals.
It sucks that not even the manual has all the bulbs listed.

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Hey, need some help.

I went to install the footwell lights and I must have burnt a fuse somewhere. The interior lights still work when I manually click the front dome lights, but they don't turn on when the door opens. Same for the footwell lights. The door ones still work though when the door opens.

I checked every fuse I can think of to no avail. Didn't see any bad ones.

The footwell lights were light seized in their holders...I used needle nose pliers and completely shattered the passenger side one and the driver side one as I pulled it out that's when I think everything went nuts.

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Anyone? Really want/need this fixed. Any ideas what fuse controls ONLY the overhead interior lights but not the door lights? Also, if it's a fuse, how come I can turn the overhead lights on manually?

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IlyaKol wrote:Hey, need some help.

I went to install the footwell lights and I must have burnt a fuse somewhere. The interior lights still work when I manually click the front dome lights, but they don't turn on when the door opens. Same for the footwell lights. The door ones still work though when the door opens.

I checked every fuse I can think of to no avail. Didn't see any bad ones.

The footwell lights were light seized in their holders...I used needle nose pliers and completely shattered the passenger side one and the driver side one as I pulled it out that's when I think everything went nuts.
Hey IlyaKol,

Did you make any progress with this issue? Definitely sounds like a fuse issue.

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IlyaKol wrote:Anyone? Really want/need this fixed. Any ideas what fuse controls ONLY the overhead interior lights but not the door lights? Also, if it's a fuse, how come I can turn the overhead lights on manually?
Looks like you posted the answer to my question at the same time I asked it. Let me login to my work laptop and see what info I can find for you.

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I must've touched the pliers on the connectors or something and shorted something somewhere. But I can't find the fuse. Thanks man.

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IlyaKol wrote:I must've touched the pliers on the connectors or something and shorted something somewhere. But I can't find the fuse. Thanks man.
Well i could not find a fuse block map for this car. Weird. So I looked up the wiring schematic for it. It only shows the BCM fuse. You might need to check the wiring going to the foot-well lights, and the sockets themselves. If the door puddle light still turns on and off based on the doors-witch then the switch is still working which is a good thing. And if the BCM was shot I think you would have a lot more issues. I hope the solution turn out to be a quick and easy one for you. :frown:

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I'm just shocked how stuck the stock bulbs were. Nothing could get them out.

I'm VERY bad with electrical as far as tracking down issues in a circuit, so this may have to go to the dealer. Don't even know where to begin, even with a schematic.

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I had to use the flat end of one of my nylon trim tools to get some of the bulbs out too. I used the tool to like a pry bar under one side of the bulb and worked it slowly until it popped out. Then I had to grab it and toss it out of the car since it was hot. The bulbs on this car seem to not only stick but also sit low inside some of the housings relative to other vehicles I have worked on which makes them harder to get a grip on.

Bummer you ran into this issue though. I looked some more into the factory information this morning and found this chart which seems to confirm that there is no individual fuse for the lights so the issue should theoretically be in the wiring between the lights and the BCM, or the BCM itself. :frown:

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Luckily, BCM's are relatively cheap. Just need to make sure I get the right part number for this car so I'll have to call the dealer.

I'm thinking it's the BCM and not the wiring because, other than the footwells, the other lamps turn on manually.

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From what I see on this BCM the factory tool might be needed to read the programming from the old BCM and then write it to the new one. Keep us posted.

ADDITIONAL SERVICE WHEN REPLACING CONTROL UNIT (BCM): Description

BEFORE REPLACEMENT

When replacing BCM, save or print current vehicle specification with CONSULT configuration before replacement.

NOTE: If "READ CONFIGURATION" can not be used, use the "WRITE CONFIGURATION - Manual selection" after replacing BCM.

AFTER REPLACEMENT

CAUTION: When replacing BCM, always perform "WRITE CONFIGURATION" with CONSULT. Or not doing so, BCM control function does not operate normally.
Complete the procedure of "WRITE CONFIGURATION" in order.
Configuration is different for each vehicle model. Confirm configuration of each vehicle model.
If you set incorrect "WRITE CONFIGURATION", incidents might occur.

NOTE: When replacing BCM, perform the system initialization (NATS) (if equipped).

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Debonair wrote:From what I see on this BCM the factory tool might be needed to read the programming from the old BCM and then write it to the new one. Keep us posted.

ADDITIONAL SERVICE WHEN REPLACING CONTROL UNIT (BCM): Description

BEFORE REPLACEMENT

When replacing BCM, save or print current vehicle specification with CONSULT configuration before replacement.

NOTE: If "READ CONFIGURATION" can not be used, use the "WRITE CONFIGURATION - Manual selection" after replacing BCM.

AFTER REPLACEMENT

CAUTION: When replacing BCM, always perform "WRITE CONFIGURATION" with CONSULT. Or not doing so, BCM control function does not operate normally.
Complete the procedure of "WRITE CONFIGURATION" in order.
Configuration is different for each vehicle model. Confirm configuration of each vehicle model.
If you set incorrect "WRITE CONFIGURATION", incidents might occur.

NOTE: When replacing BCM, perform the system initialization (NATS) (if equipped).
Ahh damn, that makes it so I have to go to the dealer. F me. Maybe I'll go buy a consult lol...three Nissan's in the family (2002 Altima, 2011 M56, and 2014 Pathfinder).

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Quick Update: A second single SMD on another 5-SMD 194 bulbs used for the license plate started to blink while the other 4 remained on without issue. Everywhere else I have used my cheap eBay 5-SMD 194's they are working fine. I think they don't like to be on for long periods of time like they are in the License Plate position.

I'm off to shop for a different LP solution. :crazy:

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Appreciate the update. I will keep an eye on my girlfriend's license plate bulbs.

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I have all of the lights for the interior and have the puddle, dome, etc... all in.. Love it. My 2 questions I'm stuck on... What exact bulb do I need for the glove box.... and 2... how do I get the stinking covers off the back reading lights. I am having a helluva time getting to them. Thanks so much for this thread!!!

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withomps44 wrote:I have all of the lights for the interior and have the puddle, dome, etc... all in.. Love it. My 2 questions I'm stuck on... What exact bulb do I need for the glove box.... and 2... how do I get the stinking covers off the back reading lights. I am having a helluva time getting to them. Thanks so much for this thread!!!
Glovebox is a number 74 as shown in the chart above. Check eBay or Google LED number 74 for your options.

Rear reading lamp lenses popped off if I remember correctly. The first one I tried I actually pulled the whole housing out. Don't do that. :rotfl just get at the lens only, it will come out.


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